181pl Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Guru, how would STA stack up against Mater Dei? Asking for a friend. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, steeler01 said: Yes, but do you understand how hard it is to get 3 teams who are competing for the same kids to get to the level we're talking about? Putting out a team that can beat anyone and putting out a team that will give you a good game are two different things Yes, all 3 have already existed at the same time, same coaches but different schools. 2012-2014: Skyline, Desoto and chill (Joey McGuire) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, The Guru said: Another serious flaw in Texan logic. They also ASSume that if a team plays close with [insert teams] then by definition they don't suck. But they never, ever come to the conclusion (which could be more accurate) that [insert teams] might not be as good as they think. It's always praise for the close loss instead of condemnation for the close win. You live on assumptions all in attempt to knock TX ASS/U/ME if you ever played competitive sports my bet is you’re coaches had to spell this out for you. when you assume you make ass out of you and me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, The Guru said: Now we get to your real thoughts. Private schools that are nationally elite in football are unethical. Got it. Poaching players from other high schools who’s coaches have developed them is unethical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Horsefly said: Yes, all 3 have already existed at the same time, same coaches but different schools. 2012-2014: Skyline, Desoto and chill (Joey McGuire) Skyline isn't in the south corridor. So no they haven't existed at the same time(Duncanville, Desoto, and Cedar hill) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Skyline isn't in the south corridor. So no they haven't existed at the same time(Duncanville, Desoto, and Cedar hill) Doesn’t have to be, they operate on the same premise, open enrollment. What is similar with Duncanville and skyline is the same HC that relied on the mesquite area in attracting athletes and of course Dallas is a supplier as well for both schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Doesn’t have to be, they operate on the same premise, open enrollment. What is similar with Duncanville and skyline is the same HC that relied on the mesquite area in attracting athletes. Show me where all south corridor teams have been extremely strong at the same time. Skyline is 24 miles away from Desoto high school. Which means they draw kids from a different area. That's farther than Bosco to Amat. Amat isn't getting kids from Lakewood, because it makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Duncanville to Mesquite 26 miles Skyline to Mesquite 5.6 miles Big difference. You have no example that supports Desoto, Duncanville and Cedar Hill being strong at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Show me where all south corridor teams have been extremely strong at the same time. Skyline is 24 miles away from Desoto high school. Which means they draw kids from a different area. That's farther than Bosco to Amat. Amat isn't getting kids from Lakewood, because it makes no sense. No they don’t. They are magnet and open enrollment schools they can draw from many places. I already told you they both drew stud players from mesquite. Mesquite is father from Duncanville than pleasant grove(skyline) to Duncanville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: No they don’t. They are magnet and open enrollment schools they can draw from many places. I already told you they both drew stud players from mesquite. Mesquite is father from Duncanville than pleasant grove(skyline) to Duncanville Give us the number of mesquite starters those teams had at the same time(Skyline, Desoto, and Cedar hill) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, steeler01 said: Duncanville to Mesquite 26 miles Skyline to Mesquite 5.6 miles Big difference. You have no example that supports Desoto, Duncanville and Cedar Hill being strong at the same time No, because the coaching was weak at one or the other. Everything is not based on talent. We’ve covered this already, Duncanville was bad prior to samples and it had nothing to do with talent. The coach wasn’t a good fit for the program. Chill has slipped b/c McGuire left. Nothing to do with talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 12 hours ago, steeler01 said: I didn't say, I asked a question. I believe at least 200-300 easily though Good luck finding 100 teams who could actually beat Desoto head to head. I doubt there is even 50 who could! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: No, because the coaching was weak at one or the other. Everything is not based on talent. We’ve covered this already, Duncanville was bad prior to samples and it had nothing to do with talent. The coach wasn’t a good fit for the program. Chill has slipped b/c McGuire left. Nothing to do with talent. Everything is based on talent. The team that acquires it wins. Duncanville was bad because they had very little talent. As I've shown before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: Give us the number of mesquite starters those teams had at the same time(Skyline, Desoto, and Cedar hill) Ill give you the mesquite starters for Duncanville b/c you believe since they are 26 miles from Duncanville then they should have no impact on what Desoto can attract right? Jaquinden Jackson, Chris Thompson and Blackshire (of course injured) are from mesquite. The first two live there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, steeler01 said: Everything is based on talent. The team that acquires it wins. Duncanville was bad because they had very little talent. As I've shown before. And samples who can attract it did; and it didn’t come all from the I20 corridor or robbing kids from Desoto or Chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Ill give you the mesquite starters for Duncanville b/c you believe since they are 26 miles from Duncanville then they should have no impact on what Desoto can attract right? Jaquinden Jackson, Chris Thompson and Blackshire (of course injured) are from mesquite. The first two live there. Where are thre starters for the others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: And samples who can attract it did; and it didn’t come all from the I20 corridor or robbing kids from Desoto or Chill. Skyline isn't located in the south corridor. So it makes no sense that the majority would come from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, steeler01 said: Where are thre starters for the others your position was that DV talent comes from the I20 corridor. I’ve told you it doesn’t and DV is not solely reliant on local talent. Neither is Desoto and Chill chill starting stud QB is a transfer from private bishop Lynch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Ill give you the mesquite starters for Duncanville b/c you believe since they are 26 miles from Duncanville then they should have no impact on what Desoto can attract right? Jaquinden Jackson, Chris Thompson and Blackshire (of course injured) are from mesquite. The first two live there. I believe, that if a team is powerful in an area immediate to another, the kids will go there not the upstart. I also believe there isn't enough talent for all 3 and history is on my side. Your argument is based on opinion and a school 26 miles away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Skyline isn't located in the south corridor. So it makes no sense that the majority would come from there It’s open enrollment skyline kids have come from south oak cliff, which is south Dallas. Steeler, you don’t have a clue about the area, you’re guessing. Vise versa too, skyline kids to SOC same for Duncanville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Horsefly said: It’s open enrollment his kids have come from south oak cliff, which is south Dallas. Steeler, you don’t have a clue about the area, you’re guessing. Im not guessing. I asked you to show me these impact mesquite players on all 3 rosters. So far it's one school. You think there's this 50 mile radius these teams will get talent from because they're open enrollment, but they're all located within 5 miles of each other Your example was horrible. Skyline is 26 miles away from these schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Here in Cali Bishop Amat(16 miles from Bosco) doesn't get kids from Lakewood. Bosco doesn't get kids from Covina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 2019 starters from Mesquite for Desoto, Cedar Hill and Duncanville. Ill wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Im not guessing. I asked you to show me these impact mesquite players on all 3 rosters. So far it's one school. You think there's this 50 mile radius these teams will get talent from because they're open enrollment, but they're all located within 5 miles of each other Your example was horrible. Skyline is 26 miles away from these schools. The example was spot on, samples had relied on mesquite talent regardless of how close his school was you talk a lot but offer no proof of anything where any of these kids come from. ive given you mesquite, Lynch SOC, Dallas and you’ve provided nothing but blank speculation Grand Prairie is another source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, steeler01 said: I believe, that if a team is powerful in an area immediate to another, the kids will go there not the upstart. I also believe there isn't enough talent for all 3 and history is on my side. Your argument is based on opinion and a school 26 miles away This is where you are wrong cause well you just don't get the talent level of the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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