frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 The data is below. Keep in mind, this is for ONE SECTION, ONLY FOR FOOTBALL, not all of SoCal or all of CA for that matter. Total number of transfers across all sports for this one section is around 7,000. To be fair, this is down about 11% from 2018. 1,931 total football transfers for the 2019 school year. My personal thoughts are that this is a total joke. Those that are cheering this on, should be ashamed. We all know this thread will turn into trolling from the SoCal posters. I am interested in what the posters outside of SoCal see this as. Thoughts? Picture for reference is football only transfers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exocet 98 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 Easy to silence 250 transfers. Not easy to silence 7,000 total transfers for the 2018 school year....IN ONE SECTION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 SS has over 560 members...so this about 3.5 transfers per school for all sports, boys and girls. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: SS has over 560 members...so this about 3.5 transfers per school for all sports, boys and girls. In 2017 San Joaquin section ruled on 1776 transfers for 174 schools. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 I wonder how Folsom’s transfer QB is doing? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, Ararar said: In 2017 San Joaquin section ruled on 1776 transfers for 174 schools. 10>3.5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: SS has over 560 members...so this about 3.5 transfers per school for all sports, boys and girls. Of course, the 1,931 is disproportionately distributed across around 100 or so schools. All 560 are not on the transfer train. Even with these serious numbers, the SoCal posters will try to justify them. For transparency, let's see if just ONE of them will willingly post the transfers numbers for football only, for the top 10 programs. Let's see em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, On2whls said: I wonder how Folsom’s transfer QB is doing? The 2nd string one? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 Actually- the numbers reported above, seem to be for FOOTBALL ONLY. The real numbers, per this article, sit around 7,000, for 2017-2018. Think about that- 7k transfers. And the SoCal posters knew this and went with the above reported number, hook, line, and sinker. At just over 16k transfers in CA as a whole, nearly half come from ONE SECTION. Last fall, the football team from Mater Dei (Santa Ana, Calif.) was crowned as Super 25 national champions. While repeating such a feat may be no small task, there is roster turnover at this and other Trinity League schools that is seemingly unprecedented in any other athletic league in the country. As Eric Sondheimer of the Los Angeles Times reports, the CIF Southern Section released its latest transfer figures for April, and the total for 2017-18 among its high schools is 7,226. That number is up roughly 3% over last year’s number of 6,999 with one month of statistics to go, Sondheimer reports. Within the highly competitive Trinity League, Mater Dei is No. 1 with 71 (!) transfers listed and, according to Sondheimer, there are more because several football players who arrived this spring are not yet listed on the Southern Section website. Schools may wait until the next school year to send in paperwork to confirm eligibility for fall athletes. Also contributing to the high number of transfers within the prestigious league are Orange Lutheran with 63, followed by Santa Margarita Catholic at 51, San Juan Capistrano’s JSerra Catholic at 49, Bellflower’s St. John Bosco at 47 and Anaheim’s Servite at 26. The Southern Section had already reached the 7,000-transfer plateau in April. Per the Times, there were 16,595 reported transfers statewide last school year, so it should be interesting to see if the statewide total moves past 17,000 by the end of May. And of them all, Mater Dei appears to currently be the hottest spot. The football program – with the addition of standouts like quarterback Bryce Young, running back Sean Dollars and wide receiver/cornerback Jeremiah Criddell, to name a few – might have a bit to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: SS has over 560 members...so this about 3.5 transfers per school for all sports, boys and girls. There are 7k transfers in your section across all sports. 7k divided by 560= 12.5, which is also disproportionate at many of the privates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 2018 School Year Football Transfer Numbers Mater Dei: 71 OLU: 63 SMC: 51 JSerra: 49 SJB: 47 Servite: 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 MD didn’t even have 71 total sports transfers in 2018 https://cifss.org/approvals/transfers/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, frankyjames said: 2018 School Year Football Transfer Numbers Mater Dei: 71 OLU: 63 SMC: 51 JSerra: 49 SJB: 47 Servite: 26 Why are you so concerned about SS transfers? Folsom is not about to play any of those teams. Those teams you listed are private and you’ve already declared that you are anti private. Just relax and enjoy your public school dominance. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, On2whls said: Why are you so concerned about SS transfers? I am concerned for the livelihood and long term success of HSFB. It is being eroded. You should be concerned too. This isn't normal. Nor is it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: We live in America, The Land of the Free. Thank goodness we have choices. I am all for choices. But this is a free for all that is not beneficial for HSFB as a whole. Why do you think we have the same exact thing happening across College Football now? It started here! No one sticks it out. No sense of loyalty or community anywhere. It sucks. Everyone and their parents just looking for the next coach peddling "playing time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: This has been going on for years. You purists should avoid elite hsfb going fwd. Transfers have always been a part of HSFB and College. But to the extent the SoCal Southern Section has taken it, is appalling. The transfer rules were not meant or intended for what they are being exploited for. I think you would agree. I think it is quite normal to have a few transfers on a team, for various reasons. But 71!? C'mon now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: In densely populated areas like SoCal I think those numbers are totally acceptable. So you would be ok with a team in NJ having 50-60 transfers on one team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: The NYC tristate area has 20M people, 7M more than the LA metro area, so yes. I think a lot of it is in what these posters say about it in SoCal. They don't own it. It is still taboo. They will be the first to call out a public school for 2 players not being born within 5 miles of the school. The same posters will then turn around and say- "Look at us! We have 70 transfers! You can't beat us! You are afraid of us!" Just dumb. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, frankyjames said: Of course, the 1,931 is disproportionately distributed across around 100 or so schools. All 560 are not on the transfer train. Even with these serious numbers, the SoCal posters will try to justify them. For transparency, let's see if just ONE of them will willingly post the transfers numbers for football only, for the top 10 programs. Let's see em! You will not get the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, Texasball said: You will not get the truth. I agree- never. However, I did post an article from the LA times above that does outline some exact numbers from a few seasons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: This has been going on for years. You purists should avoid elite hsfb going fwd. In California it makes football boring. MD and SJB are going to run rule everyone they play except each other. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 57 minutes ago, frankyjames said: I am concerned for the livelihood and long term success of HSFB. It is being eroded. Then why haven’t you posted the link to the article in the Sacramento Bee that points out Folsom Fatigue syndrome as a factor in the decreasing attendance and revenue in your sections playoffs. 2018 D1 title game 3800. 2010 same game same venue 17000. Seems like Folsom football is becoming unwatchable for all but Folsom fans. Aren’t you concerned about that? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, On2whls said: Aren’t you concerned about that? People getting tired of a public school, with a roster of mostly local kids, and a few transfers? No. I think the fatigue is legit and is a compliment to the success of Folsom in the SJS. I'd rather have people be tired of me doing it the right way, versus the way the SoCal schools have opted for. That is the difference between the North and South. You mention revenue as a factor, when this isn't even on the radar for most high schools. If you weren't so concerned with revenue and attendance, people would respect you a lot more. HSFB isn't about that. You are missing the point of all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, frankyjames said: That is the difference between the North and South. The difference is that there isn't nearly as much talent in the north. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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