Omaha Vol Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: And that’s why they lose to Thompson and Hewit or some teams like that.. Thompson was legitimately better last year. Losing to Hewitt-Trussville like they did was an aberration. I believe the Bucs open up with Phenix City Central, so they aren’t playing a slappy right out of the gate either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 7:02 PM, Blueliner said: I cannot wait for this game! DLS will not be coming to the fight empty handed. Hale is going to break out this year. I personally think he’ll be maybe Tate Martell good when it’s all said and done (bold statement, I know). In the ballpark at least. Top 3 RBs return plus Berry coming up from JV. [...] What's the 411 on Berry? Is he the RB I've been hearing good things about? I'm hoping the kid who was a sophomore last year (Mekhi?) will get more reps this year. I think he offers a nice contrast to Garrett: he's bigger and more physical. Coby's quick, but like Garrett, he's small and didn't seem to get a lot of yards after contact. Coby and Garrett seemed like the same back to me: they're at their best in the open field. I don't expect STA to give DLS's backs too many opportunities to make a play in the open field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: That's what I'm hoping for. STA seems to underachieve more than any other high profile team. They have an excellent record against OOS teams and almost always have the guys to play with anyone in the country, but sometimes they don't quite show up or are missing a key piece of the puzzle (or both). I think DLS will be able to do more on offense than they have in the recent past, because of their QB and their position players, but I think that defense is going to take a step back this year. And going by 247sports, the gap in individual talent between the two teams is significant and should be hard for DLS to overcome. DLS will have to open up the play book and STA will have to play below their talent in order for DLS to squeak out a win at home. Sounds about right to me. The stars will need to align. Good take, BB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: What's the 411 on Berry? Is he the RB I've been hearing good things about? I'm hoping the kid who was a sophomore last year (Mekhi?) will get more reps this year. I think he offers a nice contrast to Garrett: he's bigger and more physical. Coby's quick, but like Garrett, he's small and didn't seem to get a lot of yards after contact. Coby and Garrett seemed like the same back to me: they're at their best in the open field. I don't expect STA to give DLS's backs too many opportunities to make a play in the open field. Berry looks good. But, for now, he’s kinda on the mold of Garrett and Coby. Only a sophomore, tho. If he fills out, watch out. Man among boys as a freshman playing on JV. Mekhi Norfleet is s much bigger/physical RB. He’s going to he in the 6-0 195-200 range as a junior. Heralded coming out of youth leagues. Great pedigree in that family too. Interesting that you mention “open field” about Garrett and Coby. I think that we’ll see these guys in the slot this year. Why? Both, especially Garrett, received high praise from coaches regarding their ability to catch passes during camps this offseason. With Daley and Hearns as the every down wideouts, that could open up some room in the slot for Garrett and Coby. With Hale as a junior, this should be DLS’s most dynamic passing attack that we’ve seen in awhile...maybe ever. Hopefully, successful passing will translate to making it tougher for STA to account for the veer. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 Mighta gotten blown up though if it was full go. Strong catch nonetheless. Daley (6-2 185) has one offer from UC Davis. He’ll get more. This kid’s a stud. STA, unfortunately, will have 4 guys like him☹️ ....and also Garrett received offers from Sac State and San Jose State over the past week. He’ll get more as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Blueliner said: Berry looks good. But, for now, he’s kinda on the mold of Garrett and Coby. Only a sophomore, tho. If he fills out, watch out. Man among boys as a freshman playing on JV. Mekhi Norfleet is s much bigger/physical RB. He’s going to he in the 6-0 195-200 range as a junior. Heralded coming out of youth leagues. Great pedigree in that family too. Interesting that you mention “open field” about Garrett and Coby. I think that we’ll see these guys in the slot this year. Why? Both, especially Garrett, received high praise from coaches regarding their ability to catch passes during camps this offseason. With Daley and Hearns as the every down wideouts, that could open up some room in the slot for Garrett and Coby. With Hale as a junior, this should be DLS’s most dynamic passing attack that we’ve seen in awhile...maybe ever. Hopefully, successful passing will translate to making it tougher for STA to account for the veer. Thoughts? It can't hurt, but STA will have all summer to prepare for the veer. With that amount of time and their personnel, they should be able to create all sorts of problems for the veer, even if they have to respect the pass. Who knows, but I'm thinking that DLS is going to struggle to move the ball on the ground. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: It can't hurt, but STA will have all summer to prepare for the veer. With that amount of time and their personnel, they should be able to create all sorts of problems for the veer, even if they have to respect the pass. Who knows, but I'm thinking that DLS is going to struggle to move the ball on the ground. I agree. STA’s defensive personnel are going to be tough on Sparty. Even Folsom did well against DLS with all summer to prepare. This is just a flat out tough first game. Jeez coach! 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, Blueliner said: [...] ....and also Garrett received offers from Sac State and San Jose State over the past week. He’ll get more as well. I don't know whether you saw or whether you put any stock in such things, but someone (Maxpreps?) selected Garrett for their All-Combine Team (or whatever they called it.) He was invited to that combine that is associated with the Army-All American game. They said he stood out among running backs for, among other things, his hands. So, that fits nicely with your thought that we might see him running routes against STA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted May 17, 2019 Report Share Posted May 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Blueliner said: I agree. STA’s defensive personnel are going to be tough on Sparty. Even Folsom did well against DLS with all summer to prepare. This is just a flat out tough first game. Jeez coach! 🤣 I like the idea (I'm not sure who said it, but I read it on this forum) that such a tough first game will give DLS an excellent reason to work hard over the summer. And if they can keep it close against a team like STA, it should give them confidence going into the Open, assuming they make it there. Losing convincingly for three straight seasons has to have a negative effect on the psychology of some of the players. So, I think it's certainly a risk, but a calculated one. It might very well pay off for DLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: Thompson was legitimately better last year. Losing to Hewitt-Trussville like they did was an aberration. I believe the Bucs open up with Phenix City Central, so they aren’t playing a slappy right out of the gate either. SOLID team last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliNorth Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Drummer61 said: tSTA lost that first game due to arrogance, overconfidence and Bosco s resolve to never give up.....Bosco special teams won that game as did the coaching of Toal... Special teams, no doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLS_Spartan Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 6 hours ago, 954gator said: Serious question...How will DLS cover this guy? 😂 The same way they stopped the future NFLer Ngata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Belly Bob said: I like the idea (I'm not sure who said it, but I read it on this forum) that such a tough first game will give DLS an excellent reason to work hard over the summer. And if they can keep it close against a team like STA, it should give them confidence going into the Open, assuming they make it there. Losing convincingly for three straight seasons has to have a negative effect on the psychology of some of the players. So, I think it's certainly a risk, but a calculated one. It might very well pay off for DLS. I'm gratified that someone remembered what I said. You are correct in that DLS will need to play a Tier 1 preseason to vet out their players and plays in order to compete in the SBG. Their regular season and playoffs won't tell the coaches anything about the kids. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: I'm gratified that someone remembered what I said. You are correct in that DLS will need to play a Tier 1 preseason to vet out their players and plays in order to compete in the SBG. Their regular season and playoffs won't tell the coaches anything about the kids. ‘Baugh was listening to ya also. He said the same thing...gotta play MD/SJB-caliber teams in order to compete for state! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 8 hours ago, DLS_Spartan said: The same way they stopped the future NFLer Ngata I dunno man that kid has 6 written all over him 😂. Anyways it was just a joke, I just thought that clip was funny seeing a DL running a skills drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 5/15/2019 at 6:24 PM, 954gator said: Don't get me wrong STA can play with anyone. Including teams maybe DLS might struggle with, but they can also lose a game vs a team they have no business losing too. If STA can lose to Cooper City and Archbishop Rummel can lose to Escambia anything is possible in HSFB. Sometimes the ball just doesn't go in the hoop whatever your name is. STA should win this game large, but you never know. It's cool they are playing again though. Need more rematches and less one-hit wonder OOS games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 The only thing I'm certain of is the DLS streak vs NorCal will be going strong when my grandkids graduate college. I'm years away from grandchildren. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLS_Spartan Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 5 hours ago, 954gator said: I dunno man that kid has 6 written all over him 😂. Anyways it was just a joke, I just thought that clip was funny seeing a DL running a skills drill. I know lol it’s funny to see those guys move so fast at 260 plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 Just thought I'd point something out in case it wasn't obvious: STA isn't playing DLS to try to get better and climb back to the top in Florida. Or, at least they'd be fools if that's why they were playing this game. There are absolutely ZERO teams STA may face that look anything like DLS. Totally different animals. Of course there are other reasons to play the game. But an honest discussion about reasons for playing this game should involve those other things, not the idea that DLS is going to somehow prep them for Lakeland or Columbia or Armwood or Miramar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 Maayybbee Venice a little, but still they are gun, up-tempo rather than veer etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 STA will stack the box, play man with their 4* corners and see if the young DLS QB can beat them. STA will be horrendous on offense (as usual). DLS won’t have much trouble here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: STA will stack the box, play man with their 4* corners and see if the young DLS QB can beat them. STA will be horrendous on offense (as usual). DLS won’t have much trouble here. Do you see a 3-0 type of game with STA kicking a fg for the win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 19 hours ago, Blueliner said: Berry looks good. But, for now, he’s kinda on the mold of Garrett and Coby. Only a sophomore, tho. If he fills out, watch out. Man among boys as a freshman playing on JV. Mekhi Norfleet is s much bigger/physical RB. He’s going to he in the 6-0 195-200 range as a junior. Heralded coming out of youth leagues. Great pedigree in that family too. Interesting that you mention “open field” about Garrett and Coby. I think that we’ll see these guys in the slot this year. Why? Both, especially Garrett, received high praise from coaches regarding their ability to catch passes during camps this offseason. With Daley and Hearns as the every down wideouts, that could open up some room in the slot for Garrett and Coby. With Hale as a junior, this should be DLS’s most dynamic passing attack that we’ve seen in awhile...maybe ever. Hopefully, successful passing will translate to making it tougher for STA to account for the veer. Thoughts? The little I saw of Berry, I was extremely impressed. He definitely was a man among boys on JV. As for the passing game, Hale will need to roll out to get the time to throw because a straight drop back won't work imo. HB and WR screens, play action roll out, etc. Don't like playing these games so early but playing them later didn't help DLS last time so who knows. Hope i can make it down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, World Citizen said: Do you see a 3-0 type of game with STA kicking a fg for the win? Nope. I see a DLS 21-7 win with DLS taking a knee to end the game. DLS should be a Tier above STA this year. DLS young QB has a good game 5-7 for 150 yards no int 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 58 minutes ago, World Citizen said: The little I saw of Berry, I was extremely impressed. He definitely was a man among boys on JV. As for the passing game, Hale will need to roll out to get the time to throw because a straight drop back won't work imo. HB and WR screens, play action roll out, etc. Don't like playing these games so early but playing them later didn't help DLS last time so who knows. Hope i can make it down. Berry is tall. But a little skinny still. Like I said, if he fills out...💪🙏 I agree with your assessment. There will be some drop backs, but Hale is a really good athlete with a strong/accurate arm. The coaches know it. He’s got other solid athletes to throw to. They’ll get him moving around a lot and delivering the rock from many formations trying to create space. Coaches say he’s got pretty much a mastery of the offense already. Just needs to get experience, and get bigger and stronger. The playbook will open up (and I’m sure more wrinkles will be added) as he progresses. This MAY be a DLS squad that we haven’t recognized before. Whatchu talkin’ ’bout, Willis!? You’d BETTER make it down. 😎 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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