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This thread is dedicated to reposting Texas guys mocking other schools for getting transfers, and/or claiming Allen and other Texas schools play with local kids.

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On 11/28/2018 at 7:16 AM, noonereal said:

The "gauntlet?" 

That ship sailed.... we see who Allen is playing. 

You guys always submit more as better. 

How would you grade your student who did that? That is how I grade you. 

Who Allen has played for the last 10 weeks, and for the next 3, assuming they keep winning, is out of their control. 

And one of the 3 they had control over was an OOS game.  Now that’s not good enough.  It’s has to be on the road, it needs to be against a recruited up private school, it’s got to be.......???  

It’s always something.. The bullshit never stops.

When it’s all said and done, Allen, North Shore, Katy, or whomever wins 6A D1 will have as good a resume as anyone else.  And all the bimbo’s in NJ can’t do a damn thing about it.

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Big win for Allen last night

Horsefly replied to noonereal's topic in Varsity Forum

The change allowed athletically motivated transfers . How convenient. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/11/new-transfer-rule-cif-to-allow-athletically-motivated-moves/amp/ this article called thetransfers from the new policy a boom! https://www.google.com/...
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you listed 2 schools with 4 transfers spanning a 3 yr period (2014-2016). Big deal! the article didn’t list contestedtransfers in the same period: in 2015 duncanville had 2 ratedtransfers from desoto, they were both denied and had to sit a year. In 2015 desoto had a 4* WR transfer..
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On 7/20/2018 at 8:11 PM, The Colonel said:

Are liberal transfer rules ruining Texas football?

Texas has similarly open transfer rules. While the state’s University Interscholastic League prohibits transfers purely for athletic reasons, very few athletes face a hearing before a district executive committee to determine whether the transfer was legitimate.

Not surprisingly, the top teams in Texas — like the top teams in other states –often end up with the most talented transfers. Allen is already the largest school in the state and the Eagles, while compiling a 57-game win streak that ended last season, relied on three quarterbacks who began their high school careers elsewhere: Kyler Murray; Seth Green; and Mitchell Jonke.

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Shawn Robinson transferred in last season to help DeSoto win a state title (Photo: John Glaser/texashsfootball.com)

That’s hardly new in the Lone Star state. The 2017 state champion, DeSoto, won its first title with quarterback Shawn Robinson, who was on his third school (he played at Chisholm Trail in Fort Worth as a freshman and Denton Guyer as a sophomore and junior). He beat out quarterback Jaylin Nelson, who had transferred to DeSoto from First Baptist. When Nelson lost the starting job to Robinson before the 2015 season, he transferred to Duncanville....

Not even close, this article is garbage. 

In in order for a varsity player to transfer to another school the losing school has to sign off in the Previous Athletic Participation Form, on it the losing school notes if they believe the transfer is for athletic reasons. If it is, the District Executive Conmittee from the gaining district (consisting of rep from each school athletic district) reviews and signs off or denies the transfers. There have been many denied transfers, as such, the few that you listed over a 3-4 year span get approved. 

Green from Allen MOVED in from Minnesota, his parents still live in Allen. 

Shawn Robinson transferred to desoto bc his mother was hired as the schools Girls head BB coach.  And she’s very good.  

These are all one or two moves in a 3-4 year period. Unlike in socal where you get 4-5 rated transfers in one year to one school!  

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On 10/21/2018 at 5:13 PM, G0LD$tandard said:

Have you ever considered some parents prefer their kids attend the school of their choice? Private, Charter, etc.  Dunne is a choice,  not recruiting.  

If my kid can get a quality education and more “eyeballs” regarding his/her athletic talent I’ll put them where they’ll have the opportunity for the most success.

It’s the difference of going to Allen versus Preston Wood, JPII, or Jesuit.

Odessa versus Midland Christian.

Go where you can be seen over multiple years.

In some cases like minded parents do the same.  I get calls asking about Dunne from parents and when I provide my experience they normally make their inquiries and determine if it fits their situation for their kid and financially.  You keep throwing the pouching and recruiting card.  Speak let the globe know who was allegedly recruited.  Trust me Dunne doesn’t have that type of money to provide free rides.

Fallacy, “talented kids are going to be found no matter where they play”.  You have to be on the field to create tape.

Allen, Duncanville etc. has 6000+ kids.  11 start on offense, 11 on defense, I’ll give 22 more on special teams (not true) but for numbers sake there are second and in some cases third stringers who need to be seen to get an opportunity for scholarships.  Private schools also offer these opportunities.  Free education whether FCS, FBS, etc. provides opportunity!

Choice does t equal recruiting, it equals opportunity!

I agree with much of that.  But these kids having multiple offers woulda got those offers at any public they are zoned too.  Public’s send way more kids to college than privates. Kids have much better coaching, training, facilities, competition, and community support at the public’s (of course you have inner city Dallas and Fkrt Worth that are the exception).  The Dunne’s of the world can’t touch the majority of public schools.

The UIL also creates a level playing field, and keeps the game pure by not allowing that these privates from doing what they do.

And I’m convinced some of these schools could care less about the academic side of school, and just want to create a Texas like IMG.

Because those schools will never be in the UIL, and legitimized, they will never be on that level.

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I think the Texas posters don't want to believe that Texas has kept up with the current landscape of high school football across the country. 

Transfers are bigger now than at any point, and players want to get as much exposure, instant success and gratification. 

Texans have always looked at Texas HSFB as the holy grail that was pure to its core. That it was about pride, community, and tradition. That may be true for the drive thru towns, but for the big dogs, it's big business and coaches need to justify $150K a year salaries. It's not your grand daddies football. 

Transfers have caught fire in Texas and it ls only gonna get bigger. Stay tuned 

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8 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

I think the Texas posters don't want to believe that Texas has kept up with the current landscape of high school football across the country. 

Transfers are bigger now than at any point, and players want to get as much exposure, instant success and gratification. 

Texans have always looked at Texas HSFB as the holy grail that was pure to its core. That it was about pride, community, and tradition. That may be true for the drive thru towns, but for the big dogs, it's big business and coaches need to justify $150K a year salaries. It's not your grand daddies football. 

Transfers have caught fire in Texas and it ls only gonna get bigger. Stay tuned 

We could use some in Katy right now. Need to get back to the big game. 150K?  I'm in the wrong profession.

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1 hour ago, Sammyswordsman said:

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Not even close, this article is garbage. 

In in order for a varsity player to transfer to another school the losing school has to sign off in the Previous Athletic Participation Form, on it the losing school notes if they believe the transfer is for athletic reasons. If it is, the District Executive Conmittee from the gaining district (consisting of rep from each school athletic district) reviews and signs off or denies the transfers. There have been many denied transfers, as such, the few that you listed over a 3-4 year span get approved. 

Green from Allen MOVED in from Minnesota, his parents still live in Allen. 

Shawn Robinson transferred to desoto bc his mother was hired as the schools Girls head BB coach.  And she’s very good.  

These are all one or two moves in a 3-4 year period. Unlike in socal where you get 4-5 rated transfers in one year to one school!  

 

 

Really? Only 3 or 4 transfers a year?  Here’s a little quote from a recent Dallas Morning News article appropriately titled Allen is where the best in the state aspire to play. But the football transfers are coming at a cost.”

 

“Dallas Morning News found that 74 football players -- including 30 from out of state -- transferred to Allen during the last five years, according to documents obtained from the school through open records requests. Last year's 16-0 Allen state championship team was led by four transfers who were top-100 recruits in the state.

As a result, playing time can sometimes be hard to come by at a school with nearly 500 football players.”

 

74 transfers in 5 years = Almost 15 per year......LOL!

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