DevilDog Posted November 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 16 hours ago, Champa said: Scanning over the brackets, I hope we get Ryan/Highland Park and Westfield/Duncanville. WF might have their hands full with Klein Collins though. A real shame Carthage and Gilmer are in the same region. Afraid the 4AD2 playoffs are going to be the most uninteresting thing ever this year. Both Gilmer and Carthage would be a threat to win either 5A divisions this year. Look at Midlothian Heritage and Argyle 4A powers dominating 5A and Liberty Hill in their 3rd year in 5A. Carthage with that defense vs that QB from Gilmer will be huge. Remember Carthage beat 5A Crosby 2hrs ago with 5 JV players due to Covid. Crosby was top 5 in 5A. HP been kicking 6A ass all year in their 1st year from 5A. Interesting to see how far they go. Argyle is mudstomping 5A. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champa Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just seen Longview and Lancaster are in the same region as well. I can see a rematch happening. Guyer definitely has some tough teams to go through, but they can do it. Best team in the state. Watch me jinx them now with that. This could finally be FB Marshall's year. No more Aledo in their way. As long as they don't run into some big physical team that can control the tempo of the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted November 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, Champa said: Just seen Longview and Lancaster are in the same region as well. I can see a rematch happening. Guyer definitely has some tough teams to go through, but they can do it. Best team in the state. Watch me jinx them now with that. This could finally be FB Marshall's year. No more Aledo in their way. As long as they don't run into some big physical team that can control the tempo of the game. 4 of the top 10 teams in 5ADII were 4A powers last year and not one of them won State. But were really good in 4A. Liberty Hill has been top 10 in 5A all 3yrs they moved up and played SOC for the Championship in their 2nd year and was 1 game away their 1st year.. that's really 5 4A type teams. Carthage dominated 5A Marshall on the road more than Lobo did a few weeks before. 4A Stephenville beat Midlothian Heritage 49 -42. Their only loss. Some good 5A Football in Midlothian.. Rank School (Record) Week 11 LW 1 Argyle (10-0) W: Carrollton Creekview, 50-24 1 2 Fort Bend Marshall (9-1) W: Dayton, 52-21 2 3 Liberty Hill (9-1) W: San Antonio Pieper, 47-7 3 4 Grapevine (9-1) W: Fort Worth Trimble Tech, 56-0 4 5 Montgomery Lake Creek (10-0) W: Brenham, 54-42 5 6 Midlothian Heritage (9-1) W: Everman, 35-34 6 7 San Antonio Alamo Heights (9-1) W: San Antonio Sam Houston, 57-6 7 8 South Oak Cliff (7-3) W: Dallas Wilson, 38-10 8 9 Melissa (8-2) W: Lucas Lovejoy, 36-35 NR 10 Austin LBJ (8-2) W: Austin Crockett, 49-0 NR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted November 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 5AD1 Final rankings. If you think this DIV is head and shoulders over 5ADII. #3 Aledo lost to Parish Episcopal who lost to SOC and barely beat 4A power China Spring. College Station lost 52 - 27 to 5ADII Lovejoy. Argyle Smoked them and Melissa knocked them out of top 10 LW. Melissa beat 4A China Spring at home 42 - 41. 😁 Rank School (Record) Week 11 LW 1 Longview (10-0) W: West Mesquite, 70-0 1 2 Mansfield Timberview (10-0) W: Dallas Adams, 65-6 2 3 Aledo (8-2) W: Fort Worth Brewer, 47-6 3 4 Lancaster (8-2) W: Lufkin, 28-20 4 5 Midlothian (10-0) W: Red Oak, 56-28 5 6 Amarillo Tascosa (9-1) W: Lubbock Coronado, 35-14 6 7 Frisco Reedy (10-0) Idle 7 8 PSJA North (10-0) W: Rio Grande City, 57-0 8 9 Smithson Valley (8-1) W: Seguin, 56-17 9 10 College Station (8-2) W: Pflugerville Hendrickson, 42-14 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Champa said: Just seen Longview and Lancaster are in the same region as well. I can see a rematch happening. Guyer definitely has some tough teams to go through, but they can do it. Best team in the state. Watch me jinx them now with that. This could finally be FB Marshall's year. No more Aledo in their way. As long as they don't run into some big physical team that can control the tempo of the game. That team would be Argyle in regards to FB Marshall. Which is kinda scary because they usually sling it around a bit more. Now they're more run-heavy with some pretty good RBs. I swear Rodgers can turn anything to Gold in that area...Until they run into a team that can match them in the trenches...which not many in 5A D-II can. As for Guyer's road...A little pest from the past called SLC is lurking. They should handle Highland Park (This isn't those Ryan teams from "those years"...Guyer has depth with their talent). Byron Nelson has also been a Thorn in Guyer's side historically should they somehow make it that far... It won't be as easy for them as it looks...All that said...It's Guyer's region to lose. Longview will destroy Lancaster...Guyer had thier way with Lancaster up front and Longview is waaay more physical in the trenches. It SHOULDN'T be close...unless Longview's "History" returns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Champa said: Guyer definitely has some tough teams to go through, but they can do it. Best team in the state. Watch me jinx them now with that. Guyer's path to the finals is pretty weak outside of having to play SLC. They'll face Katy in the finals. Which is a good opponent as well The top teams are in 6A 1(Duncanville, NS, Westlake) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 It's almost that time of year again. Can't wait for some Texan to tell me that Melissa or Karen or whatever school named after a chick is "legit" or "salty" or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Frosty4024 said: https://dentonrc.com/sports/high_schools/ryan_raiders/highly-touted-ryan-linebacker-anthony-hill-decommits-from-texas-a-m/article_a8d3f3cb-a6f4-562b-8c3a-de95362b96c2.html Ouch...JaTavion Sanders is probably in his coaches ear right about now. @Horsefly @DevilDog UT will grab him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Guyer's path to the finals is pretty weak outside of having to play SLC. They'll face Katy in the finals. Which is a good opponent as well The top teams are in 6A 1(Duncanville, NS, Westlake) Actually their path is the strongest overall: HP, Byron nelson, SLC, Desoto, Katy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Actually their path is the strongest overall: HP, Byron nelson, SLC, Desoto, Katy None of these teams put any fear into a legit team HP cmon Byron Nelson Desoto(Just got destroyed by Duncanville) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: None of these teams put any fear into a legit team HP cmon Byron Nelson Desoto(Just got destroyed by Duncanville) This SLC team isn't even as good as last years team that was destroyed by Duncanville too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, steeler01 said: None of these teams put any fear into a legit team HP cmon Byron Nelson Desoto(Just got destroyed by Duncanville) All of the ones listed are top 25. You look at DVs potential line of opponents some of them are much weaker than Desoto and HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: All of the ones listed are top 25. You look at DVs potential line of opponents some of them are much weaker than Desoto and HP A top 25 team means nothing. What actual chance(Percentage wise)does a team like Byron Nelson, Highland Park, and Desoto have of beating a top 4 Texas team? In other words NS Duncanville Westlake Guyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, steeler01 said: A top 25 team means nothing. What actual chance(Percentage wise)does a team like Byron Nelson, Highland Park, and Desoto have of beating a top 4 Texas team? In other words NS Duncanville Westlake Guyer I'll make it top 5 and add Katy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: A top 25 team means nothing. What actual chance(Percentage wise)does a team like Byron Nelson, Highland Park, and Desoto have of beating a top 4 Texas team? In other words NS Duncanville Westlake Guyer Desoto vs the only top 5 team in Texas they played. They also played SFA and were brutally beaten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: All of the ones listed are top 25. You look at DVs potential line of opponents some of them are much weaker than Desoto and HP Yes, and I don't think I'm claiming they have a tough path either. Duncanville only has the final opponent NS will have Atascocita(Their offense sucks) and Westlake before playing Duncanville. Westlake will have NS and Duncanville Atascocita will have NS, Westlake, and Duncanville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: A top 25 team means nothing. What actual chance(Percentage wise)does a team like Byron Nelson, Highland Park, and Desoto have of beating a top 4 Texas team? In other words NS Duncanville Westlake Guyer It means something in the overall strength of their path relative to everyone else. Upsets can happen if injuries become an issue: BN, SLC, Desoto can all beat Guyer if they have a key hiccups, they’re not deep. I think katy will beat them regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: BN, SLC, Desoto can all beat Guyer if they have a key hiccups, they’re not deep. I think katy will beat them regardless BN no chance SLC maybe, but this SLC team is weak. Desoto is very average along the LOS. I've watched them 3 times this year, and they're undisciplined and underwhelming. Katy is easily the best team they'll face. I haven't watched them, but they're always well coached and good along the LOS. Should be a good championship game if they meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, steeler01 said: Yes, and I don't think I'm claiming they have a tough path either. Duncanville only has the final opponent NS will have Atascocita(Their offense sucks) and Westlake before playing Duncanville. Westlake will have NS and Duncanville Atascocita will have NS, Westlake, and Duncanville I’m not arguing for WL, NS, DV, I don’t think these teams have the harder path, Guyer does, from week 2 on. Atascocita will not realistically win anything so I’m not including them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: BN no chance SLC maybe, but this SLC team is weak. Desoto is very average along the LOS. I've watched them 3 times this year, and they're undisciplined and underwhelming. Katy is easily the best team they'll face. I haven't watched them, but they're always well coached and good along the LOS. Should be a good championship game if they meet. BN almost beast Guyer last year in round 3. Let Jackson Arnold get hurt or is hobbled, Guyer crashes quickly. They’re the team least able to absorb injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: I’m not arguing for WL, NS, DV, I don’t think these teams have the harder path, Guyer does, from week 2 on. Atascocita will not realistically win anything so I’m not including them. I think NS and Westlake have harder paths. The teams they must beat in consecutive weeks are much tougher than Guyer's path. I liken it to how people claim SJB doesn't challenge themselves by playing Good Counsel. Guyer playing Byrson Nelson is like that. Solid instate team, but not a real threat to a top team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: BN almost beast Guyer last year in round 3. Let Jackson Arnold get hurt or is hobbled, Guyer crashes quickly. They’re the team least able to absorb injuries. Last year Allen beat Guyer too. Things change in one year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, steeler01 said: I think NS and Westlake have harder paths. The teams they must beat in consecutive weeks are much tougher than Guyer's path. I liken it to how people claim SJB doesn't challenge themselves by playing Good Counsel. Guyer playing Byrson Nelson is like that. Solid instate team, but not a real threat to a top team. Each of the teams do 1 thing well that will challenge Guyer. HP: disciplined. BN: passing game will test secondary. SL: run game better than last years, good RB behind big OL Desoto: athleticism Katy: overall execution, misdirection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Last year Allen beat Guyer too. Things change in one year But we know what Guyer was dealing with the week of the Allen game.you and I have discussed it NS has the strongest potential round 4-6, but prior to that is very average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Each of the teams do 1 thing well that will challenge Guyer. HP: disciplined. BN: passing game will test secondary. SL: run game better than last years, good RB behind big OL Desoto: athleticism Katy: overall execution, misdirection All get beaten by 14+ points. SLC and Katy are their true competition. I think playing Westlake/NS and Duncanville in the final is much tougher. All 3 of those teams would easily dispatch the aforementioned teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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