LiberalDonaldTrump Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Its 2018 we’re not In the past anymore new year new Thang 1.Cali 2.FL 3. Maryland/DC 4.North Jersey 5. Missouri 6 Georgia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 FIFY. You were close😉 1. Cali 2. Florida 3. Maryland/DC 4. Georgia 5. Jersey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoRoman Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Bodysurf said: FIFY. You were close😉 1. Cali 2. Florida 3. Maryland/DC 4. Georgia 5. Jersey 1. Cali/TX in a tie (have to give both their due) 2. Georgia (you could argue number 1 based on how small of a State it is - the population is less than 1/3.5 of Cali and 1/2.5 of TX ....that deserves respect 3. Crapshoot here between the others (Maryland, Jersey, Florida) Any of the top teams from any of these States could always lose against the top few South FL /Miami Dade teams assuming these teams could manage special teams, turnovers, had decent coaching etc (but they don't of course). I'm making the point that playing there you will come against more raw talent than anywhere else - period, and that is always dangerous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoRoman Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Ohio should be in there in there in the 3 spot as well - can't sleep on Ohio they're solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, GrecoRoman said: Ohio should be in there in there in the 3 spot as well - can't sleep on Ohio they're solid NJ owns Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalven Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 In terms of talent and schedule (OOS). It’s Cali at the top. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 hours ago, LiberalDonaldTrump said: Its 2018 we’re not In the past anymore new year new Thang 1.Cali 2.FL 3. Maryland/DC 4.North Jersey 5. Missouri 6 Georgia Hahahaha... Missouri? North Jersey? Ive known of liquid courage from drinking, what ya call it from kush? Puffery? Lol 😅 BGW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospeeder Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, GrecoRoman said: 1. Cali/TX in a tie (have to give both their due) 2. Georgia (you could argue number 1 based on how small of a State it is - the population is less than 1/3.5 of Cali and 1/2.5 of TX ....that deserves respect 3. Crapshoot here between the others (Maryland, Jersey, Florida) Any of the top teams from any of these States could always lose against the top few South FL /Miami Dade teams assuming these teams could manage special teams, turnovers, had decent coaching etc (but they don't of course). I'm making the point that playing there you will come against more raw talent than anywhere else - period, and that is always dangerous For years the 305 area code has been among the best in the country but as you pointed out ST's, Turnovers etc and coaching have been a problem. Does anyone know why that is so conistant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Guys, no way this is a serious thread, y’all asses getting played by LDT. Regards BGW 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Damn yall get hooked easily these days 😂. #4 and #5 along should have hinted to yall that this was bait. North Jersey...really... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Frosty4024 said: Damn yall get hooked easily these days 😂. #4 and #5 along should have hinted to yall that this was bait. North Jersey...really... Moissouri was a joke but Ga definitely is 5 spot ,,, thanks for us we’ll see next week who belongs on this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoRoman Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, HSFBfan said: NJ owns Ohio I get your point here in that I assume you're referring to the w/l record of OOS games (which I get is the focus of this board so I kept is as a factor as well but not the primary driver) I'm also looking at State depth and the quality of players produced and by those measures Jersey isn't even in the top 5 and toward the bottom of the top 10 When you say "owns" I think the trap here is cherry picking random OOS games to gauge a State overall. The problem with this is that Jersey always has a couple teams that can with play with anyone and then a huge dropoff from there. Not to mention, I believe many of the wins vs Ohio were those all world Bosco teams who completely dominated NJ and were a very poor representative of the State overall because they sucked up such a huge amount of the available talent (and had Toal as coach lol what a combo those teams were great) Anyway not trying to argue brother I'm from Jersey and played BNU - just trying to be honest from my perspective which would be that Ohio is well ahead of Jersey in 1.) quality team depth at the HS level and 2) player output to college and the NFL. Again, some might not care about those two issues though it's scary to think there are people who would only look at some random OOS games to rate a State. At that point, why not say Jersey > FL, or Bosco's program is better than STA because Bosco beat them twice. Finally I would suggest doesn't even represent Jersey well being so many of the kids are from NY State. I get this is due to geography, etc however it's something no other State has going on in the same manner. NY State sucks in football but they have a lost a ton of HS talent to those BNU schools. The BNU model brings in about 70-80% of the top players in a huge densely populated area and leaving the rest of the State (and Southern NY) week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoRoman Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, Gospeeder said: For years the 305 area code has been among the best in the country but as you pointed out ST's, Turnovers etc and coaching have been a problem. Does anyone know why that is so conistant? Real tough inner city area, kind of just goes that way. Give a few of these teams a great coach like a Greg Toal and watch out. Two similar area with incredible talent are Houston, TX and New Orleans through Baton Rouge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Only complete moron would actually believe California is the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 18 minutes ago, GrecoRoman said: I get your point here in that I assume you're referring to the w/l record of OOS games (which I get is the focus of this board so I kept is as a factor as well but not the primary driver) I'm also looking at State depth and the quality of players produced and by those measures Jersey isn't even in the top 5 and toward the bottom of the top 10 When you say "owns" I think the trap here is cherry picking random OOS games to gauge a State overall. The problem with this is that Jersey always has a couple teams that can with play with anyone and then a huge dropoff from there. Not to mention, I believe many of the wins vs Ohio were those all world Bosco teams who completely dominated NJ and were a very poor representative of the State overall because they sucked up such a huge amount of the available talent (and had Toal as coach lol what a combo those teams were great) Anyway not trying to argue brother I'm from Jersey and played BNU - just trying to be honest from my perspective which would be that Ohio is well ahead of Jersey in 1.) quality team depth at the HS level and 2) player output to college and the NFL. Again, some might not care about those two issues though it's scary to think there are people who would only look at some random OOS games to rate a State. At that point, why not say Jersey > FL, or Bosco's program is better than STA because Bosco beat them twice. Finally I would suggest doesn't even represent Jersey well being so many of the kids are from NY State. I get this is due to geography, etc however it's something no other State has going on in the same manner. NY State sucks in football but they have a lost a ton of HS talent to those BNU schools. The BNU model brings in about 70-80% of the top players in a huge densely populated area and leaving the rest of the State (and Southern NY) week. Bergen beat St. Eds Bosco beat st. Eds Spp I believe beat iggys I would have to go look at all the matchups. When you look at top teams from NJ and top teams fro. Ohio usually nj comes out on top. All you have to go by is the OOS games as they gauge the teams in a not so great way as you csnt guarantee strength of team when you schedule the game. What team did you play for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoRoman Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, HSFBfan said: Bergen beat St. Eds Bosco beat st. Eds Spp I believe beat iggys I would have to go look at all the matchups. When you look at top teams from NJ and top teams fro. Ohio usually nj comes out on top. All you have to go by is the OOS games as they gauge the teams in a not so great way as you csnt guarantee strength of team when you schedule the game. What team did you play for? I hear you. I played for Bergen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Bodysurf said: FIFY. You were close😉 1. Cali 2. Florida 3. Maryland/DC 4. Georgia 5. Jersey Not sure what I was thinking but I must of thought that Texas succeeded from the Union or something. Mental omission on my part! so I will fix it for myself. cali florida texas DC/maryland georgia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, GrecoRoman said: I hear you. I played for Bergen. What years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoRoman Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Early 90's .....don't want to be descriptive with identity because I always worry about the possibly offending someone on the board. Zeke Rogers (DeRosa was the backup) was our QB with Eric Lane at TB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 minute ago, GrecoRoman said: Early 90's .....don't want to be descriptive with identity because I always worry about the possibly offending someone on the board. Zeke Rogers (DeRosa was the backup) was our QB with Eric Lane at TB. No that's fine. Decade would have been fine lol I pretty much offend people daily on here so dont worry about it lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalven Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Texasball said: Only complete moron would actually believe California is the best. Does any team from TX play outside of TX worth mentioning? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Texasball said: Only complete moron would actually believe California is the best. The top 1% of Cali teams would demolish the the Top 1% of Texas Hence why TeJas is UnRanked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, LiberalDonaldTrump said: The top 1% of Cali teams would demolish the the Top 1% of Texas Hence why TeJas is UnRanked TBall just called you a moron preemptively. BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 For elite Hsfb teams CURRENTLY, CA stands alone at top and MD/ DC is the fastest riser For sheer size, scale, and consistency of good old fashioned hsfb with the hometown flavor, TX stands alone for ridonculous athleticism, go to SoFL or LA defensive front 7 — GA may be best bet as a region, the southeast stands alone no matter how you slice it one half of a small northeastern state has all of that regions power from a national perspective Ohio is Ohio — still a top 5 state with a great playoff system to determine true champ A bit but not much different than 10 or 20 years ago depends how you prioritize criteria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohio Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 2 hours ago, LiberalDonaldTrump said: The top 1% of Cali teams would demolish the the Top 1% of Texas Hence why TeJas is UnRanked What's top 1%? Top 5, top 10, top 20, or top 30? Top 3? After MD, Centennial, and SJB, who does Cali really have? DLS, with its stellar OOS record? Folsom? OL?, MV?, LBP? In the top 10 vs top 10, Texas can hold their own against Cali. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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