whiteshoes Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Playoffs are really shaking things up!! Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (14-0) Bradenton (FL )IMG Academy (11-0) Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (13-0) DeSoto (TX) (13-0) Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (12-0) Allen (TX) (13-0) Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (10-2) Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (11-2) Logansville (GA) Grayson (12-1) Corona (CA) Centennial (11-2) Roswell (GA) (13-0) Louisville (KY) Trinity (14-0) Plantation (FL) American Heritage (12-0) Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (12-0) South Jordan (UT) Bingham (14-0) Austin (TX) Lake Travis (12-1) Mobile (AL) McGill-Toolen (13-0) Detroit (MI) Cass Tech (14-0) Scottsdale (AZ) Saguaro (13-0) Hochston (GA) Mill Creek (13-0) Cibolo (TX) Steele (12-1) Pittsburg (PA) Central Catholic (13-1) Cleveland (OH) St. Ignatius (13-1) Denton (TX) Ryan (13-0) Cedar Hill (TX) (11-2) Salt Lake City (UT) East (14-0) Cincinnati (OH) Colerain (11-1) Harbor City (CA) Narbonne (12-0) Rock Hill (SC) South Pointe (11-1) Manvel (TX) (13-0) Miami (FL) Carol City (9-3) Irmo (SC) Dutch Fork (12-0) Concord (CA) De LaSalle (10-1) Montvale (NJ) St. Joseph Regional (8-2) The Woodlands (TX) (13-0) Henderson (NV) Liberty (12-1) Phoenix (AZ) Mountain Pointe (13-1) Murfreesboro (TN) Oakland (14-0) Philadelphia (PA) Imhotep Charter (12-0) Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban (13-1) East St. Louis (IL) (14-0) Chandler (AZ) (12-2) Indianapolis (IN) Warren Central (10-2) Hoover (AL) (11-2) North Charleston (SC) Fort Dorchester (11-1) Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (13-1) Huber Heights (OH) Wayne (11-1) Stockton (CA) St. Mary’s (12-1) Paramus (NJ) Catholic (9-2) Laurinburg (NC) Scotland (13-0) Powder Springs (GA) McEachern (10-2) Cocoa (FL) (10-1) New Orleans (LA) Edna Karr (13-0) Novi (MI) Catholic Central (12-1) Washington (DC) St. Johns (8-4) Kimberly (WI) (14-0) Rancho Cucamonga (CA) (12-1) Cartersville (GA) (13-0) Greenwood (IN) Center Grove (12-2) Tulsa (OK) Union (10-2) Southlake (TX) Carroll (10-2) Highland (UT) Lone Peak (12-2) Mission Viejo (CA) (11-1) Miami (FL) Central (6-2) Monroe (LA) Neville (12-0) West Linn (OR) (13-0) Greensboro (NC) Page (12-1) Tampa (FL) Plant (12-0) Clinton (MS) (13-1) Folsom (CA) (12-1) Miami (FL) Northwestern (11-2) Greensboro (NC) Dudley (12-1) Austin (TX) Westlake (11-2) Valdosta (GA) (12-1) Norman (OK) North (11-0) Miami (FL) Booker T. Washington (9-4) Fayetteville (AR) (11-1) Jenks (OK) (11-1) Spartanburg (SC) Boiling Springs (11-1) Lansdale (PA) North Penn (14-0) Jersey City (NJ) St. Peters Prep (8-3) Bowling Green (KY) (14-0) Maryville (TN) (13-1) Houston (TX) North Shore (12-1) West Monroe (LA) (11-1-1) Camas (WA) (13-0) College Station (TX) (13-0) Matthews (NC) Butler (12-1) Rock Hill (SC) Northwestern (9-2) Nashville (TN) Montgomery Bell Academy (10-2) Savannah (GA) Benedictine (13-0) Cincinnati (OH) St. Xavier (9-5) Gilbert (AZ) Williams Field (14-0) Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (9-3) Oakley (CA) Freedom (11-0) Aledo (TX) (13-0) Baton Rouge (LA) Scotlandville (12-0) Baltimore (MD) St. Frances Academy (10-2) Daytona Beach (FL) Mainland (11-1) Tucker (GA) (12-1) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 #63 Miami Central 6-2 That doesn't even qualify as a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stache Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Thanks. It is nice to know my efforts are appreciated. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 I like the effort. I stand confounded that Grayson is as low as #9. With STA, Allen, & DeSoto ahead of them. Especially DeSoto... that makes no sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Im not sure if you noticed... but you have Mission Viejo above Rancho Cucamonga . .. RC beat MV 42-26 just 1.5 weeks agom I believe you mightve done this on accident. If not, Id like to know the logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 AB Hoban shouldnt be above St. Edward. Id move East St. Louis higher honestly. Warren Central IN ahead of Center Grove IN?? CG JUST beat Warren Central 28-7 a couple weeks ago. College Station TX??? Ill add more later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 48 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: AB Hoban shouldnt be above St. Edward. Id move East St. Louis higher honestly. Warren Central IN ahead of Center Grove IN?? CG JUST beat Warren Central 28-7 a couple weeks ago. College Station TX??? Ill add more later. Warren Central had beat them earlier in the season and I do not believe that Carmel could beat Warren Central, therefore Central is higher. Hoban lost to St. Edward by three the second game of the season. Since then Hoban has ran the table while St. Edward has three losses, albeit two to St. Ignatius. However, the Elder game cannot be overlooked. East St. Louis will end up higher as teams currently above them will lose in playoffs in head-to-head matchups. Mission Viejo over Rancho Cucamonga is a mistake and will be corrected. Why not College Station? I thought Tucker in the poll would placate my Georgia group!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Just curious What's the attraction for IMG over Mater Dei? Do you think that IMG toughest 10 opponents were more difficult ? id just like to see the justification, that's all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Whiteshoes, good stuff dont let the MD crusaders get you down 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 49 minutes ago, whiteshoes said: Warren Central had beat them earlier in the season and I do not believe that Carmel could beat Warren Central, therefore Central is higher. Hoban lost to St. Edward by three the second game of the season. Since then Hoban has ran the table while St. Edward has three losses, albeit two to St. Ignatius. However, the Elder game cannot be overlooked. East St. Louis will end up higher as teams currently above them will lose in playoffs in head-to-head matchups. Mission Viejo over Rancho Cucamonga is a mistake and will be corrected. Why not College Station? I thought Tucker in the poll would placate my Georgia group!! What happened in the 1st week of the season is irrelevant as to what was proven not 2 weeks ago. WC was lucky to beat CG the 1st time. And the thing is CG beat Carmel earlier in the season.... clearly Carmel improved as well. Center Grove didnt just beat Warren Central. They dominated them. And should have won the 1st meeting ... if anything it should be... Center Grove, WC, Carmel... you based your ranking on the 1 thing that DIDNT happen instead of the 2 things that DID. St. Edward has played far better competition than Hoban. College Station is a Record ranking.. simply bc they are undefeated. Their best win lost to 2 other teams by much worse that arent that good. Id find a team thats played another team atleast good enough to prove them Top 100 if they won. And Im not complaining about GA, lol. Im trying to give constructive criticism to help you with your poll my fren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Hoban and St. Edward played about the same kind of competition. Don't let the division fool you ECH. Hoban is a better football team than St. Edward, but unlike CG in the Warren Central issue, they don't have a chance to prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stache Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 1 hour ago, ATLien12x said: Whiteshoes, good stuff dont let the MD crusaders get you down When we beat SJB on Sat, that gives us (2) Top 5-10 wins. Neither The Bishop or IMG have done that. we should go to #1 in all polls. We are a once in a generation team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Sammyswordsman said: Just curious What's the attraction for IMG over Mater Dei? Do you think that IMG toughest 10 opponents were more difficult ? id just like to see the justification, that's all He might be holding off one more week to decide the IMG/MD difference, just like I'm going to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said: He might be holding off one more week to decide the IMG/MD difference, just like I'm going to do. Exactly to the point. I stated earlier that if Mater Dei runs the table there was a good chance they could leap over IMG and possibly Bishop Gorman. Let's let this thing play out and see how it all shakes out in the end. 47 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: What happened in the 1st week of the season is irrelevant as to what was proven not 2 weeks ago. WC was lucky to beat CG the 1st time. And the thing is CG beat Carmel earlier in the season.... clearly Carmel improved as well. Center Grove didnt just beat Warren Central. They dominated them. And should have won the 1st meeting ... if anything it should be... Center Grove, WC, Carmel... you based your ranking on the 1 thing that DIDNT happen instead of the 2 things that DID. St. Edward has played far better competition than Hoban. College Station is a Record ranking.. simply bc they are undefeated. Their best win lost to 2 other teams by much worse that arent that good. Id find a team thats played another team atleast good enough to prove them Top 100 if they won. And Im not complaining about GA, lol. Im trying to give constructive criticism to help you with your poll my fren. Just did not like the way Center Grove looked Friday night. Also, I judge Warren Central on what they can be not what they are some times. Anyone who knows that program knows they have a tendency to lose focus (see 2003 Warriors team). Another example, in last years semi-state WC gets within four, attempts an on-side kick which is ruled short of the ten yards needed after WC had recovered the ball. A kid from WC goes ballastic resulting in two unsportsman penalties, his removal from the game and CG with the ball on the WC fifteen. McCoy scores on the next play to extend the lead to 11. WC scores again, holds on downs and is driving inside the CG twenty when time runs out. A classic example of WC self destructing. College Station may be my admiration of Texas high school football. Any team undefeated this time of the season deserves some attention. You might note that Aledo is ranked for the first time this season. Finally, as I sit here today, I believe Hoban in better than St. Edward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 3 hours ago, ECHS05 said: I like the effort. I stand confounded that Grayson is as low as #9. With STA, Allen, & DeSoto ahead of them. Especially DeSoto... that makes no sense. OK, I will play along. Where would you have them at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 3 hours ago, ECHS05 said: I like the effort. I stand confounded that Grayson is as low as #9. With STA, Allen, & DeSoto ahead of them. Especially DeSoto... that makes no sense. Grayson has done nothing special beyond allen and desoto besides lose to IMG. Desoto beat a higher ranked opponent than either. Surely you're not hanging your hat on the CC won. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Here's the deal. You took the time to do a poll, the complainers didn't. Let them do a top 100 and then we can make a comp poll if there are enough contributors from around the nation. Of course people from cal will use Calpreps as the final poll and we all know Calpreps isn't bias at all toward California teams. Hell, I was born in California and I can see the Bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Where's SJC? They blew out the #22 team, beat #34 and almost beat the #5 team ..... Twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 North penn in lansdale PA is NOT a top 100 team. It will be proven when SJP beats them by 4 scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: Where's SJC? They blew out the #22 team, beat #34 and almost beat the #5 team ..... Twice. Look for them to "reappear" next week. Sounds like they will fill a slot vacated by Landsdale North Penn. In all honesty,an oversight. They will finish in the high 40's or low 50' in the final poll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I agree with ECHS on Hoban. Hoban should not be ahead of Ed's. Hoban is much too high. I don't see Hoban beating Trotwood, but if they do, then I'd consider moving them ahead of Ed's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 What would Totino Grace, MN do in Texas 6A or Louisiana 5A/D1? How many times have you seen this squad play and who do you compare the teams that Totino Grace has beaten too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'm not a John Curtis fan, but they have some good wins. Wins over programs most have heard about and or seen play from time to time. In fact, Curtis beat your #84 team by 2 TDs. Granted Curtis didn't play real well Friday night. St X, OH with 5 losses, I don't see that either honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 57 minutes ago, TheRealCAJ said: I'm not a John Curtis fan, but they have some good wins. Wins over programs most have heard about and or seen play from time to time. In fact, Curtis beat your #84 team by 2 TDs. Granted Curtis didn't play real well Friday night. St X, OH with 5 losses, I don't see that either honestly. Room had to be made for College Station TX , West Linn OR, & North Penn PA my fren. In favor over St. Johns, John Curtis, Pick Central, &, Brentwood Academy ... I find fault Though humble in revelation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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