golfaddict1 Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 14 hours ago, dntn31 said: You'd have to ask Ken Massey. Looking at his site, the game against Clarkson isn't listed, so I'm guessing that's just a flaw with his algorithm - that it's constrained to only consider data points between two US teams. CalPreps seems to have a similar limitation. They at least have the game listed, but Iggy is still sitting at #32, so it appears that game had minimal impact, if any at all. CP has no rating for Clarkson, thus no performance rating for the game... similar to Massey. Looks like Clarkson faces IMG this week. Not sure how, but Joe Pinko's (FL algorithm source) somehow predicts games between OOS schools vs. a FL school... this week he projects Edgewater beating Marietta by 1 and Rockledge beating Iggy by 4. A few weeks back this source predicted MNW beating Lowndes by 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted October 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 The comp poll has been updated. New: 28 Carroll (Southlake, TX) T-37 Colquitt County (Norman Park, GA) Dropped Out: 21 Central (Miami, FL) 36 Guyer [John H.] (Denton, TX) 43 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) Most Positions Gained: +14 Northwestern (Miami, FL) +10 St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH) +10 Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH) +5 JSerra (San Juan Capistrano, CA) Most Points Gained: +18 Carroll (Southlake, TX) +9 Northwestern (Miami, FL) +9 Chandler (Chandler, AZ) +9 Longview (Longview, TX) +9 Marietta (Marietta, GA) Most Positions Lost: -27 Central (Miami, FL) -12 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) -10 De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO) -10 Mission Viejo (Mission Viejo, CA) -10 Centennial (Corona, CA) Most Points Lost: -30 Central (Miami, FL) -10 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) -8 De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO) -7 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted October 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: As expected SJB dropped in 5 of the 7 polls. They only dropped in 4 of the 7 polls. They were already #3 in USAToday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Why did Cen10 drop 10 spots after beating Santiago 63-0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, AztecPadre said: Why did Cen10 drop 10 spots after beating Santiago 63-0? They are only ranked by CalPreps and went from 20 to 25 and 5 points is a lot near the bottom of the composite rankings. CalPreps is pretty volatile (at least relative to human polls) and it's not unusual to see teams fluctuate like this despite winning a game, especially when it's against a much lower ranked team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted October 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 The comp poll has been updated. New: 24 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) Dropped Out: 23 Eastside Catholic (Sammamish, WA) 31 St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH) 40 JSerra (San Juan Capistrano, CA) Most Positions Gained: +27 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) +10 St. Edward (Lakewood, OH) +9 Colquitt County (Norman Park, GA) +6 Bixby (Bixby, OK) +6 Centennial (Corona, CA) Most Points Gained: +26 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) +15 Chandler (Chandler, AZ) +15 St. Edward (Lakewood, OH) +12 Colquitt County (Norman Park, GA) +11 Carroll (Southlake, TX) Most Positions Lost: -23 Gonzaga (Washington, DC) -23 Eastside Catholic (Sammamish, WA) -15 St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH) -9 Highland Springs (Highland Springs, VA) -6 JSerra (San Juan Capistrano, CA) Most Points Lost: -77 Gonzaga (Washington, DC) -30 Eastside Catholic (Sammamish, WA) -11 St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH) -8 St. Joseph's Prep (Philadelphia, PA) -6 Highland Springs (Highland Springs, VA) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommygun58 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Would love to see St Eds vs Colquitt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted October 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 The comp poll has been updated. Note: PrepNation currently has 26 teams in their poll (2 teams listed at #23). I'll keep an eye on the rankings to see if Jamie posts a correction and update the comp poll accordingly. New: 39 Guyer [John H.] (Denton, TX) 43 Cherry Creek (Greenwood Village, CO) 44 Punahou (Honolulu, HI) Dropped Out: 15 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) 36 Northwestern (Miami, FL) 38 Bixby (Bixby, OK) 41 Mission Viejo (Mission Viejo, CA) Most Positions Gained: +11 Centennial (Corona, CA) +8 Gonzaga (Washington, DC) +7 McEachern (Powder Springs, GA) +6 Guyer [John H.] (Denton, TX) +5 St. Edward (Lakewood, OH) Most Points Gained: +25 McEachern (Powder Springs, GA) +13 Chandler (Chandler, AZ) +13 Carroll (Southlake, TX) +12 Longview (Longview, TX) +12 Gonzaga (Washington, DC) +12 Centennial (Corona, CA) Most Positions Lost: -30 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) -15 Marietta (Marietta, GA) -10 DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD) -9 Northwestern (Miami, FL) -7 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) -7 Bixby (Bixby, OK) Most Points Lost: -54 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ) -42 DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD) -35 IMG Academy (Bradenton, FL) -31 Marietta (Marietta, GA) -14 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 The comp poll has been updated. New: 36 Mission Viejo (Mission Viejo, CA) 39 Washington (Massillon, OH) 43 Northwestern (Miami, FL) 43 Elder (Cincinnati, OH) Dropped Out: 28 Thompson (Alabaster, AL) 31 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) 37 Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH) 43 Punahou (Honolulu, HI) Most Positions Gained: +7 Mission Viejo (Mission Viejo, CA) +5 Oakland (Murfreesboro, TN) +4 Washington (Massillon, OH) +4 Male (Louisville, KY) Most Points Gained: +7 Corner Canyon (Draper, UT) +5 Lowndes (Valdosta, GA) +5 North Shore (Houston, TX) +5 St. Edward (Lakewood, OH) +5 DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD) Most Positions Lost: -17 Thompson (Alabaster, AL) -14 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) -8 Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH) Most Points Lost: -15 Thompson (Alabaster, AL) -12 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) -7 Chandler (Chandler, AZ) -7 Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Very happy that SFA is #2 in the majority plurality of the polls. FTFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: 3>2 Very good, but 3 is still not a majority when there are 7 data points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: @ECHS05 How soon can Lowndes and McEach play? Thx. Umm.... Looking at it ... McEachern has their Region locked down 100%. If Lowndes beats Colquitt on Friday, Lowndes & McEachern would meet in the Semifinals. If Lowndes loses to Colquitt on Friday, they would meet in the State Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Umm.... Looking at it ... McEachern has their Region locked down 100%. If Lowndes beats Colquitt on Friday, Lowndes & McEachern would meet in the Semifinals. If Lowndes loses to Colquitt on Friday, they would meet in the State Championship. McEacherns playoff path will look like.... Rd 1: North Paulding or loser of this Fridays Tift Co/Camden Co game Rd 2: Brookwood/Norcross/North Forsyth Rd 3: North Gwinnett (great game) Semifinals: Lowndes/Grayson Finals: Colquitt/Archer/Hillgrove/Marietta Too many people writing off Hillgrove... They really beat McEachern regardless of what the score read at the end because of a blind ref. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said: Don’t forget Milton! Yeah! We may wanna flip them over because their underside is about toast already. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Yeah! We may wanna flip them over because their underside is about toast already. Dammit man, are you gonna help your northern cousin shape perception, or what? LOL BGW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: 3>2 Yet SJB still #2. Which is all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted October 28, 2019 Report Share Posted October 28, 2019 Not sure if this was brought up or not... I just read about it yesterday. Lone “tweak” https://www.deseret.com/2019/10/17/20919082/lone-peak-football-loses-appeal-forfeits-five-wins They will have a playoff spot though, so that’s cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canyon Mike Posted October 29, 2019 Report Share Posted October 29, 2019 What is a Corner Canyon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosinc Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 5:17 AM, Canyon Mike said: What is a Corner Canyon? It’s a free kick in soccer after the ball goes out of bounds over the goal line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosinc Posted October 31, 2019 Report Share Posted October 31, 2019 On 10/28/2019 at 1:43 PM, dntn31 said: Very good, but 3 is still not a majority when there are 7 data points. He’s confusing “got more number 2 votes than any other votes” with the actual concept of “majority.” Typical BNU education. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 The comp poll has been updated. You'll probably be wondering why Narbonne had such a large jump this week. The reason is due to the fact that both Narbonne and Lone Peak had to forfeit their game from August 31 (which Lone Peak won 41-21 on-the-field). CalPreps apparently ignores the on the field result for double forfeits while it does not ignore the on the field-result where only one team forfeits. As a result, CalPreps is treating Narbonne as effectively 8-0-1 on the field (0-9 on paper). This is similar to how it failed to handle Iggy's loss to Clarkson from Canada. It's just a weak-spot or edge case that the algorithm isn't designed to account for. New: 31 Archbishop Rummel (Metairie, LA) 35 Narbonne [Nathaniel] (Harbor City, CA) 36 Muskego (Muskego, WI) 39 Punahou (Honolulu, HI) 44 Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH) Dropped Out: 16 Curtis [John] (River Ridge, LA) 39 Washington (Massillon, OH) 43 Elder (Cincinnati, OH) Most Positions Gained: +13 Archbishop Rummel (Metairie, LA) +9 Narbonne [Nathaniel] (Harbor City, CA) +9 Mission Viejo (Mission Viejo, CA) +8 Muskego (Muskego, WI) Most Points Gained: +12 Mission Viejo (Mission Viejo, CA) +12 Archbishop Rummel (Metairie, LA) +10 Chandler (Chandler, AZ) +8 Narbonne [Nathaniel] (Harbor City, CA) Most Positions Lost: -9 DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD) -9 Centennial (Corona, CA) -8 Washington (Massillon, OH) -5 Guyer [John H.] (Denton, TX) Most Points Lost: -53 Curtis [John] (River Ridge, LA) -22 DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD) -10 Colquitt County (Norman Park, GA) -7 North Shore (Houston, TX) -7 Centennial (Corona, CA) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 The comp poll has been updated. It looks like CalPreps corrected the issue with Narbonne. Maybe Ned reads this thread? 😄 Otherwise, a pretty quiet week. New: 40 Kahuku (Kahuku, HI) 42 Washington (Massillon, OH) 42 Lone Peak (Highland, UT) 45 Armwood (Seffner, FL) Dropped Out: 35 Narbonne [Nathaniel] (Harbor City, CA) 41 Centennial (Corona, CA) 44 Guyer [John H.] (Denton, TX) 46 Highland Springs (Highland Springs, VA) Most Positions Gained: +9 Punahou (Honolulu, HI) +6 Kahuku (Kahuku, HI) +4 Washington (Massillon, OH) +4 Lone Peak (Highland, UT) Most Points Gained: +12 St. John's (Washington, DC) +9 St. Edward (Lakewood, OH) +8 Punahou (Honolulu, HI) +7 Lakeland (Lakeland, FL) Most Positions Lost: -12 Narbonne [Nathaniel] (Harbor City, CA) -9 Gonzaga (Washington, DC) -6 Centennial (Corona, CA) -4 Colquitt County (Norman Park, GA) Most Points Lost: -17 Gonzaga (Washington, DC) -8 Narbonne [Nathaniel] (Harbor City, CA) -7 McEachern (Powder Springs, GA) -5 Chandler (Chandler, AZ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 The comp poll has been updated. New: 23 Centennial (Corona, CA) 27 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) 29 New Palestine (New Palestine, IN) 35 Valley (West Des Moines, IA) 37 Derby (Derby, KS) 38 Mount St. Joseph (Baltimore, MD) 49 Lincoln-Way East (Frankfort, IL) 49 Elder (Cincinnati, OH) Dropped Out: 30 Gonzaga (Washington, DC) 42 Washington (Massillon, OH) 42 Lone Peak (Highland, UT) 45 Armwood (Seffner, FL) Most Positions Gained: +23 Centennial (Corona, CA) +21 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) +17 New Palestine (New Palestine, IN) +11 Valley (West Des Moines, IA) Most Points Gained: +30 Centennial (Corona, CA) +18 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) +15 New Palestine (New Palestine, IN) +8 Valley (West Des Moines, IA) Most Positions Lost: -21 Gonzaga (Washington, DC) -9 Colquitt County (Norman Park, GA) -9 Washington (Massillon, OH) -9 Lone Peak (Highland, UT) Most Points Lost: -13 Lakeland (Lakeland, FL) -12 Gonzaga (Washington, DC) -12 Longview (Longview, TX) -12 De La Salle (Concord, CA) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Looks like somebody hacked Massey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 The comp poll has been updated. Some insane movement this week thanks to lots of good matchups and upsets. One thing to note is that Massey is not yet factoring in the St. John's/Good Counsel game. I've seen his rankings fail to include games that finish later in the weekend (even some late Saturday evening Hawaii games that finish on "Sunday Morning" eastern time). I'll continue to monitor his rankings but I'm guessing they won't include that game until next week. New: 20 Armwood (Seffner, FL) 26 Corona del Mar (Newport Beach, CA) 33 North Gwinnett (Suwanee, GA) 36 Central (Phenix City, AL) 39 Washington (Massillon, OH) 41 Covington Catholic (Park Hills, KY) 43 St. Peter's Prep (Jersey City, NJ) 46 East St. Louis (East St. Louis, IL) 46 Thompson (Alabaster, AL) 48 Saguaro (Scottsdale, AZ) 48 Martin [James] (Arlington, TX) 51 Grayson (Loganville, GA) Dropped Out: 11 Lakeland (Lakeland, FL) 14 Allen (Allen, TX) 18 Bishop Gorman (Las Vegas, NV) 21 Longview (Longview, TX) 27 Mallard Creek (Charlotte, NC) 30 Muskegon (Muskegon, MI) 35 Valley (West Des Moines, IA) 41 DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD) 41 Colquitt County (Norman Park, GA) 47 Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH) 47 Kahuku (Kahuku, HI) Most Positions Gained: +30 Armwood (Seffner, FL) +24 Corona del Mar (Newport Beach, CA) +22 Northwestern (Miami, FL) +17 North Gwinnett (Suwanee, GA) +16 De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO) Most Points Gained: +36 Carroll (Southlake, TX) +29 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD) +28 Armwood (Seffner, FL) +18 Chandler (Chandler, AZ) +18 Northwestern (Miami, FL) Most Positions Lost: -41 Lakeland (Lakeland, FL) -38 Allen (Allen, TX) -34 Bishop Gorman (Las Vegas, NV) -31 Longview (Longview, TX) -25 Mallard Creek (Charlotte, NC) Most Points Lost: -86 Lakeland (Lakeland, FL) -62 Allen (Allen, TX) -43 Bishop Gorman (Las Vegas, NV) -37 Longview (Longview, TX) -22 St. John's (Washington, DC) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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