Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, 954gator said: How many times have you seen Duncanville play? No less than Omaha Vol or you, have seen Duncanville play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Sammyswordsman said: No less than Omaha Vol or you, have seen Duncanville play agreed so why the assumption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, 954gator said: agreed so why the assumption? what assumption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 11:44 PM, Sammyswordsman said: Lol. You honestly need to get out and watch some of these Super teams. You obviously have no idea of the physical specimens that these team field. Comments like “debatable” in regards to SFA are just plain dumb and uninformed. Get better. Assumption that SFA is better than Dville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, 954gator said: Assumption that SFA is better than Dville. Simple. No assumption is necessary. Based on seeing hundreds of High School football teams, including 2019 SFA (which neither you or Omaha Vol have seen in person), I plugged in the data points and have determined that 2019 SFA is 6 standard deviations better than the ave. High school team. The chances that DV (which has not been as dominant vs a relevant sample size) is also a 6 Std deviation team, are about 1 in a billion. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Sammyswordsman said: Simple. No assumption is necessary. Based on seeing hundreds of High School football teams, including 2019 SFA (which neither you or Omaha Vol have seen in person), I plugged in the data points and have determined that 2019 SFA is 6 standard deviations better than the ave. High school team. The chances that DV (which has not been as dominant vs a relevant sample size) is also a 6 Std deviation team, are about 1 in a billion. 😂. Sammypreps over here crunching numbers. Maybe, maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, 954gator said: 😂. Sammypreps over here crunching numbers. Maybe, maybe not. Here is the formula stat guy. But the data points are proprietary material. You'll have to get those on your own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dart Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Here is the formula stat guy. But the data points are proprietary material. You'll have to get those on your own. What data points show that Team A, who lost to Team B in a head-to-head matchup, belongs in a Tier above Team B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Yard Dart said: What data points show that Team A, who lost to Team B in a head-to-head matchup, belongs in a Tier above Team B? IMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dart Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Sammyswordsman said: IMG Austin Westlake and Lake Travis. IMG is irrelevant to the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Yard Dart said: Austin Westlake and Lake Travis. IMG is irrelevant to the discussion. The Tiers are crowd sourced. We get very little (ie none) contstructive info from Texas guys. Perhaps you can provide some relevant data which can remedy your initial question next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: IMG If you even try to put IMG on same tier as SFA after how badily IMG got embarrassed I'll have to call @The Comish back over here to review these tiers LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Here is the formula stat guy. But the data points are proprietary material. You'll have to get those on your own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Columbiafan said: If you even try to put IMG on same tier as SFA after how badily IMG got embarrassed I'll have to call the commish back over here to review these tiers LMAO IMG was the answer to the cryptic post from yard dart. Since no specifics were mentioned, I thought he was asking why SFA was in the same Tier as MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Sammyswordsman said: IMG was the answer to the cryptic post from yard dart. Since no specifics were mentioned, I thought he was asking why SFA was in the same Tier as MD Fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yard Dart Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 How much data do you need? LT beat WL, yet you have WL in a Tier above them. I'm just curious why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Yard Dart said: How much data do you need? LT beat WL, yet you have WL in a Tier above them. I'm just curious why. Looks like they should be in the same Tier. I will speak to the interns and have this adjusted next week. Thanx for the catch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: The Tiers are crowd sourced. We get very little (ie none) contstructive info from Texas guys. Perhaps you can provide some relevant data which can remedy your initial question next week. 😂. Nice little feature you have built into your tiers, that way you don’t have to ever take blame or answer to the results. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted November 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, Horsefly said: 😂. Nice little feature you have built into your tiers, that way you don’t have to ever take blame or answer to the results. Isn’t it, though. He’s been using that as an excuse all season. Plus, he seems certain you have to watch a team live and in person rather than on TV to get a good assessment of said team. (Sammy, don’t bring yourself down to Cane’s level). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Omaha Vol said: Isn’t it, though. He’s been using that as an excuse all season. Plus, he seems certain you have to watch a team live and in person rather than on TV to get a good assessment of said team. (Sammy, don’t bring yourself down to Cane’s level). Tell us why you swayed the prepgridiron experts to vote for Mission Viejo this week? Emotions clouding your judgement? Don't bring yourself down to Extremely Humble level. Sad that you would sacrifice the boards chances in the contest just to strike at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted November 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Tell us why you swayed the prepgridiron experts to vote for Mission Viejo this week? Emotions clouding your judgement? Don't bring yourself down to Extremely Humble level. Sad that you would sacrifice the boards chances in the contest just to strike at me. Lol. It’s not all about you. As you can see in my rankings I think MV is better than Servite. However, the Diablos are only 20 or so spots ahead of the Friars. That’s only a .001% difference. In other words that game should be very close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Omaha Vol said: Lol. It’s not all about you. As you can see in my rankings I think MV is better than Servite. However, the Diablos are only 20 or so spots ahead of the Friars. That’s only a .001% difference. In other words that game should be very close. There is nothing you can cite to justify ranking MV ahead of Servite, or to pick MV in the pickem. Which only leaves getting back at me for calling out your misbegotton poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted November 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: There is nothing you can cite to justify ranking MV ahead of Servite, or to pick MV in the pickem. Which only leaves getting back at me for calling out your misbegotton poll. MV has had dominant wins over decent teams in La Habra, Upland and San Clemente. Those wins should be acceptable to you. Yes, Servite did beat SM worse, but you can’t automatically assume they are better because of that one game. This should be a tightly contested game. It wouldn’t shock me at all if Servite won, but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliNorth Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, 954gator said: Assumption that SFA is better than Dville. I think it is fair to assume that SFA would beat DV. Seeing DV and NS in championship game last season, as well as other games, gave us a good look at how those teams play. While the talent is obvious, the lack of defense and sophisticated offense by both those teams would leave me to bet heavily on SFA if they were to play either. SFA has a toughness about them that I don't see in those Texas teams. Their defense is nasty. A one dimensional DV running qb , in my opinion, will not get it done against SFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, CaliNorth said: I think it is fair to assume that SFA would beat DV. Seeing DV and NS in championship game last season, as well as other games, gave us a good look at how those teams play. While the talent is obvious, the lack of defense and sophisticated offense by both those teams would leave me to bet heavily on SFA if they were to play either. SFA has a toughness about them that I don't see in those Texas teams. Their defense is nasty. A one dimensional DV running qb , in my opinion, will not get it done against SFA Congrats. You arrived at the correct conclusion without having to do any Calculus. Some guys (954gator) insist on math (rather than assumptions) to justify ranking statements, which is why I had to bore everyone with the formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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