2019 Comp Poll (Final Poll of 2019)

[Pops]

On 8/28/2019 at 10:16 AM, dntn31 said:

The comp poll is updated, but as usual Jamie at PrepNation is dragging his feet... 😞

Boo Jaime!!

[Pops]

On 8/19/2019 at 9:13 AM, HawgGoneIt said:

The hitch is that they actually do have at least 2 of the top 10 teams in the country. This creates the anomaly where all the closely connected teams s.o.s. is stout enough that they are also elevated in the algorithm just as Cal Preps prefers it.  This gives the impression there is a bias. 

I don't really think there is a way to solve that issue in the algorithms. The heavily weighted strength of schedule reward is where the issue is I think. At least my vommon sense tells me that's the case. 

 

 

It’s not a problem that needs solving 

give it time and relax 

DLS is normally lower at CP than national polls by end of regular season but zoom

up if they can win the Open and beat socal’s Best 

that’s an advantage to have that opportunity at end of season (if you can win whichnhas become a huge if), but it’s for beating really good teams 

if you want to change something, change all the human pills that could have voted for Hohn Curtis #1 in 2012 or South Panola in 2010 or any other team that gets touted because of their recruits and not their play 

[The Guru]

2 hours ago, Pops said:

that’s an advantage to have that opportunity at end of season (if you can win whichnhas become a huge if), but it’s for beating really good teams

It's an advantage for message board types like yourself who like to manipulate.

It's a flaw for those who actually want to see a good algorithm.

[dntn31]

Updated Comp Poll

A few new changes to highlight:

• The comp poll now factors in tied values for overall points
• There is a new column that shows weekly change/movement

[noonereal]

On 9/3/2019 at 12:23 PM, dntn31 said:

Updated Comp Poll

A few new changes to highlight:

• The comp poll now factors in tied values for overall points
• There is a new column that shows weekly change/movement

Freakin' awesome work!

[MC Rockets]

@dntn31 please look over your Prepnation column. After #15 there are some teams out of place. Miami Central is #20 but you don't have them listed. 

[dntn31]

This is what you guys get for looking at the sheet before I've posted indicating that the comp poll has been updated. Sheesh...

Anyway, the comp poll has now been updated.

Dropped Out:

T-39: Colerain (Cincinnati, OH)
T-42: Christian Brothers (St. Louis, MO)
T-42: Lone Peak (Highland, UT)
T-44: Broken Arrow (Broken Arrow, OK)
T-46: Carol City (Miami, FL)

New:

T-24: Central (Miami, FL)
T-31: Thompson (Alabaster, AL)
T-37: Mililani (Mililani, HI)

Largest Position Drops:

-19 (T-37): Centennial (Corona, CA)
-14 (T-42): St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
-10 (14): St. John's (Washington, DC)

Largest Position Gains:

+18 (17): Cathedral (San Diego, CA)
+12 (T-34): Saguaro (Scottsdale, AZ)
+8 (T-19): Mentor (Mentor, OH)
+8 (T-31): Trinity (Louisville, KY)

[MC Rockets]

21 minutes ago, dntn31 said:

This is what you guys get for looking at the sheet before I've posted indicating that the comp poll has been updated. Sheesh...

Anyway, the comp poll has now been updated.

Dropped Out:

T-39: Colerain (Cincinnati, OH)
T-42: Christian Brothers (St. Louis, MO)
T-42: Lone Peak (Highland, UT)
T-44: Broken Arrow (Broken Arrow, OK)
T-46: Carol City (Miami, FL)

New:

T-24: Central (Miami, FL)
T-31: Thompson (Alabaster, AL)
T-37: Mililani (Mililani, HI)

Largest Position Drops:

-19 (T-37): Centennial (Corona, CA)
-14 (T-42): St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
-10 (14): St. John's (Washington, DC)

Largest Position Gains:

+18 (17): Cathedral (San Diego, CA)
+12 (T-34): Saguaro (Scottsdale, AZ)
+8 (T-19): Mentor (Mentor, OH)
+8 (T-31): Trinity (Louisville, KY)

We love you man! As well as your efforts. I look forward to this every week. You are much appreciated. 

[dntn31]

Added a new column to show change in raw point totals week over week.

Most Points Gained:

+35 Cathedral (San Diego, CA)
+31 St. Joseph's Prep (Philadelphia, PA)
+27 Central (Miami, FL)

Most Points Lost:

-73 St. John's (Washington, DC)
-44 Centennial (Corona, CA)
-26 Northwestern (Miami, FL)

[Belly Bob]

On 9/3/2019 at 12:23 PM, dntn31 said:

Updated Comp Poll

A few new changes to highlight:

• The comp poll now factors in tied values for overall points
• There is a new column that shows weekly change/movement

Beautiful stuff. 

I'm loving the colors and the graphics and the new data points.

[Cat_Scratch]

On 8/21/2019 at 12:51 PM, HawgGoneIt said:

One would think that, but then we see Marietta at 92 and they're playing JSerra. 

Idk. This Cal Preps thing is pretty much garbage. I used to have hopes for it to be better or get better. Instead they keep fooling with it as "they prefer". 

They have Colquitt at 105 but in the same breath say that the Colquitt schedule is 25th toughest in the country while expecting them to only lose one game and also projecting a league finish of first place. 

I like to clown around about it and all, but, for real... This thing is a mess. 

 

SCHEDULE
2019 Schedule: 8/24 at North Gwinnett (Suwanee), 9/6 Thomasville, 9/13 at Valdosta, 9/20 Warner Robins, 9/27 Grayson (Loganville), 10/4 Alcovy (Covington), 10/11 Trinity Christian Academy (Jacksonville, FL), 10/18 at Camden County (Kingsland), 10/25 Tift County (Tifton), 11/1 at Lowndes (Valdosta)
Highest-Rated 2019 Regular Season Opponents:Trinity Christian Academy (Jacksonville, FL) (55.7), Lowndes (Valdosta) (53.6), North Gwinnett (Suwanee) (52.8)
Lowest-Rated 2019 Regular Season Opponents:Alcovy (Covington) (-26.6), Thomasville (23.6), Tift County (Tifton) (25.9)
2018 Regular Season Schedule Strength: 48.6 (46.8 overall)
2019 Regular Season Schedule Strength: 35.4
2019 vs. 2018 Schedule Strength Comparison: -13.2
2019 Regular Season Schedule Strength State Rank:#1
2019 Regular Season Schedule Strength National Rank: #25
2019 Projected Regular Season Record: 9-1
2019 Projected League Finish: 1st
2019 Undefeated Regular Season Probability: 38%
 

I suppose the projected loss would be to Trinity Christian at this point. 

 

...and they still have Rush Propst listed as head coach. 

I think Calpreps uses Googles algorithms, you know the ones they use for political polls.

[Pops]

On 8/16/2019 at 10:59 AM, MC Rockets said:

You are absolutely correct about CP and their ranking. It's like the damn "stock market" at times. 

Is a good thing 

human pills will just set teams in a preseason I reset and only adjust for Ws and Ls

teams are going to change order every week when there almost 15,000 teams putting up 9-16 results 

It’s wrong if they don’t 

and fwiw, my team is ranked by all the humans and none of the computers at the moment 

[Pops]

On 9/9/2019 at 2:12 PM, dntn31 said:

Added a new column to show change in raw point totals week over week.

Most Points Gained:

+35 Cathedral (San Diego, CA)
+31 St. Joseph's Prep (Philadelphia, PA)
+27 Central (Miami, FL)

Most Points Lost:

-73 St. John's (Washington, DC)
-44 Centennial (Corona, CA)
-26 Northwestern (Miami, FL)

Am glad Cathedral getting their due after being orphaned by socal guys 

am not sure they’re #3 in CA, but right now they’ve earned it more than any of the other candidates 

[dntn31]

4 minutes ago, Pops said:

Am glad Cathedral getting their due after being orphaned by socal guys 

am not sure they’re #3 in CA, but right now they’ve earned it more than any of the other candidates 

I would expect the winner of the DLS/Folsom game to leapfrog Cathedral in next week's comp poll.

[Pops]

3 minutes ago, dntn31 said:

I would expect the winner of the DLS/Folsom game to leapfrog Cathedral in next week's comp poll.

No doubt 

along with a dose of the sacred oil used for sacrificial lambs 

and the loser will likely see Cathedral in december to settle it on the field 

[dntn31]

The comp poll has been updated.

Mater Dei now has a 7/7 sweep for 1st place in every poll.

New:
T-15: Grayson (Loganville, GA)
T-34: Longview (Longview, TX)
41: Punahou (Honolulu, HI)
T-42: Muskegon (Muskegon, MI)
T-42: Mission Viejo (Mission Viejo, CA)
T-44: Lowndes (Valdosta, GA)

Dropped Out:
23: Colquitt County (Norman Park, GA)
T-24: Folsom (Folsom, CA)
33: Highland Park (Dallas, TX)
T-34: Saguaro (Scottsdale, AZ)
36: Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD)

Most Positions Gained:
+17: St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
+17: Corner Canyon (Draper, UT)
+8: De La Salle (Concord, CA)
+8: Mililani (Mililani, HI)

Most Points Gained:
+48: De La Salle (Concord, CA)
+47: Grayson (Loganville, GA)
+24: Mentor (Mentor, OH)
+20: St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
+20: Corner Canyon (Draper, UT)

Most Positions Lost:
-29: Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH)
-19: Cathedral (San Diego, CA)
-14: St. John's (Washington, DC)
-12: Marietta (Marietta, GA)

Most Points Lost:
-70: Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH)
-62: Marietta (Marietta, GA)
-54: St. John's (Washington, DC)
-40: St. Joseph's Prep (Philadelphia, PA)

[The Guru]

1 hour ago, dntn31 said:

Mater Dei now has a 7/7 sweep for 1st place in every poll.

I'm going to write a strongly worded letter to USA Today about this.

[dntn31]

3 minutes ago, The Guru said:

I'm going to write a strongly worded letter to USA Today about this.

Perhaps if STA didn't duck SJB this year to play DLS instead things would be different. 😉😘

[dntn31]

2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

In all fairness, they were originally slated to play MD. The other two games were SFA/SJB and GC/JS. 

6, half dozen, 🤷‍♀️

The STA/SJB rematch would have had a better story line though.

[Pops]

20 hours ago, dntn31 said:

6, half dozen, 🤷‍♀️

The STA/SJB rematch would have had a better story line though.

Why?

[dntn31]

The comp poll has been updated.

Massey still hasn't updated to include the game result for SJB vs. Mililani. It may have finished after his cutoff date. I'll keep an eye on whether or not Massey updates to include this game.

New:
T-32 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD)
T-32 De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO)
T-38 JSerra (San Juan Capistrano, CA)
T-41 Narbonne [Nathaniel] (Harbor City, CA)
43 Owasso (Owasso, OK)
44 Male (Louisville, KY)
45 Oakland (Murfreesboro, TN)

Dropped Out:
17 Northwestern (Miami, FL)
25 St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
32 Trinity (Louisville, KY)
34 Pickerington Central (Pickerington, OH)
40 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ)
41 Punahou (Honolulu, HI)
44 Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH)

Most Positions Gained:
+29: Lowndes (Valdosta, GA)
+8 DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD)
+8 Highland Springs (Highland Springs, VA)
+5 Muskegon (Muskegon, MI)

Most Points Gained:
+53: Lowndes (Valdosta, GA)
+30: DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD)
+11: Corner Canyon (Draper, UT)
+10: St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ)
+10: Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD)
+10: De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO)

Most Positions Lost:
-29: Northwestern (Miami, FL)
-21: St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
-14: Trinity (Louisville, KY)
-12: Pickerington Central (Pickerington, OH)
-6: Central (Miami, FL)
-6: Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ)

Most Points Lost:
-44: Northwestern (Miami, FL)
-23: St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
-15: Trinity (Louisville, KY)
-13: Central (Miami, FL)
-10: Pickerington Central (Pickerington, OH)

[StJoesFanboy]

On 9/23/2019 at 1:47 PM, dntn31 said:

The comp poll has been updated.

Massey still hasn't updated to include the game result for SJB vs. Mililani. It may have finished after his cutoff date. I'll keep an eye on whether or not Massey updates to include this game.

New:
T-32 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD)
T-32 De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO)
T-38 JSerra (San Juan Capistrano, CA)
T-41 Narbonne [Nathaniel] (Harbor City, CA)
43 Owasso (Owasso, OK)
44 Male (Louisville, KY)
45 Oakland (Murfreesboro, TN)

Dropped Out:
17 Northwestern (Miami, FL)
25 St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
32 Trinity (Louisville, KY)
34 Pickerington Central (Pickerington, OH)
40 Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ)
41 Punahou (Honolulu, HI)
44 Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH)

Most Positions Gained:
+29: Lowndes (Valdosta, GA)
+8 DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD)
+8 Highland Springs (Highland Springs, VA)
+5 Muskegon (Muskegon, MI)

Most Points Gained:
+53: Lowndes (Valdosta, GA)
+30: DeMatha (Hyattsville, MD)
+11: Corner Canyon (Draper, UT)
+10: St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ)
+10: Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney, MD)
+10: De Smet Jesuit (St. Louis, MO)

Most Positions Lost:
-29: Northwestern (Miami, FL)
-21: St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
-14: Trinity (Louisville, KY)
-12: Pickerington Central (Pickerington, OH)
-6: Central (Miami, FL)
-6: Bergen Catholic (Oradell, NJ)

Most Points Lost:
-44: Northwestern (Miami, FL)
-23: St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
-15: Trinity (Louisville, KY)
-13: Central (Miami, FL)
-10: Pickerington Central (Pickerington, OH)

i have no idea what you're saying.  Born in The Bronx, and livin' in NJ explains it, I guess.  But BC better not be anywhere near the top 50 when Joes is put 30-40  That's just crazy.

[dntn31]

The comp poll has been updated.

New:
T-37 St. Edward (Lakewood, OH)
T-41 St. Ignatius (Cleveland, OH)
T-41 Bryant (Bryant, AR)
T-43 Guyer [John H.] (Denton, TX)
T-45 Archbishop Hoban (Akron, OH)
T-47 Bixby (Bixby, OK)
T-47 Northwestern (Miami, FL)

Dropped Out:
18 Grayson (Loganville, GA)
30 Mililani (Mililani, HI)
40 Cathedral (San Diego, CA)
41 Narbonne [Nathaniel] (Harbor City, CA)

Most Positions Gained:
+14 Male (Louisville, KY)
+8 Longview (Longview, TX)
+7 Mission Viejo (Mission Viejo, CA)
+5 Oakland (Murfreesboro, TN)

Most Points Gained:
+28 Lowndes (Valdosta, GA)
+16 Longview (Longview, TX)
+12 Mentor (Mentor, OH)
+11 Male (Louisville, KY)

Most Positions Lost:
-31 Grayson (Loganville, GA)
-19 Mililani (Mililani, HI)
-9 Cathedral (San Diego, CA)
-8 Narbonne [Nathaniel] (Harbor City, CA)
-7 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ)
-7 JSerra (San Juan Capistrano, CA)

Most Points Lost:
-46 Grayson (Loganville, GA)
-41 St. Joseph Regional (Montvale, NJ)
-12 St. Joseph's Prep (Philadelphia, PA)
-11 Mililani (Mililani, HI)

[BigDrop]

USA Today has Highland Springs, VA and Southern Columbia, PA ranked ahead of DeMatha in their regional rankings.  Of course DeMatha is not ranked in USA Today’s top 25.  The only one of seven polls excluding DeMatha.

Who is Southern Columbia?  Who is Highland Springs?  Never mind that DeMatha is about 150-6 in their last four games.  USA Today believes Southern Columbia is better! Better!  

That’s credibility.  Love to hear someone explain this.

Thanks whoever USA Today hired to do this.  I’ll drive by your building in Tyson’s tomorrow and laugh.

[dntn31]

2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

@dntn31 Iggy lost to a team from Canada. How can they be included? 

You'd have to ask Ken Massey. Looking at his site, the game against Clarkson isn't listed, so I'm guessing that's just a flaw with his algorithm - that it's constrained to only consider data points between two US teams. 

CalPreps seems to have a similar limitation. They at least have the game listed, but Iggy is still sitting at #32, so it appears that game had minimal impact, if any at all.