FootballGuy Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Chandler 44 Valdosta 24 I watched this game more than once and this is what I noticed: 1. Valdosta's QB and receivers were not on the same page for a good majority of the game 2. Valdosta literally spotted Chandler 22 points. FACT 3. I gave chandler props for capitalizing on those turnovers 4. I like Valdosta, but I wasn't a fan of their offense in this game. They abandoned the run game, and they really messed up by not playing #17 more. 5. No shade, but I wasn't impressed with Chandler. they have some athletes and definitely "out athleted" valdosta....especially on offense. Now consider this: if Valdosta doesn't turn the ball over 3 times, Chandler only scored 21 points to Valdosta's 24. But i am aware that it didn't pan out like that. So for some of y'all to say that Valdosta didn't belong on the same field as Chandler or Valdosta is sorry, and blah blah blah..... That's a bit of a reach. Let's try not to be subjective about this. Give me responses that aren't motivated by personal feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Man, Chandler went ham on Valdosta and embarrassed them with crazy trick plays etc. Chandler was just toying around and having fun with them by the end of the game. I like Valdosta except for the games they play against Colquitt I'm pulling for them for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Man, Chandler went ham on Valdosta and embarrassed them with crazy trick plays etc. Chandler was just toying around and having fun with them by the end of the game. I like Valdosta except for the games they play against Colquitt I'm pulling for them for sure. I mean, tell me if i'm wrong, but when you turn the ball over 3 times and give the other team good field position, and you only score 22 points outside of the turnovers, did you really do anything? just like colquitt vs grayson, how many times did colquitt turn the ball over against grayson? do you think the game is closer if colquitt doesn't commit turnover(s)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 30 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: I mean, tell me if i'm wrong, but when you turn the ball over 3 times and give the other team good field position, and you only score 22 points outside of the turnovers, did you really do anything? just like colquitt vs grayson, how many times did colquitt turn the ball over against grayson? do you think the game is closer if colquitt doesn't commit turnover(s)? I do think that turnovers change the game. Yet, turnovers are part of the game. I don't think we can fairly diminish one teams accomplishments by discounting them as if it was all the team's fault that turned the ball over. We have to give some of the credit to the other team for either creating and taking advantage of, or at the minimum capitalizing on the turnovers, whether solely self inflicted or forced. Where the turnovers are happening has a huge role as well, but again we have to look at that through the same prism as above. Also, it can be said that the turnovers and subsequent scores takes a little of the heart out of the team losing the ball. It's tough to overcome that adversity. Especially tough against top teams, where every mistake seems to be magnified. In the end, I was proud of Valdosta for taking the game. I do wish they hadn't turned the ball over, and I even more wish they could have covered that crazy good receiver for Chandler. If they could have controlled him better, it's a different game as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I'll expand on my last post by getting a Colquitt vs. Valdosta plug in there. I felt the same way as I watched the Colquitt @ Valdosta game live from the stands this season. The interception and return for a td by Shamburger. That was a point in the game where I just saw the magic kind of drain right out of the Valdosta players. Their demeanor changed after that. As a fan, it sucks when your team turns the ball over. Especially when they don't have the horses to overcome the mistakes. It just is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 GA fellers mistake is assuming that Chandler wouldn't have stopped Valcross anyway on those 3 possessions and scored as well.It was a mismatch and any attempt to say other wise is nothing but delusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 40 minutes ago, Ararar said: GA fellers mistake is assuming that Chandler wouldn't have stopped Valcross anyway on those 3 possessions and scored as well.It was a mismatch and any attempt to say other wise is nothing but delusion And where are you from? Cali? Chandler defense isn't good. Don't be a prisoner of the moment Bottom line is this: don't let Valdosta's performance against Chandler fool you into thinking they were some scrub team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 55 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: I do think that turnovers change the game. Yet, turnovers are part of the game. I don't think we can fairly diminish one teams accomplishments by discounting them as if it was all the team's fault that turned the ball over. We have to give some of the credit to the other team for either creating and taking advantage of, or at the minimum capitalizing on the turnovers, whether solely self inflicted or forced. Where the turnovers are happening has a huge role as well, but again we have to look at that through the same prism as above. Also, it can be said that the turnovers and subsequent scores takes a little of the heart out of the team losing the ball. It's tough to overcome that adversity. Especially tough against top teams, where every mistake seems to be magnified. In the end, I was proud of Valdosta for taking the game. I do wish they hadn't turned the ball over, and I even more wish they could have covered that crazy good receiver for Chandler. If they could have controlled him better, it's a different game as well. I wonder what people would have said about Valdosta if they beat Chandler.... And valdosta's DBs were just too small to cover their big receivers. I do hate that Grayson turned the game down because it really woulda been a more entertaining game. D1 athletes all over the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Colquitt blew the doors off of Valdosta the same way Chandler did. The only thing that Chandler/Valdosta proved is the best team from Arizona was better than the 6-8th best team in Georgia in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Colquitt blew the doors off of Valdosta the same way Chandler did. The only thing that Chandler/Valdosta proved is the best team from Arizona was better than the 6-8th best team in Georgia in 2016. Saguaro is the best team in AZ not Chandler. And who is your team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Saguaro is the best team in AZ not Chandler. And who is your team? Saguaro is/was not the best team in Az this year. Chandler was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Saguaro is the best team in AZ not Chandler. And who is your team? My team is any Florida team who wins oos games. The rest can take a long walk off a short pier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, aZjimbo said: Saguaro is/was not the best team in Az this year. Chandler was. Saguaro is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: My team is any Florida team who wins oos games. The rest can take a long walk off a short pier any florida team? Lol. You got it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloryDays Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 That's a pretty salty ass OP up in hurr. Valdosta forgot their wood screws and got their doors blown. It happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 38 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Saguaro is the best team in AZ not Chandler. And who is your team? My alma mater (Wharton) isn't a good football school. Locally I just go attend the games with Plant, Armwood, Hillsborough, Jefferson etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 1 hour ago, FootballGuy said: And where are you from? Cali? Chandler defense isn't good. Don't be a prisoner of the moment Bottom line is this: don't let Valdosta's performance against Chandler fool you into thinking they were some scrub team Who said they were scrub? GA has now become the state of excuses.GA 2nd tier teams are just like every other big state 2nd tier teams you fellers just can't accept that for some strange reason.Ya'll should have just let it die but now Ga is famous getting ValCrossed in big games 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connman Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: Man, Chandler went ham on Valdosta and embarrassed them with crazy trick plays etc. Chandler was just toying around and having fun with them by the end of the game. I like Valdosta except for the games they play against Colquitt I'm pulling for them for sure. Hawg can't you combine this thread where it belongs in the "big black eye for Georgia" thread? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted February 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 43 minutes ago, Ararar said: Who said they were scrub? GA has now become the state of excuses.GA 2nd tier teams are just like every other big state 2nd tier teams you fellers just can't accept that for some strange reason.Ya'll should have just let it die but now Ga is famous getting ValCrossed in big games okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 While searching through Records I found out that Valdosta actually played Montgomery Bell Academy (TN) back in the late 50s... Valdosta blanked them 31-0 in a post season bowl game.... Maryville(TN) is 0-2 vs GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 hours ago, FootballGuy said: Saguaro is better Saguaro was worse than Chandler, Mountain Pointe, Williams Field, and Centennial this year. Historically their on-the-field results (not mythical rankings that are hyper-obsessed with offer sheets or computer rankings that claim to have everything figured out in a nice, neat equation) says they are at best the fifth-best team in Arizona in any given year. The two best teams they played were Serra and Valor teams that offered little depth from a size and experience perspective. The only team in Chandler's region that would not have out-classed those same teams was 3-7 Basha, and they'd have still put 30+ on both teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Wooderson said: Saguaro was worse than Chandler, Mountain Pointe, Williams Field, and Centennial this year. Historically their on-the-field results (not mythical rankings that are hyper-obsessed with offer sheets or computer rankings that claim to have everything figured out in a nice, neat equation) says they are at best the fifth-best team in Arizona in any given year. The two best teams they played were Serra and Valor teams that offered little depth from a size and experience perspective. The only team in Chandler's region that would not have out-classed those same teams was 3-7 Basha, and they'd have still put 30+ on both teams. make sure Im grasping this right... you're saying.... a 3-7 AZ team is on par Serra and Valor Christian...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloryDays Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: make sure Im grasping this right... you're saying.... a 3-7 AZ team is on par Serra and Valor Christian...? Pretty much. We're officially in the offseason doldrums bout now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: make sure Im grasping this right... you're saying.... a 3-7 AZ team is on par Serra and Valor Christian...? Not at all...those teams would beat Basha decisively as Basha is about as defensively-deficient as you'll find. Offensively they are a different story though-four-star prospect at quarterback, 6-4 all-state receiver bound for the Big Sky conference, starting tackle bound for Wazzu. Basha would lose by 21+ but it would be 56-35 ball game. Also worth noting that four of Basha's losses came to 6A state semifinalists, including two to Chandler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 5 hours ago, FootballGuy said: Chandler 44 Valdosta 24 I watched this game more than once and this is what I noticed: 1. Valdosta's QB and receivers were not on the same page for a good majority of the game 2. Valdosta literally spotted Chandler 22 points. FACT 3. I gave chandler props for capitalizing on those turnovers 4. I like Valdosta, but I wasn't a fan of their offense in this game. They abandoned the run game, and they really messed up by not playing #17 more. 5. No shade, but I wasn't impressed with Chandler. they have some athletes and definitely "out athleted" valdosta....especially on offense. Now consider this: if Valdosta doesn't turn the ball over 3 times, Chandler only scored 21 points to Valdosta's 24. But i am aware that it didn't pan out like that. So for some of y'all to say that Valdosta didn't belong on the same field as Chandler or Valdosta is sorry, and blah blah blah..... That's a bit of a reach. Let's try not to be subjective about this. Give me responses that aren't motivated by personal feelings. ECHS bro this makes 3 accounts for u now. Smh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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