Horsefly Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, PJR said: One thing I forgot to say: If he said it - and that's an IF - when leaders oppress their people, those people are not going to reach their potential. I see it as a reflections on their leaders. In addition, why shouldn't we want people who can contribute to America in a positive way? Every country should want that! When so many want to come here, we can only handle so many. I think if the people from those countries - and it's more than Africa - are allowed to be more free, they can reach their potential. Yes, they can do it here, but we have so many wanting to come here, we can only allow so many. Very similar to schools, colleges, and other companies and institutions. And those who come here should assimilate and want to become Americans! That might be, but we’d welcome those individuals not deny them opportunity based on where they came from. Seemingly they’d have no control over their gov leaders. They ‘d what was in their control, which is get out and seek other opportunities. Those coming here should respect the country and our laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJR Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: That might be, but we’d welcome those individuals not deny them opportunity based on where they came from. Seemingly they’d have no control over their gov leaders. They ‘d what was in their control, which is get out and seek other opportunities. Those coming here should respect the country and our laws. In a perfect world, I would agree with your first sentence. How many people can we allow in? Unfortunately, there is too much balkanizing of this nation. They're this-American or that-American. Certain groups do what they want and don't assimilate. Some in California raise the Mexican flag, while taking down the American flag. They're not here to be Americans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, PJR said: In a perfect world, I would agree with your first sentence. How many people can we allow in? Unfortunately, there is too much balkanizing of this nation. They're this-American or that-American. Certain groups do what they want and don't assimilate. Some in California raise the Mexican flag, while taking down the American flag. They're not here to be Americans. Fair enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, PJR said: In a perfect world, I would agree with your first sentence. How many people can we allow in? Unfortunately, there is too much balkanizing of this nation. They're this-American or that-American. Certain groups do what they want and don't assimilate. Some in California raise the Mexican flag, while taking down the American flag. They're not here to be Americans. We never just let everyone in. It doesnt work like that. It should never work like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Horsefly said: 1. He stated why do we want people, immigrants, from s-hole countries. That is a denigration of both the leaders of the countries and the people. The implication being people from s-hole countries can’t be productive nor able to reach their potential. you're talking over their heads....and making too much sense for them...they're in excuse mode at the moment...☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: We never just let everyone in. It doesnt work like that. It should never work like that. how did Melania's parents just become citizens?/...what did they bring to the table?...two old people from Europe?...how/why did they get in?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Horsefly said: That might be, but we’d welcome those individuals not deny them opportunity based on where they came from. Seemingly they’d have no control over their gov leaders. They ‘d what was in their control, which is get out and seek other opportunities. Those coming here should respect the country and our laws. and don't forget in the same breath Trump asked why can't we get more immigrants for Norway??...it was all about the people and not the country they come...he's so transparent it's not funny... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, PJR said: 1 - he called them S-hole countries because of the leadership, not because of the people. And it's not limited to Africa. These countries oppress the people, which keeps them down and UNABLE to reach their POTENTIAL. 2 - He told them to go back to where they came from because a minimum of two, probably three, and possibly all four who LOATHE this country. He's simply telling them they can leave if they don't like the country. Nothing wrong with that. 3 - The Left has done a job of redefining the word. The new definition is "disagreeing with someone who is left of center." If they think that way, I consider the source and they are sadly misled. They loosely throw words like racist, bigot, sexist, homophobe, etc. around because it can startle people and make them retreat. Straight out of the Communist and/or Sol Alinsky playbook. 1. then why didn't he criticize the leadership when he called them shit-holes??...nice excuse you made for Donny!..he was reffering to the people not the countries...and why did Trump ask "why can't we get more immigrants form Norway"...maybe because their all white and not their great leadership?? 2. So you, Trump and the rest of his fan base can determine when someone "LOATHES" this country?!?...remarkable!!...and not even worth a comment...😢 3. The left hasn't redefined anything. The right now takes it's marching orders from a documented serial liar...maybe that's the problem!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 No worries... they'll "get him this time" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, PJR said: He is a lot more conservative than Mrs. Bill Clinton and the ones who are running in 2020. In addition, he is more willing to shake up Washington DC than many others. In addition, he fights back against the Establishment. HE is doing enough things that are conservative, so stop BS'ing YOURSELF. It's like conservatives complaining when Mike Bloomberg was elected mayor - I replied "would you rather have Mark Green as mayor?" As for #2, I don't deny anything. That's something you liberals like to use against those who disagree with them. As if you're the almighty authority. PJR, I know you are a stand up guy but you have fallen to the Trump show not to the realities. You really need to approach this in a more objective manner because Trump could cost us our very way of life. Peace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: No worries... they'll "get him this time" ..weak wave today mam...😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, noonereal said: Trump could cost us our very way of life. Peace What? Do you see the socialist views from the left? THAT will cost us our very way of life. SMDH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, DBP66 said: ..weak wave today mam...😢 That reminds me i owe you rent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, I AM IRONMAN said: That reminds me i owe you rent. weaker by the minute mam...you're having a bad day....😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: What? Do you see the socialist views from the left? THAT will cost us our very way of life. SMDH i do not support the left loonies any more than i support the Trump. The key to life is balance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 52 minutes ago, DBP66 said: and why did Trump ask "why can't we get more immigrants form Norway"...m Because Norway is ranked 1st out of almost 200 countries on the United Nations Human Development Index you Shmuck. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index Countries ranked further down the list (who Obama Insisted on bringing here) are in fact shit holes. Period. Facts don’t have feelings. Any sane US citizen wouldn’t want people coming here from those countries lower on the list no matter what color they are .... black, white, yellow, or green. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, noonereal said: Trump could cost us our very way of life. My God. Take a breather noon and sit out a few plays. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Great post Mjd! 66 just came up for some air..his head has been in the sand most of the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, Mjd33 said: Because Norway is ranked 1st out of almost 200 countries on the United Nations Human Development Index you Shmuck. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index Countries ranked further down the list (who Obama Insisted on bringing here) are in fact shit holes. Period. Facts don’t have feelings. Any sane US citizen wouldn’t want people coming here from those countries lower on the list no matter what color they are .... black, white, yellow, or green. and you think Trump knew that???...LOL...please stop....he knew the people who live there are blond haired with blue eyes...that's what matters to him...😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, I AM IRONMAN said: Great post Mjd! 66 just came up for some air..his head has been in the sand most of the day! better job of waving mam!..keep it up!!....😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, DBP66 said: better job of waving mam!..keep it up!!....😉 Yawn...now take a deep breath and go back in the sand champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: My God. Take a breather noon and sit out a few plays. One of my favorite things is when NOR posts off the rails shit like that, and then a couple posts later, talks about what a reasonable centrist he is. Good times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, I AM IRONMAN said: Yawn...now take a deep breath and go back in the sand champ. ...and now you're back to being a weakling...😢 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 47 minutes ago, DBP66 said: and you think Trump knew that???. It’s Irrelevant if he knew or not because His premise is 1,000% correct. We SHOULD want people coming here from Norway more than say South Africa, Guatemala, or the Philippines. Thats what the Fucking United Nations says.... are they a racist organization too putz? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, zulu1128 said: One of my favorite things is when NOR posts off the rails shit like that, and then a couple posts later, talks about what a reasonable centrist he is. Good times. Just like 66 says he was a republican most of his life. Morons. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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