NorCalRuss Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Hasn’t been a post in last few days on stocks, must be real bad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Horrible. I don’t know how we’ll survive. Hell, we’re still trying to recover from the hundreds of thousands of jobs created this year, 3.4% GDP growth, record unemployment in all categories. Oh, the humanity!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 The market is stagnant no doubt Russ. It just cant get up to it's high of January 2018. Not at all like the continual rise we saw year after year with the last administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 The market is up over 40% since Election Day 2016, and did not experience a crash before that. The Obama market did not rise continuously and took a very long time before it recovered its 2008 highs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 There's truth and there are lies. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/12/26/stock-market-performance-dow-under-every-president-past-100-years/38775295/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 The top 5 ever. If people get over that Petty Party B.S. they would judge people fairly. 5. Ronald Reagan • DJIA performance: +147.3 percent• Served from: Jan. 20, 1981 - Jan. 20, 1989• Months in office: 96• Party affiliation: Republican President Ronald Reagan was voted into the White House due in part to the widespread perception that his predecessor and political opponent, Jimmy Carter, had not done enough for the economy. An advocate for small government, Reagan cut taxes, social spending, and regulations on business, and increased military spending. Under Reagan's economic policies, the United States accumulated deficits and became a debtor nation for the first time since WWI. Less than half a year into Reagan's presidency, the U.S. economy slipped into a recession. A year later – before the recession officially ended – the Dow surged and, with one glaring exception, barely stopped to slow down for the remainder of Reagan's presidency. Despite the Black Monday crash of 1987, in which the Dow lost nearly 22 percent of its value in a single day, the Dow soared 147.3 percent under Reagan. 4. Barack Obama • DJIA performance: +148.3 percent• Served from: Jan. 20, 2009 - Jan. 20, 2017• Months in office: 96• Party affiliation: Democrat When Barack Obama took office in January 2009, the U.S. economy was in freefall. Reeling from the effects of the continuing recession that had begun under his predecessor, President Bush, the Dow fell more than 9 percent in Obama's first month in office. In the years to follow, the Dow climbed steadily as the economy began to slowly recover from the Great Recession. The most notable dip in the steadily climbing DJIA occured in the summer of 2011, halfway through Obama's first term. That July, the debt ceiling crisis exposed the severity of the political gridlock in Washington and prompted Standard & Poor's to downgrade the U.S. credit rating. Still, the longest economic recovery in U.S. history began during Obama's first term, and over the course of his presidency, the Dow surged by 148.3 percent. Franklin Roosevelt (Photo: Keystone / Getty Images) 3. Franklin D. Roosevelt • DJIA performance: +198.6 percent• Served from: March 4, 1933 - April 12, 1945• Months in office: 145• Party affiliation: Democrat President Franklin Roosevelt served as president longer than anyone in history. Elected to office four times, Roosevelt sat in the Oval Office for 145 months and presided over some of the most tumultuous times in American – and world – history. Taking office during the height of the Great Depression, Roosevelt began implementing his "New Deal" policies to turn the economy around. Unpopular with the business community, Roosevelt tightened finance regulation by creating the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and SEC as well as a pension system with the Social Security Act. Despite dipping at the outset of America's entrance to WWII, the Dow shot up by nearly 200 percent under Roosevelt. 2. William J. Clinton • DJIA performance: +228.9 percent• Served from: Jan. 20, 1993 - Jan. 20, 2001• Months in office: 96• Party affiliation: Democrat The DJIA skyrocketed by nearly 230 percent under President Bill Clinton. Over the course of Clinton's two terms – defined by nearly unprecedented peace and economic prosperity – the unemployment rate fell from about 7 percent to 4 percent, inflation dipped to its lowest level in 30 years, the government achieved a budget surplus, and the administration signed an agreement eliminating trade barriers between the United States, Canada, and Mexico. Within two months of Clinton's departure from office, the United States fell into a recession for the first time since George H.W. Bush was in office. Calvin Coolidge (Photo: Hulton Archive / Getty Images) 1. Calvin Coolidge • DJIA performance: +230.5 percent• Served from: Aug. 2, 1923 - March 4, 1929• Months in office: 67• Party affiliation: Republican President Calvin Coolidge presided over the largest gains in the Dow of any president since the end of WWI. Vice president to Warren Harding, Coolidge found himself in the Oval Office following Harding's sudden death in 1923. Coolidge cleaned up the widespread corruption of Harding's administration, cut income, gift, and inheritance taxes, reduced government spending, and adopted a pro-business posture. Coolidge served during a decade of unprecedented growth in wealth, consumerism, and urbanization that came to be known as the Roaring Twenties. Under Coolidge, the Dow shot up 230.5 percent. Just six months after Coolidge left office in March 1929, the United States slipped into an economic depression that wiped out all stock market gains accumulated during his presidency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Donald Trump (Photo: Jeff J Mitchell / Getty Images) 12. Donald J. Trump • DJIA performance: +19.2 percent• Served from: Jan. 20, 2017 - Present• Months in office: 23• Party affiliation: Republican Under President Donald Trump, the Dow topped 25,000 points for the first time in history. Investor confidence under Trump has been boosted by strong fundamental conditions and likely the president's pro-business agenda. The U.S. economy has added jobs in the last 98 consecutive months, and the unemployment rate now stands at 3.7 percent, the lowest level since the 1960s. However, in recent months, the stock market has been been markedly volatile. Following a selloff experts attribute to fears over escalating trade tensions with China and anticipated interest rate hikes, the Dow now stands below 24,000. Since Trump took office, the Dow has climbed by 19.2 percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Give Props where they are due. Regardless of Party. I'm happy under President Obama after the Bush debacle in 2008 my Stocks soared and under President Trump they have continued. Thanks to both of them for helping me get closer toward my Goals financial wise. Yet they are Polar Opposites. Which tells me people or Full of B.S. due to Some blind ass party allegiance. No I don't belong to either Party except what's best for me. Thanks Dude's from Gunny : Yet I have big differences with some agenda's from both. Trumps treatment of Minorities and Obama using the Military for social experiments are my biggest issues with both. But since they spurred my economic growth. Damn any brown person that wants to immigrate and so what if two male sailors can now kiss in the B.X. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 minute ago, DevilDog said: Donald Trump (Photo: Jeff J Mitchell / Getty Images) 12. Donald J. Trump • DJIA performance: +19.2 percent• Served from: Jan. 20, 2017 - Present• Months in office: 23• Party affiliation: Republican Under President Donald Trump, the Dow topped 25,000 points for the first time in history. Investor confidence under Trump has been boosted by strong fundamental conditions and likely the president's pro-business agenda. The U.S. economy has added jobs in the last 98 consecutive months, and the unemployment rate now stands at 3.7 percent, the lowest level since the 1960s. However, in recent months, the stock market has been been markedly volatile. Following a selloff experts attribute to fears over escalating trade tensions with China and anticipated interest rate hikes, the Dow now stands below 24,000. Since Trump took office, the Dow has climbed by 19.2 percent. The Dow surged in the 2 months after Trump’s election before inauguration. Also Obama’s performance benefited by the late 2008 dive, which was bound to recover. The S&P closed at 2139 on Election Day, is now 2873, up around 35%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bormio said: The Dow surged in the 2 months after Trump’s election before inauguration. Also Obama’s performance benefited by the late 2008 dive, which was bound to recover. The S&P closed at 2139 on Election Day, is now 2873, up around 35%. The only thing I use to judge the Market is what happened to my Finances and I know better than anyone who was the best President for me Market wise and I am 56 and been in the market over 30+ years. I would happily place nice bet with You who screwed me over and who didn't and dug me out of it. Hint it was the half white half black dude. Now an all White dude is keeping it rolling. Thanks dudes Why is the White dude throwing a Black Power fist and the Black dude waiving like a white Dude?🤣 All I can say is thanks Dudes. I am happy and I am being serious these two have been a Godsend for me financially. People who know me personally would back me up 100% including a couple on this forum. All under these two dudes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 minute ago, DevilDog said: The only thing I use to judge the Market is what happened to my Finances and I know better than anyone who was the best President for me Market wise and I am 56 and been in the market over 30+ years. I would happily place nice bet with You who screwed me over and who didn't and dug me out of it. Hint it was the half white half black dude. Now an all White dude is keeping it rolling. Thanks dudes Why is the White dude throwing a Black Power fist and the Black dude waiving like a white Dude. All I can say is thanks Dudes. I am happy and I am being serious these two have been a Godsend for me financially. People who know me personally would back me up 100% including a couple on this forum. All under these two dudes. If you got in the market in Early 2009 and stayed there, you have done very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted June 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 I don’t care who’s in office as long as I don’t lose money. There’s a YUGE difference In % a president can lift market by where it stands when he takes over. Don’t know where market was when these listed started. This is old news as Dow is almost 26000 now, not below 24000 as stated Also, the time served obviously helps so Trump has 6 more years to reach new heights!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted June 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, DevilDog said: The only thing I use to judge the Market is what happened to my Finances and I know better than anyone who was the best President for me Market wise and I am 56 and been in the market over 30+ years. I would happily place nice bet with You who screwed me over and who didn't and dug me out of it. Hint it was the half white half black dude. Now an all White dude is keeping it rolling. Thanks dudes Why is the White dude throwing a Black Power fist and the Black dude waiving like a white Dude?🤣 All I can say is thanks Dudes. I am happy and I am being serious these two have been a Godsend for me financially. People who know me personally would back me up 100% including a couple on this forum. All under these two dudes. Not that he needs it but Mark Cuban has “lost “ shit load of money from this economy as he sold most his stocks because he predicted a collapse with Trump being elected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted June 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 I remember all this talk before Trump was elected. https://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/12/27/media-predicted-economic-collapse-under-trump-it-didnt-happen Even our own HSFB mb posting expert who predicted a collapse had to take a hiatus from the board to spend all his money he made from Trumps economy!!! 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Just now, Bormio said: If you got in the market in Early 2009 and stayed there, you have done very well. That's all I am saying neither Obama or Trump have hurt anyone financial wise. And anyone claiming that is just a damn failure to begin with. President Bush devastated the Market and damn near destroyed the Commercial Insurance Industry of which I am all in. President Obama took over a terrible economy by any metric and he did a helluva job and I am not all over his Nutz either. President Trump has continued this trajectory. Hell gas was over $3.00 in Texas Newt Gingrich was declaring to open our national reserves and he would get oil down to $2.50 in 2 years of the Obama Economy I have never payed more than $2.65 for Petro and it even got down to below $2.00. I just pulled in an the damn Gas is $2.16 under President Trump. Those 2 polar opposites have set this ECONOMY ON FIRE. The people that always look for a reason to not give props are full of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said: I don’t care who’s in office as long as I don’t lose money. There’s a YUGE difference In % a president can lift market by where it stands when he takes over. Don’t know where market was when these listed started. This is old news as Dow is almost 26000 now, not below 24000 as stated Also, the time served obviously helps so Trump has 6 more years to reach new heights!!! Exactly I would look like a damn fool trying to criticize either economically speaking. I know since beginning in 2009 my 401K exploded. Because of this dude. And this Dude has kept it rocking 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted June 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, DevilDog said: That's all I am saying neither Obama or Trump have hurt anyone financial wise. And anyone claiming that is just a damn failure to begin with. President Bush devastated the Market and damn near destroyed the Commercial Insurance Industry of which I am all in. President Obama took over a terrible economy by any metric and he did a helluva job and I am not all over his Nutz either. President Trump has continued this trajectory. Hell gas was over $3.00 in Texas Newt Gingrich was declaring to open our national reserves and he would get oil down to $2.50 in 2 years of the Obama Economy I have never payed more than $2.65 for Petro and it even got down to below $2.00. I just pulled in an the damn Gas is $2.16 under President Trump. Those 2 polar opposites have set this ECONOMY ON FIRE. The people that always look for a reason to not give props are full of this I paid $3.99/g today. Just under $100 to fill her up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Under Bush I was like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Just now, NorCalRuss said: I paid $3.99/g today. Just under $100 to fill her up. I got a 31.5 gallon Tank on my Avalanche cost me $69.50 to fill it up 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said: I remember all this talk before Trump was elected. https://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/12/27/media-predicted-economic-collapse-under-trump-it-didnt-happen Even our own HSFB mb posting expert who predicted a collapse had to take a hiatus from the board to spend all his money he made from Trumps economy!!! 😂😂😂 Because people want to create fear over someone they don't agree with. If truth be told both Obama and Trump have endured some pretty petty B.S. from both parties. You know like 875 Benghazi investigations and well let's repeal Obamacare. Repukes really didn't want closure or care about fixing You know like 3 years of Russian investigations and collusion. Demoncrats didn't want closure or care about fixing I actually can say I am happier for not giving a damn about either. Truth be Told Obama and Trump were both Renegades. If you really compare the two it will explain why they piss the other side off so much. Because they didn't give a damn and did what they thought was best. Thanks dudes for abusing Presidential Power or at least that's what the other side claim when either of you used executive privilege. The Repukes talked about impeaching Obama too. A Pachyderm and an Ass cause so much consternation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, Bormio said: The Dow surged in the 2 months after Trump’s election before inauguration. Also Obama’s performance benefited by the late 2008 dive, which was bound to recover. The S&P closed at 2139 on Election Day, is now 2873, up around 35%. That is what I mean by not giving Props. I call this Fecal matter that trickles down the buttocks of a Bovine. Or Party derangement Syndrome. That's like saying just keep fighting in Afghanistan it is bound to end. No action is what causes a reaction. If not go sit in the corner and never stand up and see if your knees lock. Was it just bound to recover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Pe Just now, DevilDog said: That is what I mean by not giving Props. I call this Fecal matter that trickles down the buttocks of a Bovine. That's like saying just keep fighting in Afghanistan it is bound to end. No action is what causes reaction. If not go sit in the corner and never stand up and see if your knees lock. Aw BS! That is why you buy on the lows, people understand it is going to recover. You may not know the exact low, but people have an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bormio said: Pe Aw BS! That is why you buy on the lows, people understand it is going to recover. You may not know the exact low, but people have an idea. We will agree to disagree. I got statements to prove where I had the most financial growth. Care to guess who it was under or was it just bound to happen? The worst Socialist ever; There is no such thing as alternative facts. I am not with the stupid vote 3rd time. I posted this for the stats not the stupid Democrats stamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 Obama took over a Shitty economy. The Repubes slowest recovery ever he sucks not one of us. Trump takes over and the economy keep booming: The Demonrats it's not his economy. He is a misogynist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted June 8, 2019 Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bormio said: Pe Aw BS! That is why you buy on the lows, people understand it is going to recover. You may not know the exact low, but people have an idea. there is no guarantee nor timeline for a recovery. After the '29 crash it took 25 years for the market to recover. A timeframe well into several presidencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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