CCBlackhatter Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 We all like to follow and critique the various HSFB ranking services, and for most the same is true for college football. Personally, I think it makes for good discussion. I took a peek at this week's college rankings and I noticed several wtf's (mostly near the bottom of the Top 25) that I would like to hear other's thoughts on. I'll list a few of them here: #8 ND #21 Miami #23 Arizona St. #25 Michigan State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Miami is hot garbage. But so is FSU and UF. Not a good start so far. UCF gonna go back to back as the best team in the state. Smh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Miami is hot garbage. But so is FSU and UF. Not a good start so far. UCF gonna go back to back as the best team in the state. Smh. Having them in the Top 25 right now is unwarranted. With their epic collapse at the end of 2017 and their poor showing in week 1, the pollsters should be hesitant in ranking them until further notice. Even in defeat TAMU was more impressive and is on the outside looking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, CCBlackhatter said: Having them in the Top 25 right now is unwarranted. With their epic collapse at the end of 2017 and their poor showing in week 1, the pollsters should be hesitant in ranking them until further notice. Even in defeat TAMU was more impressive and is on the outside looking in. Notre Dame that high after barely beating Ball State is a travesty Michigan State, Miami, USC and Michigan ranked but Texas AM not ranked is a sham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Notre Dame that high after barely beating Ball State is a travesty Michigan State, Miami, USC and Michigan ranked but Texas AM not ranked is a sham. A&M isn't that good but i don't think many are that good anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Notre Dame that high after barely beating Ball State is a travesty Michigan State, Miami, USC and Michigan ranked but Texas AM not ranked is a sham. Notre Dame, USC, texas, UF and LSU What do all these teams have in common? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Notre Dame that high after barely beating Ball State is a travesty Michigan State, Miami, USC and Michigan ranked but Texas AM not ranked is a sham. Agreed. Absolutely no argument for ND to be Top 10 or Miami in Top 25. I'm also surprised UGA didn't jump Clemson after dominating the Cocks in a game between 2 ranked teams (although USCe) dropped out. I believe UGA, TAMU, and Stanford were the biggest winners this week with their performances. They should have received more credit from the pollsters. Others beat up on some slap dicks, and some struggled against lesser competition, but that seemed to be overlooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: A&M isn't that good but i don't think many are that good anyway I disagree, but let's pretend they are ranked accordingly. How do you argue Clemson remaining at #2 if that is the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 I dont get South Carolina dropping out from #24 for losing to #3... They are still probably one of the best 25 teams... UGA just wore them down but they played well for a half... Better than some will. We'll see. I think UGA should've moved to #2 also for beating South Carolina by 24 IN Columbia. But that'll work itself out. At some point, IMO... The playoffs are gonna need to be atleast the Top 6 teams. #1 & #2 should have byes the 1st rd... Have #6 play #3, and #4 play #5... The winner of 6 and 3 plays #1 , and the winner of 4 and 5 plays #2 in the 2nd round. If not, theres gonna be some deserving team left out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Georgia was really impressive yesterday (I went to the game). The only weakness I could see was lack of a consistent pass rush. Defensively otherwise they were stout. Their OL was dominant, their QB looks more comfortable and quite accurate, their backs and WRs are physical and hard to tackle. Their special teams looked very sound. They are an elite, if not flashy, football team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: I disagree, but let's pretend they are ranked accordingly. How do you argue Clemson remaining at #2 if that is the case? Idk Had GA and Clemson switched it wouldn't have been something i would have spent time arguing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: I dont get South Carolina dropping out from #24 for losing to #3... They are still probably one of the best 25 teams... UGA just wore them down but they played well for a half... Better than some will. We'll see. I think UGA should've moved to #2 also for beating South Carolina by 24 IN Columbia. But that'll work itself out. At some point, IMO... The playoffs are gonna need to be atleast the Top 6 teams. #1 & #2 should have byes the 1st rd... Have #6 play #3, and #4 play #5... The winner of 6 and 3 plays #1 , and the winner of 4 and 5 plays #2 in the 2nd round. If not, theres gonna be some deserving team left out. If SC was in any conference but the SEC they wouldn't have been ranked at all Same with UF I would like to see 2 non conference games a year dropped and have playoffs move to 16 teams like FCS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: Notre Dame that high after barely beating Ball State is a travesty Michigan State, Miami, USC and Michigan ranked but Texas AM not ranked is a sham. ND wasn't fantastic against Ball State but they didn't barely win. Wimbush is not the answer at qb and I'll say that until proven otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: I dont get South Carolina dropping out from #24 for losing to #3... They are still probably one of the best 25 teams... UGA just wore them down but they played well for a half... Better than some will. We'll see. I think UGA should've moved to #2 also for beating South Carolina by 24 IN Columbia. But that'll work itself out. At some point, IMO... The playoffs are gonna need to be atleast the Top 6 teams. #1 & #2 should have byes the 1st rd... Have #6 play #3, and #4 play #5... The winner of 6 and 3 plays #1 , and the winner of 4 and 5 plays #2 in the 2nd round. If not, theres gonna be some deserving team left out. I agree that the playoffs should be expanded. Each of the power 5 conferences get 2 automatic bids. The remaining 6 spots are at large bids. This would allow for teams like Boise State, UCF, Houston, and the better mid-major teams to be represented. The at large bids should be determined by SoS so the mid majors would need to schedule up against the Power 5 and perform well against them. Also, the Power 5 conferences could be rewarded by getting their #3 or #4 team in if they deserve it based on SoS despite a narrow loss or two against the top teams in their conference. This format would cut out a lot of these scrub games we see scheduled and would generate more revenue and viewership across the CFB landscape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, nptb17 said: ND wasn't fantastic against Ball State but they didn't barely win. Wimbush is not the answer at qb and I'll say that until proven otherwise. Of the other 9 teams ranked in the Top 10. How many of those would Ball State have played to a single score margin? Better yet, how many of the current Top 25 would allow Ball State to play them that closely? Let's take it even further, of the 10+ teams on the bubble for a Top 25 ranking, how many would Ball State play to a one score margin? In my opinion, ND was the biggest loser this week and not worthy of Top 10 recognition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: Of the other 9 teams ranked in the Top 10. How many of those would Ball State have played to a single score margin? Better yet, how many of the current Top 25 would allow Ball State to play them that closely? Let's take it even further, of the 10+ teams on the bubble for a Top 25 ranking, how many would Ball State play to a one score margin? In my opinion, ND was the biggest loser this week and not worthy of Top 10 recognition. We'll have to see how the season plays out. Ball St could get peter rolled the rest of the season or they could go and win their conference. I bet you didn't think FSU would be in a game with Samford going into the 4th qrt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, nptb17 said: We'll have to see how the season plays out. Ball St could get peter rolled the rest of the season or they could go and win their conference. I bet you didn't think FSU would be in a game with Samford going into the 4th qrt. Actually I did. I won $50 on that game. The difference is FSU is not ranked after that poor showing. ND is still ranked #8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, CCBlackhatter said: Actually I did. I won $50 on that game. The difference is FSU is not ranked after that poor showing. ND is still ranked #8. ND was never losing and never in any danger of losing. ND was up by 3 scores for 80 percent of the game. Like I said they weren't fantastic but it definitely wasn't in the top of the worse performances by a ranked team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 58 minutes ago, nptb17 said: ND was never losing and never in any danger of losing. ND was up by 3 scores for 80 percent of the game. Like I said they weren't fantastic but it definitely wasn't in the top of the worse performances by a ranked team. Correction: ND only led by 3 scores for a total of 5 minutes. That is not 80% of the game. It was a one score game at half time, and a one score game when it ended. No shit they weren't fantastic. They weren't even mediocre. At best, it was the 2nd for worst performance by a ranked team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 6 hours ago, CCBlackhatter said: Correction: ND only led by 3 scores for a total of 5 minutes. That is not 80% of the game. It was a one score game at half time, and a one score game when it ended. No shit they weren't fantastic. They weren't even mediocre. At best, it was the 2nd for worst performance by a ranked team. Wrong, the ND defense solid all game. They played conservative on defense the entire 4th allowing Ball St eat up time that they didn't really have. UF which was ranked got taken out back by Kentucky. USC Trojans were taken to the woodshed by Stanford. USC mustered up a whole 3 points. South Carolina which was also ranked was taken out back by UGA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prepsbill65 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 The team of the Week: Hats off to the Kentucky Wildcats. It took 32 YEARS...but they FINALLY beat Florida, and ON THE ROAD as well. Let's have a little love here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, nptb17 said: Wrong, the ND defense solid all game. They played conservative on defense the entire 4th allowing Ball St eat up time that they didn't really have. UF which was ranked got taken out back by Kentucky. USC Trojans were taken to the woodshed by Stanford. USC mustered up a whole 3 points. South Carolina which was also ranked was taken out back by UGA. Don't be blinded my friend. The ND defense should have shut Ball State out if they were truly Top 10. ND was outgained in yardage and ToP. The largest lead was 18 points for a 5 minute span (which you lied about). That was easily the 2nd worst performance by a ranked team. Unlike ND, South Carolina had to play the #3 team in the country. USC played a Top 10 team, and Kentucky is a much better team than Ball State. Notre Dame has no defense for their shitty performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: Don't be blinded my friend. The ND defense should have shut Ball State out if they were truly Top 10. ND was outgained in yardage and ToP. The largest lead was 18 points for a 5 minute span (which you lied about). That was easily the 2nd worst performance by a ranked team. Unlike ND, South Carolina had to play the #3 team in the country. USC played a Top 10 team, and Kentucky is a much better team than Ball State. Notre Dame has no defense for their shitty performance. Kentucky was in a dog fight with Central Michigan. Yes the same Central Michigan that just lost at home to Kansas. Do I need to break down Kansas'? Stanford is coming to South Bend in a few weeks. We are going to see where they are at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted September 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, nptb17 said: Kentucky was in a dog fight with Central Michigan. Yes the same Central Michigan that just lost at home to Kansas. Do I need to break down Kansas'? Stanford is coming to South Bend in a few weeks. We are going to see where they are at. So Kentucky was in a dog fight, but you don't consider the shit show with Ball State a dog fight? C. Michigan had one good 2nd quarter to make the game closer than it really was. Again, Kentucky is not the #8 ranked team in the country dog fighting with nobodies. Face it man, you aren't going to win this argument despite the angle you take. Call the spade a spade and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 16 hours ago, CCBlackhatter said: We all like to follow and critique the various HSFB ranking services, and for most the same is true for college football. Personally, I think it makes for good discussion. I took a peek at this week's college rankings and I noticed several wtf's (mostly near the bottom of the Top 25) that I would like to hear other's thoughts on. I'll list a few of them here: #8 ND #21 Miami #23 Arizona St. #25 Michigan State Obv only beating ball state by I believe single digits is not a good look for Notre dame and certainly not the look of a top 10 team in the country How Miami is still a top 25 team....that will make you scratch your head Az state little low Msu if they were right outside top 25 i would be ok with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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