badrouter Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, THEOC89 said: I just don't see what makes 2017 MD better then 2018 MD... I think 2019 may have actually been the Best team, Still cant figure out how they blew that lead to SJB, other then the injured secondary... Daniels was better than Jr. year Bryce Young IMO. Seems to me BY made a major leap in his senior season. Have to think USAA has hit him up to see if he can skip Saban and co and get more exposure with Dusty and Joe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 6 hours ago, badrouter said: 2017 MD DEFINITELY beats 2018 MD. The 2019 team I'm not as sure about. That 2017 Oline was unreal. I don't think any db on 2019 MD locks up Amon-Ra. Solomon Tuliaupupu was a freak at MLB. Elias Ricks & DGW shut it down outside too. They beat the New Jersey state champions by 48 points. That being said, 2019 Monarchs by 2 scores. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliNorth Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 14 hours ago, badrouter said: 2017 MD DEFINITELY beats 2018 MD. The 2019 team I'm not as sure about. Early in season was 2017 better than 2018 imop. They had a lot of new players in 2018 , and after the SJB game, that MD team came on big time down the stretch . The 2018 defense was clearly better than 2017 overall . And Bryce really came into his own . Both teams great , but by championship game , my bet would have been on 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 16 hours ago, THEOC89 said: 2017 MD would not have Beat 2018 MD or 2019 MD.... Those 2 Teams Played tougher competition and hold wins over IMG and SFA... BG post Tate Martell and BC were not on the level of either IMG or SFA.... Plus SJB wasn't nearly as good in 2017 as they were in 18-19... I will take the team that had a comeback and win against IMG rather then a team that never trailed against lesser competition... I know MD had a Star Receiver sit out against BG, but 2017 BG was not anything like 2016 BG with Tate Martell... I think The Greatest Team from CA ever was 1999 or 2001 DLS... Those 2 teams had the Talented Athletes and Future NFL type of prospects to beat the Super Teams of today... Those DLS Team's had Matt Guiterrez at QB who could not only run the veer well, but was a terrific passer and future NFL type of Receivers... I would take all 4 of those teams over 2017 MD... Maybe even 2019 SJB as well.... All just my opinion of course! All understood and well taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 On 3/4/2020 at 5:05 PM, THEOC89 said: 2017 MD would not have Beat 2018 MD or 2019 MD.... Those 2 Teams Played tougher competition and hold wins over IMG and SFA... BG post Tate Martell and BC were not on the level of either IMG or SFA.... Plus SJB wasn't nearly as good in 2017 as they were in 18-19... I will take the team that had a comeback and win against IMG rather then a team that never trailed against lesser competition... I know MD had a Star Receiver sit out against BG, but 2017 BG was not anything like 2016 BG with Tate Martell... I think The Greatest Team from CA ever was 1999 or 2001 DLS... Those 2 teams had the Talented Athletes and Future NFL type of prospects to beat the Super Teams of today... Those DLS Team's had Matt Guiterrez at QB who could not only run the veer well, but was a terrific passer and future NFL type of Receivers... I would take all 4 of those teams over 2017 MD... Maybe even 2019 SJB as well.... All just my opinion of course! Whoa Whoa Whoa...Cool those Jets. 2017 MD was a "Once in a Generation " team. Offensively they were better on the line and RB than the 2019 team. Passing game had more WR's. St. Brown and Bru to start with. 2019 MD had their passing game throttled simply by doubling the #1 WR like SJB did, Defensively the 2017 Front 7 was better. No way SFA would have been able to get all those running yards vs the 2017 team. The backers especially were beasts. Masa Funa and Solo were 5* guys. That being said, both of those teams beat DLS 1999 and 2001 and 2003. I saw all of those DLS teams play and being 1 dimensional offense would be the killer for them. Also the DLS secondary would have been torched 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckburghsfinest1987 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 which team is considered the best High School team to ever come out of Texas? that would be a dream match up with the 2017 MD team or the 2001 or 1999 DLS team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Duckburghsfinest1987 said: which team is considered the best High School team to ever come out of Texas? that would be a dream match up with the 2017 MD team or the 2001 or 1999 DLS team. Per Calpreps; No luck against Mater Dei apparently... neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 42, [2018] North Shore (Houston, TX) 26 neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 44, [2016] Lake Travis (Austin, TX) 22 neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 42, [2015] Katy (TX) 17 neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 42, [2013] Allen (TX) 28 neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 50, [2009] Trinity (Euless, TX) 14 neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 48, [2005] Carroll (Southlake, TX) 22 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Duckburghsfinest1987 said: which team is considered the best High School team to ever come out of Texas? that would be a dream match up with the 2017 MD team or the 2001 or 1999 DLS team. Per Calpreps; De La Salle doesn’t look pretty against Texas teams: neutral field [2018] North Shore (Houston, TX) 48, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 21 neutral field [2017] Manvel (TX) 41, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 31 neutral field [2016] Lake Travis (Austin, TX) 44, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 26 neutral field [2016] Cedar Hill (TX) 38, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 31 neutral field [2015] Katy (TX) 40, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 21 neutral field [2014] Allen (TX) 35, [2003] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 34 neutral field [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 35, [2014] Aledo (TX) 34 neutral field [2013] Allen (TX) 48, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 21 neutral field [2013] DeSoto (TX) 48, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 22 neutral field [2012] Steele (Cibolo, TX) 35, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 31 neutral field [2010] Pearland (TX) 38, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 34 neutral field [2009] Trinity (Euless, TX) 38, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 31 neutral field [2006] Cedar Hill (TX) 42, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 28 neutral field [2003] North Shore (Houston, TX) 30, [2003] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 28 Oh Sammmyyy.......You’ve got some ‘splainin to do... Why were they powerhouse teams again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEOC89 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: I saw all of those DLS teams play and being 1 dimensional offense would be the killer for them. Also the DLS secondary would have been torched Then you would have seen Matt Gutierrez throw 6 TD passes against MD as a freshman.... That DLS team had I think 4 future NFL players on it.... as did 2001... 1999 DLS and 2001 with MJD would be just fine against 2017 MD... totally different Veer when the QB is 6’3 and can throw to future NFL players like Demitrius Williams.... The whole “Once In a Generation” Team thing is way overblown... Great Team, MNC all they way.... “Best Ever”, Certainly Debatable.... But that is what makes this fun!!!...🤣👍🏈 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEOC89 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, SeaShells21 said: Per Calpreps; De La Salle doesn’t look pretty against Texas teams: neutral field [2018] North Shore (Houston, TX) 48, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 21 neutral field [2017] Manvel (TX) 41, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 31 neutral field [2016] Lake Travis (Austin, TX) 44, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 26 neutral field [2016] Cedar Hill (TX) 38, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 31 neutral field [2015] Katy (TX) 40, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 21 neutral field [2014] Allen (TX) 35, [2003] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 34 neutral field [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 35, [2014] Aledo (TX) 34 neutral field [2013] Allen (TX) 48, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 21 neutral field [2013] DeSoto (TX) 48, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 22 neutral field [2012] Steele (Cibolo, TX) 35, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 31 neutral field [2010] Pearland (TX) 38, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 34 neutral field [2009] Trinity (Euless, TX) 38, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 31 neutral field [2006] Cedar Hill (TX) 42, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 28 neutral field [2003] North Shore (Houston, TX) 30, [2003] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 28 Oh Sammmyyy.......You’ve got some ‘splainin to do... Why were they powerhouse teams again? This computer you refer to has obviously never watched actual games before....🤣 2001 DLS had at least 4 future NFL players on the team with a veer QB who was good enough to make it to the NFL.... They also beat the #1 team in the country on the road.... 2001 DLS has their place in HSFB history... They put their streak on the line against the #1 team in the country... And Won.... 🤣🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD87 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 8 hours ago, THEOC89 said: This computer you refer to has obviously never watched actual games before....🤣 2001 DLS had at least 4 future NFL players on the team with a veer QB who was good enough to make it to the NFL.... They also beat the #1 team in the country on the road.... 2001 DLS has their place in HSFB history... They put their streak on the line against the #1 team in the country... And Won.... 🤣🤣 Agreed. That's a friggin joke. Poly's D that year was better than ANY of these TX teams'. Mo Drew would have sliced and diced them, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalven Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 NS better show out against DLS, a one possession win for NS does nothing! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 47 minutes ago, MD87 said: Agreed. That's a friggin joke. Poly's D that year was better than ANY of these TX teams'. Mo Drew would have sliced and diced them, too. Poly had a weak set of LB'ers that year. All first year starters, none of them College ability guys. That is why Lad got MJD isolated on the backers and torched them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Poly had a weak set of LB'ers that year. All first year starters, none of them College ability guys. That is why Lad got MJD isolated on the backers and torched them. Pago Togafau started for poly in 2000 Played in the NFL as well. That poly team was flawed on offense. A 5'8 QB that wasn't very good being the biggest weakness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 18 hours ago, SeaShells21 said: Per Calpreps; No luck against Mater Dei apparently... neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 42, [2018] North Shore (Houston, TX) 26 neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 44, [2016] Lake Travis (Austin, TX) 22 neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 42, [2015] Katy (TX) 17 neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 42, [2013] Allen (TX) 28 neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 50, [2009] Trinity (Euless, TX) 14 neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 48, [2005] Carroll (Southlake, TX) 22 Calpreps has never lied! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 hours ago, steeler01 said: Pago Togafau started for poly in 2000 Played in the NFL as well. That poly team was flawed on offense. A 5'8 QB that wasn't very good being the biggest weakness In retrospect that Poly team had glaring weaknesses. Starting with a first year coach and the backers were not well coached and were lost agains the veer. Togafu was Only junior and a new starter. He was nowhere to be found that Game like you mentioned the Offense was anemic. The rest of the CIF was Tier 2 nationally. Poly was Tier 1 only because they could out athlete everyone. Today’s SJB and MD would win 49-0 vs that Poly team 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 18 hours ago, THEOC89 said: This computer you refer to has obviously never watched actual games before....🤣 2001 DLS had at least 4 future NFL players on the team with a veer QB who was good enough to make it to the NFL.... They also beat the #1 team in the country on the road.... 2001 DLS has their place in HSFB history... They put their streak on the line against the #1 team in the country... And Won.... 🤣🤣 Well, would you please advise your butler to provide me with an accurate score prediction analyzer? Please and Thank you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 10 hours ago, MD87 said: Agreed. That's a friggin joke. Poly's D that year was better than ANY of these TX teams'. Mo Drew would have sliced and diced them, too. Is there any video of either team? Preferably something that doesn’t look like it was filmed with a potato? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 hours ago, HurricaneNick said: Calpreps has never lied! neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 56, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 14 you’re so right..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 I miss LBP 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 56, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 14 you’re so right..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, Ararar said: I miss LBP Funk house 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, HurricaneNick said: Funk house Shame what’s happened to that program 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEOC89 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, SeaShells21 said: neutral field [2017] Mater Dei (Santa Ana, CA) 56, [2001] De La Salle (Concord, CA) 14 you’re so right..... The “computer” must have 2001 DLS confused with 2001 “De Soto TX”....🤣🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEOC89 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, Ararar said: Shame what’s happened to that program Agree!!!.... There was no Public vs Private crying when LBP was Rolling.... It was actually the other way around!!!.... 🤣🤣 They had as dominate a run in the Southern Section as we have ever seen!!!.... Including the current day.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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