RedZone Posted March 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 ...reasonable and educated people taking positive action. I salute New Zealand! Meanwhile, back in dumbass hillbilly America........fill in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 4:35 PM, Horsefly said: The purpose is to create road blocks to easy access Kinda like a more comprehensive barrier on our Southern border. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted March 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, concha said: Kinda like a more comprehensive barrier on our Southern border. Since 2007, the U.S. has spent $9.7 billion on border barrier construction, almost entirely at the Southwest border. How many new gun laws since 2007, crying concha?...... Feakin idiot.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 52 minutes ago, concha said: Kinda like a more comprehensive barrier on our Southern border. Not really. Gun restrictions costs very little, building a wall costs a lot. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2019/01/08/analysis-economists-say-border-wall-is-a-waste-of-money/amp/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted March 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 crying concha's "marlboro logic" is amusing.. Throw another 10 billion "new dollars" on a border wall and keep mass-producing AR-15s and live by caveman club laws......it's IN the Constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Not really. Gun restrictions costs very little, building a wall costs a lot. Debatable as the same could have been said for Prohibition. Have you seen how we're now having to release illegal aliens due to inadequate capacity? A country unwilling to control its own border is just a destination. But that's what the Pro Sanctuary Who Cares About Actual American Citizens Party wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted March 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 .....50 people mowed down, New Zealand make a positive change and at least addresses the issue right or wrong, and crying concha interjects the Southern Border of the United States into the conversation. Welcome to your kellyanne conway memebership card.... Jesus Christ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, concha said: Debatable as the same could have been said for Prohibition. Have you seen how we're now having to release illegal aliens due to inadequate capacity? A country unwilling to control its own border is just a destination. But that's what the Pro Sanctuary Who Cares About Actual American Citizens Party wants. Again, disincentivize them from crossing and they won’t come. The wall is not a quick fix, controlling their labor is. Back to the topic. NZ is taking steps about gun control...good for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Again, disincentivize them from crossing and they won’t come. The wall is not a quick fix, controlling their labor is. Back to the topic. NZ is taking steps about gun control...good for them. Well, the bad guy is getting what he wants. NZ, a very homogeneous and isolated island nation with no nearby or bordering nation with drug cartels and gangs like MS-13, might see some results. Especially given that this stuff is so rare there to begin with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, concha said: Well, the bad guy is getting what he wants. NZ, a very homogeneous and isolated island nation with no nearby or bordering nation with drug cartels and gangs like MS-13, might see some results. Especially given that this stuff is so rare there to begin with. Please, we are being played. Immigrants from El Salvador, Guatemala and Mexico sent over $120B home to those countries in the last decade. Congress proposed taxing those $$...the bill didn’t pass Those countries have no incentive to control immigrants from those countries as they benefit greatly, and our leadership allows it to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Please, we are being played. Immigrants from El Salvador, Guatemala and Mexico sent over $120B home to those countries in the last decade. Congress proposed taxing those $$...the bill didn’t pass Those countries have no incentive to control immigrants from those countries as they benefit greatly, and our leadership allows it to happen. I know. Improved border security plus penalties for illegal hiring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, concha said: I know. Improved border security plus penalties for illegal hiring. Had congress taxed those payments, they’d have the $$ to do whatever they wanted with border security instead of asking the public to foot the bill. A 10% tax over the last decade would have yielded $12B to flow back to border security projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Had congress taxed those payments, they’d have the $$ to do whatever they wanted with border security instead of asking the public to foot the bill. A 10% tax over the last decade would have yielded $12B to flow back to border security projects. I am all for taxation of remittances. Washington DC is the Swamp, or Mordor-on-the-Potomac. It is a cesspool of lobbying, bribery and self-aggrandizement. Establishment Republicans are as bad as the Dems. That said, let's be honest about it. It's not the money. The money is a pittance. For the left, it's anti-Bad Orange Man and Future Dem Voters politics (I'd point to sanctuary cities and states here). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, concha said: I am all for taxation of remittances. Washington DC is the Swamp, or Mordor-on-the-Potomac. It is a cesspool of lobbying, bribery and self-aggrandizement. Establishment Republicans are as bad as the Dems. That said, let's be honest about it. It's not the money. The money is a pittance. For the left, it's anti-Bad Orange Man and Future Dem Voters politics (I'd point to sanctuary cities and states here). What about the right? Why not address these more direct issues? The optics of a wall sound and look impressive, but will be less effective. THEY have created a perfect ying and yang game where the end result will be business as usual as cheap labor is needed and wanted to feed capitalism’s greed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted March 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 I guess it IS a blessing crying concha did not go to his "US economy rant" in a New Zealand taking gun control action thread. Thank you God for that at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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