Whiteshoes Top 100 - August 28, 2018

[whiteshoes]

A lot of new faces in the poll this week after a very crazy weekend.

1.       Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (2-0)

2.        Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (2-0)

3.        Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (1-0)

4.        Washington (DC) St. Johns Academy (1-0)

5.        Allen (TX)

6.        Loganville (GA) Grayson (1-0)

7.        Baltimore (MD) St. Frances Academy (1-0)

8.        Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (1-0)

9.        Corona (CA) Centennial (2-0)

10.    Hoover (AL) (1-0)

11.    Austin (TX) Lake Travis

12.    Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic

13.    Honolulu (HI) St. Louis (2-0)

14.    Concord (CA) De LaSalle (2-0)

15.    Baton Rouge (LA) University Lab

16.    Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban (1-0)

17.    Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County (2-0)

18.    Pickerington (OH) Central (1-0)

19.    Mission Viejo (CA) (2-0)

20.    Katy (TX)

21.    Suwannee (GA) North Gwinnett (1-0)

22.    Westlake Village (CA) Oaks Christian (2-0)

23.    Miami (FL) Carol City (1-0)

24.    Rome (GA) (1-0)

25.    Indianapolis (IN) Warren Central (2-0)

26.    Chandler (AZ) (1-1)

27.    Miami (FL) Central (1-0)

28.    South Jordan (UT) Bingham (2-0)

29.    Houston (TX) North Shore

30.    Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (0-1)

31.    Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel (1-0)

32.    Wayne (NJ) DePaul Catholic

33.    Miami (FL) Northwestern (1-0)

34.    Irmo (SC) Dutch Fork (1-0)

35.    Brentwood (TN) Academy (2-0)

36.    Owasso (OK) (1-0)

37.    Montvale (NJ) St. Joseph Regional

38.    Folsom (CA) (1-1)

39.    Austin (TX) Westlake

40.    Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep

41.    Buford (GA) (1-0)

42.    Aledo (TX)

43.    Cincinnati (OH) Colerain (1-0)

44.    Duncanville (TX)

45.    Jersey City (NJ) St. Peters Prep

46.    Converse (TX) Judson

47.    Phenix City (AL) Central (1-0)

48.    Frankford (IL) Lincoln-Way East (1-0)

49.    Gardena (CA) Serra (1-0)

50.    Roswell (GA) Blessed Trinity (2-0)

51.    San Bernardino (CA) Cajon (2-0)

52.    Marietta (GA) Walton (2-0)

53.    Plantation (FL) American Heritage (0-1)

54.    Orange (CA) Lutheran (1-1)

5           55.     Muskegon (MI) (1-0)

56.    Mentor (OH) (1-0)

57.    Upland (CA) (1-0)

58.    Southlake (TX) Carroll

59.    Charlotte (NC) Mallard Creek (1-0)

60.    Cypress (TX) Cy-Fair

61.    Apopka (FL) Wekiva (1-0)

62.    Anderson (SC) T.L. Hanna (1-0)

63.    Philadelphia (PA) Imohtep Charter (1-0)

64.    Cincinnati (OH) St. Xavier (1-0)

65.    Henderson (NV) Liberty (1-0)

66.    Euless (TX) Trinity

67.    Baton Rouge (LA) Catholic

68.    Spring (TX) Klein Collins

69.    Kahuku (HI) (3-0)

70.    Longview (TX)

71.    Starkville (MS) (2-0)

72.    Dallas (TX) Bishop Dunne

73.    North Little Rock (AR) (1-0)

74.    Fort Lauderdale (FL) Cardinal Gibbons (0-1)

75.    Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (1-0)

76.    Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (0-1)

77.    New Orleans (LA) Edna Karr

78.    Lawrenceville (GA) Archer (0-1)

79.    West Hills (CA) Chaminade (1-1)

80.    West Point (MS) (2-0)

81.    Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (0-1)

82.    Phoenix (AZ) Pinnacle (2-0)

83.    Salt Lake City (UT) East (1-1)

84.    Cleveland (OH) St. Ignatius (0-1)

85.    Maryville (TN) (2-0)

86.    Clinton (MS) (2-0)

87.    Pickerington (OH) North (1-0)

88.    Duncan (SC) Byrnes (2-0)

89.    Milton (GA) (2-0)

90.    Cornelius (NC) Hough (2-0)

91.    North Charleston (SC) Fort Dorchester (2-0)

92.    San Juan Capistrano (CA) JSerra Catholic (2-0)

93.    Mansfield (TX) Legacy

94.    Scottsdale (AZ) Saguaro (1-1)

95.    Greensboro (NC) Page (2-0)

96.    Catawissa (PA) Southern Columbia Area (1-0)

97.    Park Hills (KY) Covington Catholic (2-0)

98.    Owings Mill (MD) McDonogh (1-0)

99.    Carmel (IN) (2-0)

100.    Detroit (MI) M L King (1-0)

 

 

Dropped out –

#44 Rock Hill (SC) South Pointe (1-1) lost to Rock Hill (SC) (1-1)        29-22

#45 Trussville (AL) Hewitt-Trussville (0-1) lost to Ellenwood (GA) Cedar Grove (2-0)      34-30

#51 Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (0-1) lost to Deerfield Beach (FL) (1-0)         13-10

#56 Marietta (GA) (0-2) lost to #38 Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel (1-0)          40-28

#61 Murfreesboro (TN) Oakland (1-1) lost to Maryville (TN) (2-0)         24-21

#65 Orlando (FL) Dr. Phillips (0-1) lost to Leesburg (GA) Lee County (1-0)       35-3

#70 Phoenix (AZ) Mountain Pointe (0-1) lost to Phoenix (AZ) Pinnacle (2-0)       56-34

#81 Louisville (KY) Trinity (0-2) lost to #29 Indianapolis (IN) Warren Central (2-0)       42-41

#85 Chicago (IL) Phillips (0-1) lost to #19 Pickerington (OH) Central     49-18

#90 Little Rock (AR) Pulaski Academy (1-0) defeated Springdale (AR) Har-Ber      50-14

#91 Pinson (AL) Pinson Valley (0-1) lost to #12 Hoover (AL) (1-0)        52-14

#100 Harbor City (CA) Narbonne (0-2) lost to Long Beach (CA) Poly (2-0)         26-3

[RedZone]

Pulaski let you down only winning 50-14?

[On2whls]

Having seen both Chandler and OLU in person this season against a common opponent, I would have to say OLU is probably 14-17 points better than Chandler.  Tough thing for them though is 7-3 is about all they can hope for since they have SJB and MD to deal with in league.   They also schedule Mission Viejo OOL.

[Sammyswordsman]

Pretty good from a Calif standpoint.  Only glaring problem is JSerra should replace Chaminade in the 70ish range.  Mission Viejo is way too high.

[On2whls]

10 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

Pretty good from a Calif standpoint.  Only glaring problem is JSerra should replace Chaminade in the 70ish range.  Mission Viejo is way too high.

I think Chaminade shouldn’t even be top 100.  

[whiteshoes]

14 hours ago, RedZone said:

Pulaski let you down only winning 50-14?

More of a result of a "devaluation" of the state in general.    Was not impressed with some of the scores that emitted from the state including the state's best team (North Little Rock) barely edging out Tulsa Washington.     In addition to that, two of the states better teams (Bentonville and Bentonville West) were soundly beaten by Oklahoma teams.

[whiteshoes]

7 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said:

Pretty good from a Calif standpoint.  Only glaring problem is JSerra should replace Chaminade in the 70ish range.  Mission Viejo is way too high.

Kinda agree with you on Mission Viejo but honestly that is where they are at this point.    A little apprehensive with JSerra due to their schedule which beats them down by the end of the year.    Chaminade's schedule is a little lighter.

[abbatt]

Whiteshoes,

I know that Michigan City is top 15 in Ind....but I`m disappointed in H-F`s showing. I expected a 3 TD win. What are your impressions of both teams?

Loyola could have beaten Rockford by 40 plus but they took their foot off the accelerator.

[RedZone]

53 minutes ago, whiteshoes said:

More of a result of a "devaluation" of the state in general.    Was not impressed with some of the scores that emitted from the state including the state's best team (North Little Rock) barely edging out Tulsa Washington.     In addition to that, two of the states better teams (Bentonville and Bentonville West) were soundly beaten by Oklahoma teams.

Hmmm, I guess.....

I dont think you are looking at that right.

Anyways.....

 

[Omaha Vol]

58 minutes ago, whiteshoes said:

More of a result of a "devaluation" of the state in general.    Was not impressed with some of the scores that emitted from the state including the state's best team (North Little Rock) barely edging out Tulsa Washington.     In addition to that, two of the states better teams (Bentonville and Bentonville West) were soundly beaten by Oklahoma teams.

Tulsa Washington can be a scrappy team to play (just ask W. Monroe). Bentonville wasn’t soundly beaten. They lost in OT to a  top 5-10 OK team. B’ville West lost to the defending big school state champs. Owasso is legit. They proved that last year by taking out Union. Speaking of Union, they must be down this year. Or Broken Arrow is for real. 

As far as Arkansas goes, Fayetteville impressed me the most with a dismantling of Vianney. Vianney is a top 5-10 Missouri team. 

[RedZone]

23 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said:

Tulsa Washington can be a scrappy team to play (just ask W. Monroe). Bentonville wasn’t soundly beaten. They lost in OT to a  top 5-10 OK team. B’ville West lost to the defending big school state champs. Owasso is legit. They proved that last year by taking out Union. Speaking of Union, they must be down this year. Or Broken Arrow is for real. 

As far as Arkansas goes, Fayetteville impressed me the most with a dismantling of Vianney. Vianney is a top 5-10 Missouri team. 

Bentonville West had the #1 team in OK beat. Owasso had to score 35 points in the 4th to pull out the win.Bet that was something.

http://www.maxpreps.com/games/football-fall-18/bentonville-west-vs-owasso/8-24-2018-22H-12VoR0urak-P7QySvw.htm#tab=box-score&schoolid=

 

OWASSO — The Class 6AI defending state champions looked like they might get run off their own field late into Owasso’s season opener Friday night.

The No. 3-ranked Rams trailed Bentonville West by 17 points in the third quarter before quarterback Will Kuehne and Owasso rallied with a 35-point fourth quarter in a 56-40 come-from-behind victory at Owasso Stadium.

[RedZone]

That said. I don't think any of that stuff has anything to do with Pulaski Academy. Just my take.

[Omaha Vol]

18 minutes ago, RedZone said:

That said. I don't think any of that stuff has anything to do with Pulaski Academy. Just my take.

I don’t think Pulaski could beat the big AR schools. At least, Fayetteville, B’ville West, NLR, or Bentonville. They will roll to another smaller class 5A state title and be the 4th or 5th best team in the state. Heck, Greenwood/Pulaski might be a close game. 

[Sammyswordsman]

3 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

Kinda agree with you on Mission Viejo but honestly that is where they are at this point.    A little apprehensive with JSerra due to their schedule which beats them down by the end of the year.    Chaminade's schedule is a little lighter.

So are we ranking teams or win loss records ?

JSerra May end up 8-4 but they will be much better than most of your 12-0 teams in the top 100.

 

[Pops]

21 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

So are we ranking teams or win loss records

If teams, Folsom should be ahead of MV and Oaks as neither of those teams records would be unblemished if they’d hoed as tough a row as Folsom 

[Sammyswordsman]

5 minutes ago, Pops said:

If teams, Folsom should be ahead of MV and Oaks as neither of those teams records would be unblemished if they’d hoed as tough a row as Folsom 

I think all three of those teams would be very competitive and should be ranked in a clump.  I would even toss in OLU and JSerra into the clump

[Pops]

10 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

I think all three of those teams would be very competitive and should be ranked in a clump.  I would even toss in OLU and JSerra into the clump

Folsom better than all of them and would be ranked higher if they played the same schedule (except maybe OLu, although I think Folsom beats CC)

Folsom’s clump should be DLS and CC

you are glibly overlooking scheduling deficiencies from your socal teams that you RAILED on Folsom for 

Have to apply same standards, right?

[Sammyswordsman]

6 minutes ago, Pops said:

Folsom better than all of them and would be ranked higher if they played the same schedule (except maybe OLu, although I think Folsom beats CC)

Folsom’s clump should be DLS and CC

you are glibly overlooking scheduling deficiencies from your socal teams that you RAILED on Folsom for 

Have to apply same standards, right?

Pops. seriously you don't know that.  You haven't seen any of those teams play except Folsom, and you are basing everything on the DLS game.  Personally I think if Folsom played DLS in week 3 the score would be 42-14 DLS.  Now that the DLS offense is starting to gel.

At the end of the day, Folsom is a Public school in the Sacramento area.  They are not Cen10.  They are closer in athletic ability and coaching to Mission Viejo, whom I think plays OLU in a couple weeks.  Then we will see how a Public school (not named Cen10) stacks up against a 2nd Tier Trinity League program.

Folsom is not gonna ride that close game 1 vs DLS all season, not in my book

 

[Pops]

26 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

Pops. seriously you don't know that.  You haven't seen any of those teams play except Folsom, and you are basing everything on the DLS game.  Personally I think if Folsom played DLS in week 3 the score would be 42-14 DLS.  Now that the DLS offense is starting to gel.

At the end of the day, Folsom is a Public school in the Sacramento area.  They are not Cen10.  They are closer in athletic ability and coaching to Mission Viejo, whom I think plays OLU in a couple weeks.  Then we will see how a Public school (not named Cen10) stacks up against a 2nd Tier Trinity League program.

Folsom is not gonna ride that close game 1 vs DLS all season, not in my book

 

#doublestandard

go on a crusade against Folsom and their schedule and then rewarding teams like MV and oaks over Folsom when their W/L from an inferior schedule is clearly the only reason 

obfuscate all you want 

i would take Folsom over cc today straight up — CC schedule much better than MV/ Oaks but folsom and Cc would still switch places in rankings if they had switched schedules 

[Extremely Humble]

57 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

Personally I think if Folsom played DLS in week 3 the score would be 42-14 DLS.

I don't think so Sammy. I don't see Folsom turning the ball over 5 times in DLS territory later in the season. BOTH team's offenses were off that night. 

When the full game comes out, do yourself a favor and go watch the first half of that game and tell me Folsom isn't a top team in CA (this season). I know you have a raging boner to hate on them and Block makes it unbearable but they are a very good team this year. If you want to be a California expert then you have to follow some of the good teams up north as well. 

[AztecPadre]

2 hours ago, Pops said:

Folsom better than all of them and would be ranked higher if they played the same schedule (except maybe OLu, although I think Folsom beats CC)

Folsom’s clump should be DLS and CC

you are glibly overlooking scheduling deficiencies from your socal teams that you RAILED on Folsom for 

Have to apply same standards, right?

Pops, I could  not see them beating CEN10.  No way.  CEN10 would be way too much for them, especially with how much better their D is this year.  OLU would totally overwhelm them too.  Those teams are above folsom.  Just my .02.

[old_e]

3 hours ago, Pops said:

#doublestandard

go on a crusade against Folsom and their schedule and then rewarding teams like MV and oaks over Folsom when their W/L from an inferior schedule is clearly the only reason 

obfuscate all you want 

i would take Folsom over cc today straight up — CC schedule much better than MV/ Oaks but folsom and Cc would still switch places in rankings if they had switched schedules 

Folsom would be 0-2 right with CC's schedule. C'mon pops, when you gonna learn.

[Gospeeder]

8 hours ago, Omaha Vol said:

Tulsa Washington can be a scrappy team to play (just ask W. Monroe). Bentonville wasn’t soundly beaten. They lost in OT to a  top 5-10 OK team. B’ville West lost to the defending big school state champs. Owasso is legit. They proved that last year by taking out Union. Speaking of Union, they must be down this year. Or Broken Arrow is for real. 

As far as Arkansas goes, Fayetteville impressed me the most with a dismantling of Vianney. Vianney is a top 5-10 Missouri team. 

Seems like OK has been moving in the parity direction like a few other states. Makes it more interesting.

[old_e]

10 hours ago, Extremely Humble said:

I don't think so Sammy. I don't see Folsom turning the ball over 5 times in DLS territory later in the season. BOTH team's offenses were off that night. 

When the full game comes out, do yourself a favor and go watch the first half of that game and tell me Folsom isn't a top team in CA (this season). I know you have a raging boner to hate on them and Block makes it unbearable but they are a very good team this year. If you want to be a California expert then you have to follow some of the good teams up north as well. 

They'll turn it over 7 times.

[Pops]

5 hours ago, AztecPadre said:

Pops, I could  not see them beating CEN10.  No way.  CEN10 would be way too much for them, especially with how much better their D is this year.  OLU would totally overwhelm them too.  Those teams are above folsom.  Just my .02.

Wish our disagreement could be settled on field