thc6795 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, noonereal said: I am unaware she was censored anywhere. I am aware she is ugly. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/20/ann-coulter-vows-to-speak-at-berkeley-after-event-called-off.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, thc6795 said: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/20/ann-coulter-vows-to-speak-at-berkeley-after-event-called-off.html thanks but this story is about her speaking engagement being cancelled not about her being censored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, noonereal said: thanks but this story is about her speaking engagement being cancelled not about her being censored. Is that not a form of censorship? IF Hillary Clinton wanted to speak next Thursday do you think Berkley would have a problem with security? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 We have not had these levels of violence assoc. with speech in decades, this was all precipitated by Trump who called for and encouraged violence (totally unprecedented) and while the rest of society was left shocked, those on the right sat silent and mocked and ridiculed. These are the results and it will only escalate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHSFAN33 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Horsefly said: We have not had these levels of violence assoc. with speech in decades, this was all precipitated by Trump who called for and encouraged violence (totally unprecedented) and while the rest of society was left shocked, those on the right sat silent and mocked and ridiculed. These are the results and it will only escalate. Conveniently obtuse. Deflection is the mantra these days. You should read up on the difference between causation and correlation. You obviously do not know the difference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, Horsefly said: We have not had these levels of violence assoc. with speech in decades, this was all precipitated by Trump who called for and encouraged violence (totally unprecedented) and while the rest of society was left shocked, those on the right sat silent and mocked and ridiculed. These are the results and it will only escalate. yep all Trumps fault. This shit has been happening for years. Frigging libs man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCIntellectualProperty Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, thc6795 said: yep all Trumps fault. This shit has been happening for years. Frigging libs man. Come on man... you're smarter than the average conservative .. don't fall into the your team vs them shit.... address the op Trumps behavior is indeed bizarre and dangerous...... But his supporters consistently lowering the bar for him is even moreso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHSFAN33 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said: Come on man... you're smarter than the average conservative .. don't fall into the your team vs them shit.... address the op Trumps behavior is indeed bizarre and dangerous...... But his supporters consistently lowering the bar for him is even moreso What does this have to with a bunch of entitled brats at Berkeley who get flustered when listening to the opinions that don't align with their own? A bunch of Trump supporters are idiots. These liberal echo chambers are equally idiotic. The 2 are not codependent. Everyone sucks in this scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said: Come on man... you're smarter than the average conservative .. don't fall into the your team vs them shit.... address the op Trumps behavior is indeed bizarre and dangerous...... But his supporters consistently lowering the bar for him is even moreso SOC I hope your brother is doing well? I do really try to stay out of the us versus them. I also agree President Trump is dangerous. That being said, this lib mentality of everything is great as long as you agree with me has been going on for a while. To say these attacks are because of President Trump is BS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 51 minutes ago, World Citizen said: I'm not sure if he is playing a game or not but it could be he just opened his mouth. If you notice, every time he does that, a lie comes out. Its kind of his thing. Then again, he may have strategy in mind, giving out allies no confidence that we know what we are doing, not being clear on our position regarding a crazy dictator. Which ever it is it feels like he's making it up as he goes. I understand we are moving a carrier group there. He didn't say it was already there, did he? Frankly, I doubt anyone knows where our subs are that's pretty sensitive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, noonereal said: thanks but this story is about her speaking engagement being cancelled not about her being censored. Kind of counts as 100% censorship, doesn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, concha said: I understand we are moving a carrier group there. He didn't say it was already there, did he? Frankly, I doubt anyone knows where our subs are that's pretty sensitive. I mean come this isn't he sunk my battleship for god sakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Horsefly said: We have not had these levels of violence assoc. with speech in decades, this was all precipitated by Trump who called for and encouraged violence (totally unprecedented) and while the rest of society was left shocked, those on the right sat silent and mocked and ridiculed. These are the results and it will only escalate. What a colossal load of horseshit. Violence associated with speech has been overwhelmingly associated with the left/anarchists for a long time. The left will tolerate a speaker at the Woman's March in DC who was involved in the days-long torture and murder of a gay man (including her sticking a metal rod up the guy's ass). In fact, they cheered her. As they cheered a Muslim woman who has since been deported for lying on her immigration papers (she was a convicted terrorist). But if Milo Yannopoulis or Ann Coulter show up, there are riots, vandalism and burning cars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, concha said: I understand we are moving a carrier group there. He didn't say it was already there, did he? Frankly, I doubt anyone knows where our subs are that's pretty sensitive. Not exactly an armada though. Nobody should know where the subs are imo, at least not publicly stated. The point being, from my perspective, is that Trump is playing a very serious game and our allies (SK, Japan) are extremely uncertain concerning Trump and his lies. Being up front when talking to the American citizen or our allies does not mean you are telling NK or anyone else what your military plans are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, World Citizen said: Not exactly an armada though. Nobody should know where the subs are imo, at least not publicly stated. The point being, from my perspective, is that Trump is playing a very serious game and our allies (SK, Japan) are extremely uncertain concerning Trump and his lies. Being up front when talking to the American citizen or our allies does not mean you are telling NK or anyone else what your military plans are. Unless you are in the military or have family in the military the average citizen doesn't need to know a damn thing. The less people who know the better. One of the biggest mistakes President Obama made was telling our enemies when and where we were going to strike. Less is more in this case. IMO President Trump is not playing any type of a game. He has had a solid 3 weeks. No matter how anyone wants to spin it. He got China to abstain from the vote on Syria and send coal ships back to NK. He served notice we are no longer passive. He has let our allies in the middle east know we have there backs once again. Like I said IMO he has done a solid job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 As far as not wanting a hateful person to speak at some event, it's a free country. If the choice is to not have her speak then that's their choice. For those who are mixing a cancelled event and a situation where war is the possible outcome might want to separate the two topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, World Citizen said: As far as not wanting a hateful person to speak at some event, it's a free country. If the choice is to not have her speak then that's their choice. For those who are mixing a cancelled event and a situation where war is the possible outcome might want to separate the two topic. So if your a conservative you are hateful. If you destroy property, beat up people, that don't agree with you, then you are a loving soul? Exactly who are you calling a hateful person? When did it become ok to censor anyone for being hateful? So what about the choice of the students that want to hear her? What about their rights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, thc6795 said: So if your a conservative you are hateful. If you destroy property, beat up people, that don't agree with you, then you are a loving soul? Exactly who are you calling a hateful person? When did it become ok to censor anyone for being hateful? So what about the choice of the students that want to hear her? What about their rights? In the liberal mind, the rights of liberals are sacred (and frequently just made up to begin with). The rights of conservatives are negotiable at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 hours ago, thc6795 said: Is that not a form of censorship? no not at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, concha said: Kind of counts as 100% censorship, doesn't it? i meAN this sincerely. i cant quite understand why a bright man like yourself says such silly things. ok, i get it intellectually. everything right good, everything left bad. but when you or anyone does this you degrade yourself hence why i cant quite understand why you always do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, concha said: But if Milo Yannopoulis or Ann Coulter show up, there are riots, vandalism and burning cars. i know several very liberal people and they are pretty upset with the left loons and their violence. to me, the left loons and wing nuts should not be identified with the dems or the gop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, concha said: Kind of counts as 100% censorship, doesn't it? Not really.....they just don't want the old smelly dizzy blonde bag of bones on campus. Two totally different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, noonereal said: i meAN this sincerely. i cant quite understand why a bright man like yourself says such silly things. ok, i get it intellectually. everything right good, everything left bad. but when you or anyone does this you degrade yourself hence why i cant quite understand why you always do it You generally don't understand much ever, Nooner. The point here is simple: I don't care if left-wing speakers get invited to college campuses. It is a free country. But by the same token, conservative and libertarian speakers should be allowed to speak. In fact, in our universities you would think the presentation of a diversity of viewpoints would be a priority. Unfortunately, time and time again we see clear favoritism of left-wing views and the banning and demonization of opposing views. No need to reply with your usual fact and substance-free mental diarrhea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, TheRealCAJ said: Not really.....they just don't want the old smelly dizzy blonde bag of bones on campus. Two totally different things. Kind of like Hillary and the White House? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, concha said: What a colossal load of horseshit. Violence associated with speech has been overwhelmingly associated with the left/anarchists for a long time. The left will tolerate a speaker at the Woman's March in DC who was involved in the days-long torture and murder of a gay man (including her sticking a metal rod up the guy's ass). In fact, they cheered her. As they cheered a Muslim woman who has since been deported for lying on her immigration papers (she was a convicted terrorist). But if Milo Yannopoulis or Ann Coulter show up, there are riots, vandalism and burning cars. Yes, Milo and Ann represent everything they abhor about Trump...his perceived hate, misogyny and intolerance. It's what has been stated by protesters. i really don't not know why you all keep ignoring his actions. Trump has called for fights, even stating he would provide legal coverage for an individual that had assaulted someone. he most definitely helped in creating this environment we are seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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