5-Poll HSFB Preseason Top 25 Compilation

[ECHS05]

Preseason Top 25 polls added/used: 

USAToday Top 25

HSFA 100 (only Top 25 used) (Algorithm)

MaxPreps (Expert)

PrepForce Top 25

Massey (Algorithm)  (Im actually not going to add this yet, as its pretty awful... Very random this early)

And eventually PrepNation (not added yet because its not out yet)

I added the new FloFootball Top 25

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(Adding 5 points to give credit for making the Top 25.. So #1 gets 30, #25 gets 6)

USAToday / MaxPreps(Expert) / HSFA100 / PrepForce / FloFootball

1. IMG Academy USA - 30 + 28 + 26 + 30 + 30 = 144

2. Mater Dei CA - 28 + 29 + 30 + 27 + 28 = 142

3. St. John Bosco CA - 29 + 30 + 27 + 29 + 26 = 141

4. Allen TX - 27 + 27 + 29 + 23 + 29 = 135

5. Grayson GA - 26 + 26 + 28 + 22 + 27 = 129

6. St. John's DC - 25 + 25 + 22 + 28 + 21 = 121

7. St. Frances Academy MD - 22 + 24 + 16 + 26 + 22 = 110

8. St. Thomas Aquinas FL - 24 + 23 + 14 + 25 + 19 = 105

9. Chandler AZ - 23 + 21 + 9 + 24 + 24 = 101

10. Lake Travis TX - 21 + 22 + 15 + 13 + 25 = 96

11. Bishop Gorman NV - 20 + 20 + 21 + 19 + 10 = 90

12. Miami Central FL - 16 + 18 + 17 + 11 + 14 = 76

13. Hoover AL - 19 + 10 + 25 + 0 + 17 = 71

14. St. Louis HI - 17 + 19 + 0 + 20 + 13 = 69

15. Marietta GA - 15 + 16 + 0 + 17 + 18 = 66

16. Pickerington Central OH - 14 + 9 + 20 + 14 + 8 = 65

17. Bergen Catholic NJ - 18 + 8 + 23 + 0 + 11 = 60

18. Katy TX - 12 + 17 + 10 + 0 + 16 = 55

19. Cardinal Gibbons FL - 0 + 11 + 0 + 21 + 23 = 55

20. Orange Lutheran CA - 0 + 0 + 0 + 18 + 20 = 38

21. University Lab LA - 9 + 0 + 0 + 16 + 9 = 34

22. Good Counsel MD - 8 + 0 + 24 + 0 + 0 = 32

23. St. Joseph's Prep PA - 13 + 0 + 19 + 0 + 0 = 32

24. Folsom CA - 11 + 12 + 7 + 0 + 0 = 30

25. Corona Centennial CA - 6 + 14 + 0 + 7 + 0 = 27

 

26. De La Salle CA - 0 + 13 + 0 + 12 + 0 = 25

27. Narbonne CA - 0 + 7 + 0 + 0 + 15 = 22

28. Warren Central IN - 10 + 0 + 12 + 0 + 0 = 22

29. Archer GA - 0 + 6 + 0 + 0 + 12 = 18

30. Owasso OK - 7 + 0 + 11 + 0 + 0 = 18

31. DePaul Catholic NJ - 0 + 0 + 18 + 0 + 0 = 18

32. Chaminade-Madonna FL - 0 + 0 + 0 + 8 + 7 = 15

33. Bingham UT - 0 + 15 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 15

34. Archbishop Hoban OH - 0 + 0 + 0 + 15 + 0 = 15

35. Trinity (Louisville) KY - 0 + 0 + 8 + 6 + 0 = 14

36. St. Joseph Regional NJ - 0 + 0 + 13 + 0 + 0 = 13

37. DeMatha MD - 0 + 0 + 0 + 10 + 0 = 10

38. Saguaro AZ - 0 + 0 + 0 + 9 + 0 = 9

39. Dutch Fork SC - 0 + 0 + 6 + 0 + 0 = 6

40. North Gwinnett GA - 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 6 = 6

[Belly Bob]

OLu jumped out to me.

I understand that they've got some highly recruited skill players, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them go 3-3 in the Trinity League. 

[ECHS05]

A cleaner look...

1. IMG Academy USA

2. Mater Dei CA

3. St. John Bosco CA

4. Allen TX

5. Grayson GA

6. St. John's DC

7. St. Frances Academy MD

8. St. Thomas Aquinas FL

9. Chandler AZ 

10. Lake Travis TX

11. Bishop Gorman NV

12. Miami Central FL

13. Hoover AL

14. St. Louis HI

15. Marietta GA

16. Pickerington Central OH

17. Bergen Catholic NJ

18. Katy TX

19. Cardinal Gibbons FL

20. Orange Lutheran CA

21. University Lab LA

22. Good Counsel MD

23. St. Joseph's Prep PA

24. Folsom CA

25. Corona Centennial CA

[ECHS05]

6 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

OLu jumped out to me.

I understand that they've got some highly recruited skill players, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them go 3-3 in the Trinity League. 

Yeah... People jumped on them almost solely because of The Opening performances of WR Kyle Ford & QB Ryan Hilinski.

Ford was said to be the clear best WR there... In shorts.

[HawgGoneIt]

Not buying Archer yet either. 

Can't quite figure how these polls are all hopping on with them when it flies in the face of the state polls.

[Blueliner]

I definitely think Folsom is too low. 

[ECHS05]

14 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

Not buying Archer yet either. 

Can't quite figure how these polls are all hopping on with them when it flies in the face of the state polls.

Archer is essentially #5... #5 seems to be 1 of Archer, Rome, or Buford. With Walton & McEachern right after them... 

[ECHS05]

11 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

I definitely think Folsom is too low. 

Too low like... They should be #40 instead of #24?

[HawgGoneIt]

7 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

Archer is essentially #5... #5 seems to be 1 of Archer, Rome, or Buford. With Walton & McEachern right after them... 

Right. 

So why would all the national polls have them at third? 

 

Somebody is wrong. Either the local polls or the national polls. 

[Eddyr2]

1 hour ago, ECHS05 said:

Yeah... People jumped on them almost solely because of The Opening performances of WR Kyle Ford & QB Ryan Hilinski.

Ford was said to be the clear best WR there... In shorts.

Only because Bru was still out...

[Belly Bob]

1 hour ago, ECHS05 said:

Yeah... People jumped on them almost solely because of The Opening performances of WR Kyle Ford & QB Ryan Hilinski.

Ford was said to be the clear best WR there... In shorts.

It reminds me of Pittsburg last year and this year (I think) -- a lot of good position players, but not much else.

But I watched the Pittsburg-DLS game, and your position players don't count for much when your QB is running for his life the moment he snaps the ball. 

DLS won that game because Pittsburg's offensive line couldn't keep it together long enough for their star position players to get anything done. 

 

[Belly Bob]

1 hour ago, HawgGoneIt said:

Not buying Archer yet either. 

Can't quite figure how these polls are all hopping on with them when it flies in the face of the state polls.

It would be nice to see more links to state polls.

We see a lot of links to national polls and we see a lot of members posting their own state polls, but we don't see a lot of links to professional state polls. 

Those might help add depth or texture (or whatever the appropriate metaphor is) to the national polls, which I suspect are often based on reputation or on which state programs have been successful in recent years.

But I would think that the state guys have their ears closer to ground than the national pollsters do. 

[Blueliner]

5 hours ago, ECHS05 said:

Too low like... They should be #40 instead of #24?

Yep. I was being sarcastic. They are not low enough...as in I see them in the 50+ ranges. Folsom is like Aledo. They look great against “5A” teams, and the get crushed against Bishop Amat. 

Oops...didn’t mean to make another Folsom thead🤣

[FolsomPrisonBlues]

Folsom ranked ahead of DLS. 

Folsom is the favorite going into Friday

DLS fans=nervous

[Columbiafan]

7 hours ago, Belly Bob said:

It would be nice to see more links to state polls.

We see a lot of links to national polls and we see a lot of members posting their own state polls, but we don't see a lot of links to professional state polls. 

Those might help add depth or texture (or whatever the appropriate metaphor is) to the national polls, which I suspect are often based on reputation or on which state programs have been successful in recent years.

But I would think that the state guys have their ears closer to ground than the national pollsters do. 

I'll post the FHSF  (Florida HS Football) poll once it goes up but I'm still waiting to see it myself

[HawgGoneIt]

7 hours ago, Belly Bob said:

It would be nice to see more links to state polls.

We see a lot of links to national polls and we see a lot of members posting their own state polls, but we don't see a lot of links to professional state polls. 

Those might help add depth or texture (or whatever the appropriate metaphor is) to the national polls, which I suspect are often based on reputation or on which state programs have been successful in recent years.

But I would think that the state guys have their ears closer to ground than the national pollsters do. 

https://www.ajc.com/blog/high-school-sports/maxwell-2018-preseason-rankings/BwkIn8srsZqXECvoZkFuiK/

 

http://www.gpb.org/sports/football/rankings

 

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/rankings/list.aspx?page=1&ssid=d7de9baf-87f8-4a16-bf62-ff51dcb7b9d5&state=ga

 

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.wsbtv.com/sports/high-school-football/georgia-high-school-football-returns-who-are-the-state-s-top-ranked-teams-/812054018

 

Idk. I'm sure there is more, but, for the most part, the hobbyists on here all agree as well. 

[Rufus69]

9 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said:

Not buying Archer yet either. 

Can't quite figure how these polls are all hopping on with them when it flies in the face of the state polls.

Archer will be totally fine...........................................until they get to Colquitt in the Playoffs.

 

 

Rufus>>

[Fred]

3 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said:

https://www.ajc.com/blog/high-school-sports/maxwell-2018-preseason-rankings/BwkIn8srsZqXECvoZkFuiK/

 

http://www.gpb.org/sports/football/rankings

 

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/rankings/list.aspx?page=1&ssid=d7de9baf-87f8-4a16-bf62-ff51dcb7b9d5&state=ga

 

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.wsbtv.com/sports/high-school-football/georgia-high-school-football-returns-who-are-the-state-s-top-ranked-teams-/812054018

 

Idk. I'm sure there is more, but, for the most part, the hobbyists on here all agree as well. 

GPB doesn't have Grayson in the top ten.  Smucks.

[HawgGoneIt]

1 minute ago, Fred said:

GPB doesn't have Grayson in the top ten.  Smucks.

And they have Archer at 3. They are the definite anomaly and inheritence poll for the state. 

I  think that a lot of coaches agree that a team earned a spot last year, they start there this year though. Even Kenyatta tweeted that NG is king of the hill until someone knocks them off. 

 

[Fred]

2 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

And they have Archer at 3. They are the definite anomaly and inheritence poll for the state. 

I  think that a lot of coaches agree that a team earned a spot last year, they start there this year though. Even Kenyatta tweeted that NG is king of the hill until someone knocks them off. 

 

I have no problem with N Gwinnett #1 and Colquitt #2 or even most of the top 10 but leaving us totally off this list calls into question your understanding of GA 7A football.

[HawgGoneIt]

2 hours ago, Fred said:

I have no problem with N Gwinnett #1 and Colquitt #2 or even most of the top 10 but leaving us totally off this list calls into question your understanding of GA 7A football.

Agreed. 

Not sure how you leave Grayson out of the top 10 altogether. 

[golfaddict1]

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/V0MR6PQTKkeuq_VJFiGMYA/high-school-football-top-25-composite-rankings.htm

fyi 

[Las Vegas_JC]

And Prepnation released its 2018 preseason poll today. 

 

http://therealprepnation.blogspot.com/2018/08/preseason-prepnation-national-prep.html?m=1

[Las Vegas_JC]

On 8/14/2018 at 7:15 PM, ECHS05 said:

A cleaner look...

1. IMG Academy USA

2. Mater Dei CA

3. St. John Bosco CA

4. Allen TX

5. Grayson GA

6. St. John's DC

7. St. Frances Academy MD

8. St. Thomas Aquinas FL

9. Chandler AZ 

10. Lake Travis TX

11. Bishop Gorman NV

12. Miami Central FL

13. Hoover AL

14. St. Louis HI

15. Marietta GA

16. Pickerington Central OH

17. Bergen Catholic NJ

18. Katy TX

19. Cardinal Gibbons FL

20. Orange Lutheran CA

21. University Lab LA

22. Good Counsel MD

23. St. Joseph's Prep PA

24. Folsom CA

25. Corona Centennial CA

IMO it is kind of odd that only 3 teams from Texas and 3 teams from Florida are in the comp 25. 

Massey only has IMG and Allen in it's top 25. 

[Horsefly]

3 minutes ago, Las Vegas_JC said:

IMO it is kind of odd that only 3 teams from Texas and 3 teams from Florida are in the comp 25. 

Massey only has IMG and Allen in it's top 25. 

Realistically 3 is about right (in any year), the teams may not be but that’s up for debate.  CA is overrepresented, they don’t have 5 teams.

I dont think Katy is top 25, I think north shore could be the next Texas team up, or maybe duncanville.