Sammyswordsman Posted September 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: . Also, SPP and SJP are too low. Should be upgraded. Show me the money. I need an outside point of reference on those two. Recent history (last year) tells a different tale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 Also SJC and Central and STA have a fate which will be determined next Friday when STA plays Central. Not sure this week whether to put SJC and Central both in Tier 2 or Tier 1. Having IMG back out last week, and Hoover also losing, is going to hurt SJC in the Tiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotBigdaddybloom Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Good catch on Bingham. I rushed to release this yesterday afternoon because I am attending a Steeler game party early today. After releasing the Tiers, the Santa Margarita vs. Orem score came in. So Bingham has been moved to Tier 4. Santa Margarita is out of the Tiers. Well I'm attending a Chiefs game party today! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Sammyswordsman said: Also SJC and Central and STA have a fate which will be determined next Friday when STA plays Central. Not sure this week whether to put SJC and Central both in Tier 2 or Tier 1. Having IMG back out last week, and Hoover also losing, is going to hurt SJC in the Tiers. SJC and MC imo are tier 2. I think DLS is tier 3...for now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 hours ago, NotBigdaddybloom said: Well I'm attending a Chiefs game party today! Good game so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas_JC Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Good catch on Bingham. I rushed to release this yesterday afternoon because I am attending a Steeler game party early today. So you are a fan of Steelers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Las Vegas_JC said: So you are a fan of Steelers? My cousin is. I like the Packers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas_JC Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: My cousin is. I like the Packers Your cousin is a good guy! 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 20 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Members 2,185 4,574 posts Report post Posted September 1 Tier 1 - Mater Dei, IMG, STA, SJB, Allen, SJC Tier 2 - Lake Travis, St. Louis, DLS, North shore (tx), SFA, Mentor, Colquitt County, Cen10, Miami Central, Carol City, ULAB Tier 3 - Colerain, Katy, Rome, Milton, Folsom, Bishop Gorman, Centennieal AZ, Archer, Grayson, Arch Bishop Hoban, Deerfield Beach Bergen Catholic, SJP, SPP, Mission Viejo. Pickerington Central, Jokes Christian, JSerra [...] *Basically there is a -10 point drop between tiers. Could vary from 7 to 21 depending on the styles of teams playing. This does not necessarily mean that there is a 30 point difference between Tier 1 and Tier 3, only that the chances of a Tier 3 team beating a Tier 1 team are exponentially less than the chances of a Tier 2 Team beating a Tier 1 team. [...] DLS is tier 3. I hate to repeat myself, but you don't listen too good. What's more, DLS is tier 3 by your own criterion (to the extant that it makes sense as stated), assuming you've got BG in the right tier. DLS just beat BG by 6, which MoV is below your lower limit of 7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 @SammyswordsmanBuford too low IMO. They are at tier 3 IMO. 4 at the very least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Belly Bob said: DLS is tier 3. I hate to repeat myself, but you don't listen too good. What's more, DLS is tier 3 by your own criterion (to the extant that it makes sense as stated), assuming you've got BG in the right tier. DLS just beat BG by 6, which MoV is below your lower limit of 7. The difference is that DLS has a quality win over the devil, and is also 4-0. The Bishop is 1-3 with losses to non Tier 2 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotBigdaddybloom Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 Mahomes! That is all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sammyswordsman Posted September 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, 954gator said: @SammyswordsmanBuford too low IMO. They are at tier 3 IMO. 4 at the very least. You are correct. Buford hung close to Deerfield beach who eeked out a win vs Chaminade by about the same point difference, and Buford appears to be a -7 to -10 against Archer on Friday. Moving Burfod toTier 4 pending the outcome of the Archer game and Deerfield vs. AHP game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: You are correct. Buford hung close to Deerfield beach who eeked out a win vs Chaminade by about the same point difference, and Buford appears to be a -7 to -10 against Archer on Friday. Moving Burfod toTier 4 pending the outcome of the Archer game and Deerfield vs. AHP game You're forgetting Buford's connection to Grayson. Check out Westlake Ga on maxpreps. Buford, at the very least should be on par with Grayson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosinc Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Good catch on Bingham. I rushed to release this yesterday afternoon because I am attending a Steeler game party early today. After releasing the Tiers, the Santa Margarita vs. Orem score came in. So Bingham has been moved to Tier 4. Santa Margarita is out of the Tiers. Well, I went to a birthday party. We had funfetti cake. And ice cream, so there!😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: I like the Packers I knew it! I knew it all along! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: @PrepForce Love this poll. It's the best on a weekly basis. Give me human eye tests over algorithms any day!! http://www.prepforce.com/pf_blog/front-page/prep-force-2018-national-high-school-football-rankings-week-5/ Pretty good poll. My only disagreement is that SPP and SJP are rated as high as they are. Each has only played 2 games, and both are piggybacking off the BC/Grayson game. We also don't know if Grayson is any good either. Grayson beat two local 2-2 teams by a combined 13 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: The difference is that DLS has a quality win over the devil, and is also 4-0. The Bishop is 1-3 with losses to non Tier 2 teams. I must be confused by the criteria then. I was under the impression that teams belonging to the same tier had roughly equal chances of winning if they played each other. BG loses to a tier 1 team, loses by 6 to a tier 3 team, and just lost by 6 to a tier 2 team, yet they are supposed to be 7-21 points worse than a tier 2 team? And DLS beats a tier 3 team by 14 in week 0 and just beat a tier 3 team by 6, but they're supposed to be 7-21 points better than a tier 3 team? That strikes me as a rather puzzling way to go about things, but I'm probably missing something important that is clear in your mind but unclear in your criteria. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Belly Bob said: I must be confused by the criteria then. I was under the impression that teams belonging to the same tier had roughly equal chances of winning if they played each other. BG loses to a tier 1 team, loses by 6 to a tier 3 and by 6 to a tier 2 team, yet they are supposed to be 7-21 points worse than a tier 2 team? - Depends on the Tier 2 team. DLS beat Tier 3 Folsom by 14 which puts them solid in Tier 2. DLS beat BG by a TD And DLS beats a tier 3 team by 14 in week 0 and just beat a tier 3 team by 6, but they're supposed to be 7-21 points better than tier 3 teams? If I changed the metric from 7 points to "a TD" would you be satisfied? That strikes me as a rather puzzling way to go about things, but I'm probably missing something important that is clear in your mind but unclear in your criteria. - The most heavily weighted criteria can be found later down the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 I don't know what criteria you're referring to, but it seems to me that DLS won close games against Folsom and BG. And it seems to me that BG lost close games to Centennial and DLS. So I'd put them all on the same tier, since on the available evidence, they're all about as good as each other. You don't put them on the same tier. So I must be confused about what it is to for two teams to belong to the same tier. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Belly Bob said: I must be confused by the criteria then. I was under the impression that teams belonging to the same tier had roughly equal chances of winning if they played each other. BG loses to a tier 1 team, loses by 6 to a tier 3 team, and just lost by 6 to a tier 2 team, yet they are supposed to be 7-21 points worse than a tier 2 team? And DLS beats a tier 3 team by 14 in week 0 and just beat a tier 3 team by 6, but they're supposed to be 7-21 points better than a tier 3 team? That strikes me as a rather puzzling way to go about things, but I'm probably missing something important that is clear in your mind but unclear in your criteria. Don’t pay attention to sammy’s Math on tiers — it’s wrong and confusing think conceptually 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellback Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 9:56 PM, Sammyswordsman said: Tier 3 - Colerain, Katy, Rome, Milton, Folsom, Bishop Gorman, Centennieal AZ, Archer, Grayson, Arch Bishop Hoban, Deerfield Beach Bergen Catholic, SJP, SPP, Mission Viejo. Pickerington Central, Jokes Christian, JSerra, Tier 4 - Converse Judson Tx, , Katy, OLU, Lincoln Way East (IL), Dematha, Cardinal Gibbons, American Heritage Plantation, Marietta, St. IGGY, St. Edwards, Warren Central, Gonzaga. Aledo, Columbia FL, Walton , Chandler, Bingham, Buford You have Katy in Tier 3 & 4. Personally, I would take them out of Tier 3 (see how they do once playoffs start). I would also switch Duncanville & Aledo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 14 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: I knew it! I knew it all along! He should like them. That's a nasty bunch those hairy Hawgs are. We've been efficient on offense, and terrorizing defensively. The Blackhats live in their opponents backfield. 42 sacks, 88 QB hurries, and 82 TFL thru 5 games. Even MD and SJB can't match those numbers despite their weaker SoS. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, CCBlackhatter said: He should like them. That's a nasty bunch those hairy Hawgs are. We've been efficient on offense, and terrorizing defensively. The Blackhats live in their opponents backfield. 42 sacks, 88 QB hurries, and 82 TFL thru 5 games. Even MD and SJB can't match those numbers despite their weaker SoS. Neither MD nor SJB’s opponents have run 212 offensive plays so......... whonthe hell is CQ’s stat man, Rab? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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