15yds4gibberish Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Who could have possibly foreseen any of this?... I was thinking about an old thread, so I went back to take a look. We switched from Rivals to Prepgrid late in 2016 (after the election I think), so much of the lead up discussion to the election isn’t on Prepgrid, but post-election discussion is. People don’t remember, but before the 2016 election, @noonereal was a Trump advocate. I believe he did the rare thing and actually changed some minds and votes toward Trump (but I obviously can’t know if that’s true). It wasn’t until after the election that Nor himself said that he had a voting booth epiphany and changed his mind. In early Jan 2017, Nor, I, and others, had a discussion about Trump prior to the inauguration. It’s interesting to look back at that thread now. The discussion took place before anybody knew there was an FBI investigation, before the Steele Dossier, before all the campaign criminal convictions, and on and on. Despite all that has come to pass since Trump took office, the underlying themes about his presidency we are discussing today were the same basic themes were discussing then. At the time, I argued that Trump was too fundamentally corrupt and unfit for office (emoluments, tax returns, inability to understand government and the importance of norms required for a functioning democracy, the serial lying etc.). Nor told me I was being ‘whimsical,’ ‘self-serving,’ and ‘supercilious…’ Maybe, but he caused me to speculate when impeachment hearings would begin… A lot of water has passed under the bridge since then. Hard to remember exactly how serious I was 3 years ago with my prediction, but it’s also clear there was enough basic underlying corruption already set in motion that would eventually lead us to today, causing me to speculate at the time. Please note that while I disagree with nearly every policy of this president (Paris, tariffs, kids in cages, tax cuts for the rich, etc..), I’ve always been pretty clear that policy choices are not impeachable offenses. My argument hasn’t really changed, my argument has always been about Trump’s fundamental corruption and unfitness for the job. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Haha. Nice call. *President trump was an easy choice to eventually get impeached. Low hanging fruit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Trump's impeached? MSM, deep state, domestic terrorism, China, the economy, America first, uh, political suicide, Trump's winning... --- Jesus Christ isn't the only the person to have been crucified for saving the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, 15yds4gibberish said: Who could have possibly foreseen any of this?... I was thinking about an old thread, so I went back to take a look. We switched from Rivals to Prepgrid late in 2016 (after the election I think), so much of the lead up discussion to the election isn’t on Prepgrid, but post-election discussion is. People don’t remember, but before the 2016 election, @noonereal was a Trump advocate. I believe he did the rare thing and actually changed some minds and votes toward Trump (but I obviously can’t know if that’s true). It wasn’t until after the election that Nor himself said that he had a voting booth epiphany and changed his mind. In early Jan 2017, Nor, I, and others, had a discussion about Trump prior to the inauguration. It’s interesting to look back at that thread now. The discussion took place before anybody knew there was an FBI investigation, before the Steele Dossier, before all the campaign criminal convictions, and on and on. Despite all that has come to pass since Trump took office, the underlying themes about his presidency we are discussing today were the same basic themes were discussing then. At the time, I argued that Trump was too fundamentally corrupt and unfit for office (emoluments, tax returns, inability to understand government and the importance of norms required for a functioning democracy, the serial lying etc.). Nor told me I was being ‘whimsical,’ ‘self-serving,’ and ‘supercilious…’ Maybe, but he caused me to speculate when impeachment hearings would begin… A lot of water has passed under the bridge since then. Hard to remember exactly how serious I was 3 years ago with my prediction, but it’s also clear there was enough basic underlying corruption already set in motion that would eventually lead us to today, causing me to speculate at the time. Please note that while I disagree with nearly every policy of this president (Paris, tariffs, kids in cages, tax cuts for the rich, etc..), I’ve always been pretty clear that policy choices are not impeachable offenses. My argument hasn’t really changed, my argument has always been about Trump’s fundamental corruption and unfitness for the job. So u dont want the country to collect millions in tariffs? Rather be ripped off in trade? Kids in cages was an obama policy that trump continued esp when these so called kids dont belong to anyone and are being passed from one person to another at the border People in states that matter seem to be happy with the tax cuts. Esp when the companies are giving bonuses and are hiring more and more people. The latest example being ford 5000 jobs in michigan For a guy that u said is unfit for the job he sure is doing a lot of good 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: Trump's impeached? MSM, deep state, domestic terrorism, China, the economy, America first, uh, political suicide, Trump's winning... --- Jesus Christ isn't the only the person to have been crucified for saving the world. Lincoln was shot in the head for helping people JFK was shot in the head RFK shot Malcolm x shot MLK shot If your in the mood as a politician to actually help people beware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 46 minutes ago, AztecPadre said: Haha. Nice call. *President trump was an easy choice to eventually get impeached. Low hanging fruit. Yeah. It was a tough call given libtards were talking about it even before he had the nomination. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, concha said: Yeah. It was a tough call given libtards were talking about it even before he had the nomination. That's all they ran on. No other policies worth a damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, concha said: Yeah. It was a tough call given libtards were talking about it even before he had the nomination. and his "perfect" call gets his dumb-lying ass impeached.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Lincoln was shot in the head for helping people JFK was shot in the head RFK shot Malcolm x shot MLK shot If your in the mood as a politician to actually help people beware And Jesus Christ himself. Trump's just trying to help the people. May God bless him and all those who are as selfless as he is and who share his same willingness to sacrifice his own welfare for the good of others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, DBP66 said: and his "perfect" call gets his dumb-lying ass impeached.... Actually, idiot leftists' bullshit impeachment will win him re-election. Markets are up, his polling is up... The stupidity on your side of the aisle is hilarious. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, concha said: Actually, idiot leftists' bullshit impeachment will win him re-election. Markets are up, his polling is up... The stupidity on your side of the aisle is hilarious. Looks like mark meadows is going to join the campaign for trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, concha said: Actually, idiot leftists' bullshit impeachment will win him re-election. Markets are up, his polling is up... The stupidity on your side of the aisle is hilarious. yea...it's always nicer to run on having been impeached!...nice to have on the old resume... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, DBP66 said: yea...it's always nicer to run on having been impeached!...nice to have on the old resume... Dumbass, yes. In this case it is. The American public recognizes that this is a complete bullshit temper tantrum by the Democrats. His odds to win re-election are up ten points in the last month. Ten-effing-points. Are you people so fucking stupid that you think he's going to be hurt by this? 🤣 He's going to USE it. He's going to saddle-up a horse named Impeachment and ride it all the way to re-election. https://electionbettingodds.com/President2020.html Investors are even more confident in re-election. 79% currently, up from 66% in September. 😂 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-18/more-investors-expect-trump-to-win-in-2020-rbc-survey-says 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, concha said: Dumbass, yes. In this case it is. The American public recognizes that this is a complete bullshit temper tantrum by the Democrats. His odds to win re-election are up ten points in the last month. Ten-effing-points. Are you people so fucking stupid that you think he's going to be hurt by this? 🤣 He's going to USE it. He's going to saddle-up a horse named Impeachment and ride it all the way to re-election. https://electionbettingodds.com/President2020.html Investors are even more confident in re-election. 79% currently, up from 66% in September. 😂 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-18/more-investors-expect-trump-to-win-in-2020-rbc-survey-says temper tantrum huh??..LOL..is that what you clowns call it when Trump gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar??..none of this is HIS fault and the call was "perfect" right??...has he ever done anything wrong??.... what a bunch of silly excuse makers you clowns are...putting a POS Pres. before your country... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, DBP66 said: temper tantrum huh??..LOL..is that what you clowns call it when Trump gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar??..none of this is HIS fault and the call was "perfect" right??...has he ever done anything wrong??.... what a bunch of silly excuse makers you clowns are...putting a POS Pres. before your country... You really are too stupid for belief. There were literally no first-hand witnesses. The Ukrainians even called bullshit. 🤣 In the end, you assholes got nuthin'. Trump will be re-elected EASILY. Thanks for the election gift, Idiots. Four more years of prosperity and you people shitting yourselves every damned day... 🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, concha said: Dumbass, yes. In this case it is. The American public recognizes that this is a complete bullshit temper tantrum by the Democrats. His odds to win re-election are up ten points in the last month. Ten-effing-points. Are you people so fucking stupid that you think he's going to be hurt by this? 🤣 [...] Yep. A similar thing happened in '98. Most people don't really care whether the President has or hasn't acted appropriately; what they really want is for the Government to stop fighting amongst themselves and to help solve their (the people's) problems. Democrats are looking a bit too politically motivated, just like the Republicans did in '98. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: Yep. A similar thing happened in '98. Most people don't really care whether the President has or hasn't acted appropriately; what they really want is for the Government to stop fighting amongst themselves and to help solve their (the people's) problems. Democrats are looking a bit too politically motivated, just like the Republicans did in '98. But it was AFTER the ‘98 election, the GOP got it done quickly after Starr released his report, and the impeachment was bipartisan. None of these things may be operative this time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, concha said: Yeah. It was a tough call given libtards were talking about it even before he had the nomination. Which dems were saying that prior to *president trumps nomination? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Man this guy was getting impeached the day he said he was gonna run for President Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, concha said: You really are too stupid for belief. There were literally no first-hand witnesses. The Ukrainians even called bullshit. 🤣 In the end, you assholes got nuthin'. Trump will be re-elected EASILY. Thanks for the election gift, Idiots. Four more years of prosperity and you people shitting yourselves every damned day... 🤣 the assholes got nothing huh??...they got an impeachment moron...he'll go down in history book as a traitor POS...LOL..😉...and he'll have 2 astericks next to his name now...1 for losing the popular election and 1 for being impeached...😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, AztecPadre said: Which dems were saying that prior to *president trumps nomination? https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-impeachment-213817 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, DBP66 said: the assholes got nothing huh??...they got an impeachment moron...he'll go down in history book as a traitor POS...LOL..😉...and he'll have 2 astericks next to his name now...1 for losing the popular election and 1 for being impeached...😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, concha said: back to your silly memes??...happens all the time when you clowns can't make any sense...🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, DBP66 said: back to your silly memes??...happens all the time when you clowns can't make any sense...🙄 All the sense anyone needs: Dumbass Dems just handed the 2020 election to Trump. Thanks! . 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15yds4gibberish Posted December 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, concha said: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-impeachment-213817 Well, there was a lot of that going around at the time: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/09/a-house-republican-already-wants-to-impeach-hillary-clinton/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/03/no-honeymoon-for-hillary-congressional-republicans-openly-discussing-impeachment/ https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/republicans-are-already-talking-about-impeaching-clinton Of course stupidity doesn't excuse stupidity either. The question yesterday was about whether or not the president should be impeached (yes), not whether all Democrats are consistent (no). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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