HSFBfan Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 To Ottos parents. Now obv money doesnt bring otto back from the dead but it's some kind of justice https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/world/north-korea-must-pay-501-million-to-otto-warmbiers-parents-judge-rules.amp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 They are not going to get any money. Not sure why you would think they would. Guess it is a nice try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, HSFBfan said: To Ottos parents. Now obv money doesnt bring otto back from the dead but it's some kind of justice https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/world/north-korea-must-pay-501-million-to-otto-warmbiers-parents-judge-rules.amp And how do you think such a judgment can be enforced? It's not like they have any substantial assets here like some countries do. This will end up being an unenforceable judgment in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 39 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: And how do you think such a judgment can be enforced? It's not like they have any substantial assets here like some countries do. This will end up being an unenforceable judgment in my opinion. More than likely your right but it's the principle of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 hours ago, HSFBfan said: More than likely your right but it's the principle of it Moral victories may make you feel good. But they don't put bread on the table. The only way they get something is if the USA and NK pursue further normalization. Things seem to have stalled on that front, so I don't expect anything comes of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: Moral victories may make you feel good. But they don't put bread on the table. The only way they get something is if the USA and NK pursue further normalization. Things seem to have stalled on that front, so I don't expect anything comes of this. Trump came out today and said there is another meeting in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Obama really put in a nice effort getting that kid back. But he exchanges 5 gitmo terrorists for a deserter. But libs will defend it and Obama’s payments to Iran because he was good at reading a Teleprompter and filled out a March madness bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Trump came out today and said there is another meeting in the works. We will see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Just now, DarterBlue said: We will see what happens. Of course. Isnt that life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Of course. Isnt that life Yes. But you have a leg up if you are able to calculate, accurately, the likelihood of events happening. We may have a productive meeting with them, but I would not bet the house on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: Yes. But you have a leg up if you are able to calculate, accurately, the likelihood of events happening. We may have a productive meeting with them, but I would not bet the house on it. I dont anticipate anything. I wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: I dont anticipate anything. I wait and see To get ahead in life, markets and anything else, you need to be able to anticipate accurately. If you can't you will always be behind the proverbial eight ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Just now, DarterBlue said: To get ahead in life, markets and anything else, you need to be able to anticipate accurately. If you can't you will always be behind the proverbial eight ball. But than you overthink and that drives you to suicide. So better to sit back drink and go to bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 Just now, HSFBfan said: But than you overthink and that drives you to suicide. So better to sit back drink and go to bed You over think only if you can't balance anticipation with what's going on around you. Sitting back and drinking, while it has its place, is kind of a cop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: You over think only if you can't balance anticipation with what's going on around you. Sitting back and drinking, while it has its place, is kind of a cop out. Well yes but not everyone can balance anticipation and what's happening around u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Well yes but not everyone can balance anticipation and what's happening around u Then you have surrendered. I am not sure if you did so without trying or if you tried and concluded that you failed. It is never pleasing for me to see a young person surrender. By doing so, you have essentially allowed your future to be determined by circumstances. Young people should shape their own futures, not have others impose their version on them. That is what happens to slaves, not free individuals. It may feel good to blame society, others, whatever, but at the end of the day, it does you no good. Sorry to put it so bluntly, but it is the truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 minute ago, DarterBlue said: Then you have surrendered. I am not sure if you did so without trying or if you tried and concluded that you failed. It is never pleasing for me to see a young person surrender. By doing so, you have essentially allowed your future to be determined by circumstances. Young people should shape their own futures, not have others impose their version on them. That is what happens to slaves, not free individuals. It may feel good to blame society, others, whatever, but at the end of the day, it does you no good. Sorry to put it so bluntly, but it is the truth! I dont think you should blame society but to fight society everyday is a little crazy. It's funny they say follow your dreams but if your dream isnt lucrative than you'll be broke. So you have to abandon your dreams to do whatever society pays and have a living. What about the people who have no dreams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: I dont think you should blame society but to fight society everyday is a little crazy. It's funny they say follow your dreams but if your dream isnt lucrative than you'll be broke. So you have to abandon your dreams to do whatever society pays and have a living. What about the people who have no dreams? If you don't wish to fight society, then learn to use society to your advantage. There are ways to do that. To have no dreams is to not be truly alive. So, you are right; if your dreams are not lucrative, you will not get rich. But it is okay to not get rich if you can enrich your life with meaningful relationships and experiences. That said, you still need enough to live on. So the trick is to at least find a way to get enough to take care of the essentials while trying to find meaning in your own life. Don't let others define what and where that meaning is. Do what makes you feel satisfied while being ever aware you need to make enough to take care of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: If you don't wish to fight society, then learn to use society to your advantage. There are ways to do that. To have no dreams is to not be truly alive. So, you are right; if your dreams are not lucrative, you will not get rich. But it is okay to not get rich if you can enrich your life with meaningful relationships and experiences. That said, you still need enough to live on. So the trick is to at least find a way to get enough to take care of the essentials while trying to find meaning in your own life. Don't let others define what and where that meaning is. Do what makes you feel satisfied while being ever aware you need to make enough to take care of you. No let's say your dreams pay you absolutely nothing but at least your following your dreams right. Let say you like to paint but your not a known artist so u make no money. Should you give up your dream of painting? What if just sitting around watching TV is satisfying? Is that ok? What if thats your dream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: No let's say your dreams pay you absolutely nothing but at least your following your dreams right. Let say you like to paint but your not a known artist so u make no money. Should you give up your dream of painting? What if just sitting around watching TV is satisfying? Is that ok? What if thats your dream? The first is a dream and presents an interesting conundrum. If you are truly passionate about painting, then that dream should be followed even if you have to sell the portraits in the park for food money. For to not do so, would be your literal death. Many artists who lived in obscurity during life but became famous in death were victims of this. The second is not a dream. It is a cop out. At that stage you are just a bum. You may as well beg and buy lotto tickets with the proceeds hoping to score the prize that will allow you to be a bum. But in the end, you will find that you have wasted your life and I can guarantee you, that you will not be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: The first is a dream and presents an interesting conundrum. If you are truly passionate about painting, then that dream should be followed even if you have to sell the portraits in the park for food money. For to not do so, would be your literal death. Many artists who lived in obscurity during life but became famous in death were victims of this. The second is not a dream. It is a cop out. At that stage you are just a bum. You may as well beg and buy lotto tickets with the proceeds hoping to score the prize that will allow you to be a bum. But in the end, you will find that you have wasted your life and I can guarantee you, that you will not be happy The only difference btw the 2 scenarios so that the top person is at least following a real dream even though they are broke while the 2nd guy has literally given up to not do anything in life again while the 1st guy is fulfilling himself with art. But that's always the conundrum.....how can you follow your dream if it doesnt pay anything. Arent you then not contributing to society? You cant tell someone to follow their dream but than say to them no that dream doesnt work because in this world you wont succeed. Isnt following a dream success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 6 hours ago, DarterBlue said: And how do you think such a judgment can be enforced? he does not even know what this means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 16 hours ago, HSFBfan said: No let's say your dreams pay you absolutely nothing but at least your following your dreams right. Let say you like to paint but your not a known artist so u make no money. Should you give up your dream of painting? What if just sitting around watching TV is satisfying? Is that ok? What if thats your dream? You don't have to be a known artist at all to make money....all you have do is be very very good... pretty much anything in life is like that... if you are the best at what you do, the world will beat a path to your door.... In a rich town, some of the richest ones have jobs you wouldn't think would get you rich... just gotta be really good at it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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