concha Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Apparently lots of people are lying about California having the country's worst poverty rate: Just a few of the LIARS!!!! 🤣 https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/09/high-cost-california-no-1-in-poverty/ California still No. 1 in poverty https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-california-poverty-rate-20180913-htmlstory.html California ranks No. 1 in poverty once again. https://mises.org/wire/california-has-nations-worst-poverty-rate-new-census-data-shows California Has the Nation's Worst Poverty Rate, New Census Data Shows https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/ TRUE: California has the nation’s highest poverty rate, when factoring in cost-of-living https://www.economist.com/united-states/2018/10/27/why-one-of-americas-richest-states-is-also-its-poorest Poverty in CaliforniaWhy one of America’s richest states is also its poorest https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/16/california-no-1-in-u-s-in-poverty-and-no-1-in-declines-in-poverty/ California No. 1 in U.S. in poverty https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2016/09/28/why-does-california-have-the-nations-highest-poverty-rate/?sh=330c119a12d9 Why Does California Have The Nation's Highest Poverty Rate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Boy, what a life you have! Back to lie some more in less than an hour or so! Andy actually thinks he's doing well. 🤣 California's population GROWTH (FIXED!!!!) is ranked #29 in the country and has actually seen DECLINE recently. DOCUMENTED Amongst established US residents, there is a net OUTFLOW from California to other states. DOCUMENTED There are also large migrations of businesses from California, included some huge tech companies and multinationals. DOCUMENTED But let's not forget! https://internationalbanker.com/finance/the-state-of-californias-economy/ But compared to 2018, California’s gross domestic product (GDP) growth has markedly slowed. For last year’s third quarter, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) recorded California’s GDP growth at just 2.1 percent, less than half of the 4.3 percent posted for 2018 and just over half of Texas’s quarter-three growth rate of 4.0 percent. California is hampered by distinct challenges, most pressing being the shocking income inequality that has developed in recent years. Despite the spectacular income growth California has experienced, homelessness and poverty have also grown rapidly. Indeed, California has the nation’s worst poverty rate, with nearly 40 percent of its residents rated as either poor or “near-poor” by the Census Bureau and the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC). As such, the state ended up being ranked a lowly 47th in terms of median annual household income in a study conducted last July by personal financial-services website WalletHub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: You keep showing more and more incompetence with every post. California can edge out the national rate and still lose a seat if their total population proportional to 435 seats dictates it. A seat can't be halved. Somebody has to gain and somebody has to lose. No they can’t. If they are growing faster than the country, their proportion of the population rises. They might stay the same, but cannot lose a seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, concha said: Andy actually thinks he's doing well. Actually, I know that I am. You're back to lying and then flailing to cover your ass when exposed. At best, 2.5 of your 3 articles directly debunk your claims. It's a record of incompetence not seen here in a while. Well, probably since your last lie fest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, concha said: California's population is ranked #29 in the country and has actually seen DECLINE recently. DOCUMENTED Actually, still wrong. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bormio said: No they can’t. If they are growing faster than the country, their proportion of the population rises. They might stay the same, but cannot lose a seat. Which is why the projections are that they may lose one and they may not. Because nobody knows for sure what the final tally is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Which is why the projections are that they may lose one and they may not. Because nobody knows for sure what the final tally is. This is known as a white flag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, Atticus Finch said: Actually, I know that I am. You're back to lying and then flailing to cover your ass when exposed. At best, 2.5 of your 3 articles directly debunk your claims. It's a record of incompetence not seen here in a while. Well, probably since your last lie fest. No. I stated a fact. You looked at the topic from a different reference point and acted like it disproved my fact. That's what dishonest douchebags like you do. 🤡 And then when I pummel you with data point after data point and supporting article after supporting article, you act like it's not happening and that your original dishonesty rules the day. You are truly laughable. That'd why we love you, Andy. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, concha said: No. I stated a fact. That was misleading and statistically meaningless. As shown in one of your own links. You do this all the time. You lie with statistics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Actually, still wrong. 😄 You can keep stating this and the board can go back and see you are lying. Have fun with that, Andy. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/population-shrinks-in-california-still-most-populous-state/2355776/ Quote The nation's most populous state shrank a bit in the second half of last year, according to official figures released Friday. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, concha said: You looked at the topic from a different reference point and acted like it disproved my fact. I looked at a statistically relevant and meaningful point to rate population growth. Nobody is confused here by what you did. You were purposefully dishonest. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, Atticus Finch said: That was misleading and statistically meaningless. As shown in one of your own links. You do this all the time. You lie with statistics. So now it's not a lie (because it wasn't). 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, concha said: That's what dishonest douchebags like you do. 🤡 Dishonest douchebags prove that you lied with statistics and purposefully mislead? 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, Atticus Finch said: Nobody is confused here by what you did. You were. 🤡 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, concha said: And then when I pummel you with data point after data point and supporting article after supporting article, you act like it's not happening and that your original dishonesty rules the You purposefully mislead with a bullshit statistic and basically all three of your "sources" debunked you. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, concha said: You can keep stating this and the board can go back and see you are lying. You've twice claimed that California is 29th in population. If they go and look what do you think they'll see? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 So Andy, now that you've publicly surrendered on the population thing... 🤡 ... howsabout you tell the class how I and the Census Bureau and the San Diego Trib, and The Economist and Politifact and Forbes (amongst many, many others) lied about California's worst-in-the-country poverty rate. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, concha said: Have fun with that, Andy. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/population-shrinks-in-california-still-most-populous-state/2355776/ I will have fun with your own article stating that your use of that data is misleading and ultimately irrelevant. 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: But Doug Kuczynski of the department's Demographic Research Unit said the two numbers aren't directly comparable because of various adjustments and because each figure represents a point in time. By the department's reckoning, California added about 87,500 residents during the last full calendar year, comparing January-to-January figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, concha said: So now it's not a lie (because it wasn't). 🤡 It's a lie and cherry-pick that was proven, in your own sources, to be meaningless and statistically irrelevant. But you know this. You're just frighteningly dishonest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2020-05-01/population-shrinks-in-california-still-most-populous-state Population Shrinks in California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, concha said: You were. Then why did I so easily read your articles and find the debunkings within them? 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, concha said: So Andy, now that you've publicly surrendered on the population thing... 🤡 Other than lying this is what you do second-most. Claim victory when the person is still relentlessly assaulting your proven lies/cherry-picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Then why did I so easily read your articles and find the debunkings within them? 😄 you didn't Hope this helps 👍 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, concha said: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2020-05-01/population-shrinks-in-california-still-most-populous-state Population Shrinks in California That's the same exact data from before. A 6-month cherry-pick from 2019 that was within a year where the state grew. Remember your own articles debunking you and calling your data meaningless? 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: I will have fun with your own article stating that your use of that data is misleading and ultimately irrelevant. Which changes the reference point and thus does not address what I clearly communicated. Andy being dishonest. 🤣 He doesn't like the fact, so he changes the terms. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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