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Interesting Tidbit on HSFBA Podcast re: Rankings Algorithm


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In a recent podcast Jeff Fisher was talking about Mater Dei's forfeit and its impact on the HSFBA rankings algorithm (around the 10 min mark). What I found interesting was his statement that this (a forfeit loss) had never happened to a team in regards to their ranking algorithm. What's interesting about this is that it suggests that their algorithm is not explicitly including ALL teams the way that CalPreps does since at least some team in the country is forfeiting games every year. I'm not saying this is necessarily a good or a bad thing, or that one approach is necessarily better than the other, it's just interesting. It also raises the question of how they are choosing to include teams in their algorithm and how they are treating the interconnected chain of teams that fall outside the scope of their algorithm (e.g., at what point do they make that cutoff and what heuristics, if any, are they using in place of those explicit data sets?).

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28 minutes ago, dntn31 said:

In a recent podcast Jeff Fisher was talking about Mater Dei's forfeit and its impact on the HSFBA rankings algorithm (around the 10 min mark). What I found interesting was his statement that this (a forfeit loss) had never happened to a team in regards to their ranking algorithm. What's interesting about this is that it suggests that their algorithm is not explicitly including ALL teams the way that CalPreps does since at least some team in the country is forfeiting games every year. I'm not saying this is necessarily a good or a bad thing, or that one approach is necessarily better than the other, it's just interesting. It also raises the question of how they are choosing to include teams in their algorithm and how they are treating the interconnected chain of teams that fall outside the scope of their algorithm (e.g., at what point do they make that cutoff and what heuristics, if any, are they using in place of those explicit data sets?).

A loss is a loss. No National title contention for them now. 

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7 hours ago, dntn31 said:

In a recent podcast Jeff Fisher was talking about Mater Dei's forfeit and its impact on the HSFBA rankings algorithm (around the 10 min mark). What I found interesting was his statement that this (a forfeit loss) had never happened to a team in regards to their ranking algorithm. What's interesting about this is that it suggests that their algorithm is not explicitly including ALL teams the way that CalPreps does since at least some team in the country is forfeiting games every year. I'm not saying this is necessarily a good or a bad thing, or that one approach is necessarily better than the other, it's just interesting. It also raises the question of how they are choosing to include teams in their algorithm and how they are treating the interconnected chain of teams that fall outside the scope of their algorithm (e.g., at what point do they make that cutoff and what heuristics, if any, are they using in place of those explicit data sets?).

Like his approach...the ineligible player didn’t impact the game so he isn’t holding it against MD...after today only one team in the nation can beat MD...and they can do it twist 😬😬😬

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