Sammyswordsman Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 For the 2018 season we will begin rolling out our Tiers with in Ascending order. We will begin with Tier 6 on Friday Aug. 10. Tier 6 - Aug 10 Tier 5 - Aug 18 Tier 4 - Aug 19 Tier 3 - Aug 25 Tier 2 - Aug 26 Tier 1 - Sept 1 If anyone wants to participate in the annual "Predict the Tiers" contest, the floor is open. Simply correctly guess one team that will be on each Tier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 I assume you will stick by your word when you made this statement and place Columbia into tier 6 On 8/7/2018 at 2:31 PM, Sammyswordsman said: Tier 1 vs. Tier 6. Needlessly endangering the physical health and safety of children is not something that should be condoned or applauded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Colquitt is a Tier 3 team. Lowndes is a Tier 2 team. Grayson is a Tier 1 1/2 team. Rufus>> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbatt Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 All Top Illinois teams are Tier 1......IT`s obvious !!!!!! After that, I`ll let you experts take over...... Sincerely, abbatt !!!!!!! 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, BraceFace69 said: Folsom/MD/SJB - Tier 1 Cen10/DLS -Tier 2 Going into season I’d put Folsom and DLS in the same tier 2 below teams like MD, Bosco, IMG, Grayson, Allen, St Johns. The winner of Folsom/DLS, especially if impressive, could perhaps move to tier 1 afterwards. As for Cen10 fortunately we will learn a lot about them from the Chandler game. If Logan can work his magic with the QB position watch out for them since they have a better defense this year and are loaded as usual at RB and receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, BraceFace69 said: Folsom/MD/SJB - Tier 1 Cen10/DLS -Tier 2 Did you just compare Folsom to MD and Bosco lmao straight Coke Head 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbatt Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 But seriously, At this time ,I`m not sure if I would consider any Illinois team. Without any pre-season scrimmages allowed against other teams I will with-hold any recommendations until about mid-season. From other Midwest states I can see Indy Warren Central and several Ohio teams about tier 4-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, abbatt said: But seriously, At this time ,I`m not sure if I would consider any Illinois team. Without any pre-season scrimmages allowed against other teams I will with-hold any recommendations until about mid-season. From other Midwest states I can see Indy Warren Central and several Ohio teams about tier 4-5. Does Illinois play OOS games if not why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: Going into season I’d put Folsom and DLS in the same tier 2 below teams like MD, Bosco, IMG, Grayson, Allen, St Johns. The winner of Folsom/DLS, especially if impressive, could perhaps move to tier 1 afterwards. As for Cen10 fortunately we will learn a lot about them from the Chandler game. If Logan can work his magic with the QB position watch out for them since they have a better defense this year and are loaded as usual at RB and receiver. I totally agree with is that Cen10 could be a handful for anyone, as you said, if Logan does his thing. Their defense, I think for the first time in forever, appears to be their strong point. Lots of big time talent on that side of the ball. Can’t wait to see the Pitt/Cen10 game. Might have to fly down for that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, LiberalDonaldTrump said: Did you just compare Folsom to MD and Bosco lmao straight Coke Head He’s being facetious. He has been battling with numbnuts for weeks now. It’s a dig on a Folsom. ....haha it’d better be!🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: I've tried many times to get Loyola Academy to venture East. No dice. How difficult is it to travel compared to traveling to and from Moultrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbatt Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Yes...Illinois has a number of good OOS match-ups..reference the 20018 OOS thread. Without any pre-season scrimmages allowed against other teams ,the first several games are the scrimmages ..learning as the games progress where the kinks are. So...it does take a while for the top teams to hit their stride. By mid-season they are more in the groove and it`s then more accurate to evaluate and assess strengths and weakness. As for Loyola playing East... I would like to see them establish a stronger footprint in the Midwest first. Loyola reached out to at least a dozen teams in Mi,Wi andMO and were turned down until Rockford MI accepted. I think a game between say the top public in New Jersey or the top Catholic in New York would be a good start. or one of the top Catholics from PA...Archbishop Woods or St.Joes. 4 years ago Chicago Mt.Carmel out-played but lost a 28-27 heart-breaker to St.Joes and last year Loyola beat Bishop Amat 13-6 minus 7 starters....so I know that that can compete. Let`s see how Illinois does in their OOS games this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said: Does anyone really give a shit after Tier 4? The people in Tier 5 and Tier 6 durn sure do !!!!!!! Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Let's begin by taking a brief look back at the 2017 FINAL Tier Placements Posted December 24, 2017 Tier 1 - Mater Dei, IMG, SFA, Tier 2 - SJB, Allen, Chandler, Ben Davis, AHP Tier 3 - St. Johns, Bishop Gorman, Lake Travis, Cen10, Cardinal Gibbons, North Gwinett, Collquit County Tier 4 - Trinity KY, Bergen Catholic, DLS, St. iggy, Northwestern Fla, St. Louis Hi., Bingham, Trottwood Madison, Pickerington Central, Venice, Central, Grayson, Archer, Rome, Mission Viejo, Katy Tier 5 - Servite, OLU, Chaminade, JSerra, Tift, Santa Margarita, St. Eds, Union OK, Poly, South Pointe, SJP, STA, East UT, St. X, Manvel Tx. Colerain, Walton, Lowndes, Mentor Tier 6 - Folsom, 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said: Does anyone really give a shit after Tier 4? People that want to know teams more than the same 10 teams talked about on this board certainly do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Folsom by 17! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Below is an explanation of the Methodolgy used to place the teams on various Tiers. The Tier concept recognizes that W/L records are a function of quality of opponent, and as such, RELEVANCY of opponent MUST be factored in. The Tiers recognizes that in some cases, a 10-0 team (ranked in Top 100 by some outlets) could get blown off the field by a 5-5 (unranked) team that played a tougher schedule. This is why the Tiers was created. *Not attempting to rank every team, only the ones we discuss on this site. *Tier placements consider a teams entire body of work, however are weighted heaviest on recent games and game weights decrease in significance in reverse order. In other words, early road OOS losses to relevant teams can be overcome as the season progresses. *Teams placed on the same Tier can compete with other same Tier teams and possibly win 2+ of 10. *Basically there is a -10 point drop between tiers. Could vary from 7 to 21 depending on the styles of teams playing. This does not necessarily mean that there is a 30 point difference between Tier 1 and Tier 3, only that the chances of a Tier 3 team beating a Tier 1 team are exponentially less than the chances of a Tier 2 Team beating a Tier 1 team *Texas teams generally have not played enough OOS games to gauge properly #crapshoot. There must be a daisy chain OOS connection for a reference point. Teams with no OOS daisy chain connection may not be placed on a Tier. (Texas exempt) *Tiers are based on exhaustive research, Multiple games watched, and good gut feelings. *This is a crowd sourced rating. All input will be considered and adjustments will be made as appropriate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Anyone know what tier Servite is? They seem mysteriously missing from this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: For the 2018 season we will begin rolling out our Tiers with in Ascending order. We will begin with Tier 6 on Friday Aug. 10. Tier 6 - Aug 10 Tier 5 - Aug 18 Tier 4 - Aug 19 Tier 3 - Aug 25 Tier 2 - Aug 26 Tier 1 - Sept 6 If anyone wants to participate in the annual "Predict the Tiers" contest, the floor is open. Simply correctly guess one team that will be on each Tier. Tier 1, number 1..... Servite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: Folsom by 17! DLS runnng clock on Folsom by 4th! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Let's begin by taking a brief look back at the 2017 FINAL Tier Placements Posted December 24, 2017 Tier 1 - Mater Dei, IMG, SFA, Tier 2 - SJB, Allen, Chandler, Ben Davis, AHP Tier 3 - St. Johns, Bishop Gorman, Lake Travis, Cen10, Cardinal Gibbons, North Gwinett, Collquit County Tier 4 - Trinity KY, Bergen Catholic, DLS, St. iggy, Northwestern Fla, St. Louis Hi., Bingham, Trottwood Madison, Pickerington Central, Venice, Central, Grayson, Archer, Rome, Mission Viejo, Katy Tier 5 - Servite, OLU, Chaminade, JSerra, Tift, Santa Margarita, St. Eds, Union OK, Poly, South Pointe, SJP, STA, East UT, St. X, Manvel Tx. Colerain, Walton, Lowndes, Mentor Tier 6 - Folsom, Good batch of cannabis in December obviously. BGW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, LiberalDonaldTrump said: Did you just compare Folsom to MD and Bosco lmao straight Coke Head Bold statement, can braces afford it? AKA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospeeder Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 5 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: I've tried many times to get Loyola Academy to venture East. No dice. I think that will eventually happen in a couple of years.... just not sure how far east. Of more interest is seeing Kimberly venture out of state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Tier 6 Released Serra - San Mateo Evangel Christian (La) Don Bosco Columbia (FL) Helix Archbishop Wood Servite JSerra Santa Margarita Gonzaga Loyola Academy (IL) John Curtis Archbishop Rummel Lowndes *Not all Tier 6 teams are listed. Only the teams with supporters on this forum. If you have a personal interest in a team (your team) and want to see what level they would compete in, please ask. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbatt Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Sammyswordsman, It`s nice to see an IL team represented in the tiers...hopefully several others will work their way in as the season progresses.This is the first year that I am aware of IL teams playing Canadian teams....Is that good or bad ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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