HooverOutlaw Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 14 hours ago, Fred said: Spoken like a fan of small town Alabama football. Come to the big city where there is so much growth, new homes at all price points, and plentiful jobs that people move in and around regularly. I realize that's something you can't comprehend. More people have moved into Gwinnett since 2012 than currently live in Hoover. The school system opened a new school (Archer) and took 1,000 students from Grayson in 2009. We are now back to or slightly above our student enrollment the year before they took 1,000 away - all in 10 years. If all of the building that has been approved happens in our cluster, I expect the student enrollment to go over 4,000 within 5 years. Heck, we just started a 450,000 sq ft addition to the school for a total of 41 *new* classrooms. I personally hope Hoover does not grow any more. Hoover's max is 3550 students we are at 2970 or so right now. I'm happy in our small town. All that metro growth that you live and die with and makes you feel great is not important to me and Hoover. I bet most people who grew up in Gwinnett County wishes it was still like it was back in the 70s. Showing the fact that Grayson has produced more college players than anybody just shows how bad the coaching has been. Example when the team refused to practice. I'm happy only having 4 offcial coaches since the 60s for the Bucs. While Grayson can't keep a Coach. If Hoover did not split in 2002 we would have 5200 kids now. So don't cry about new schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: I bet most people who grew up in Gwinnett County wishes it was still like it was back in the 70s. lol actually this is true people are not comfortable with change change creates stress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, noonereal said: lol actually this is true people are not comfortable with change change creates stress Every old fart thinks the world was better when they were young and in their prime. Despite the obvious truth being the exact opposite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, The Guru said: Every old fart thinks the world was better when they were young and in their prime. Despite the obvious truth being the exact opposite. and not a one will admit, even when you show them the science, that this is fear based response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted January 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 There are a million worse places to live than Gwinnett County. I assure you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: There are a million worse places to live than Gwinnett County. I assure you Not saying it is a bad place to live. I am just happy with living where I'm at. Except moving to the coast and getting paid to fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: There are a million worse places to live than Gwinnett County. I assure you I don't know about a million...... (Smile) Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: I am just happy with living where I'm at. As are we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Sweetlarry said: A lot of bumpkins do. That’s why I don’t get why some of sowegas top notch teams don’t travel? You’d think they would want to get the kids some exposure, but alas it’s not to be. I can understand a student staying in the same system if it's a small town/county, but nowadays, it seems like a hard thing to do due to expansion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 12:55 PM, Pops said: Interesting Atlanta metro can definitely put a team together to compete with the academy level my question is whether a metro public and provide the other ingredients — coaching, facilities, teamwork/ espirit de corps, etc. there’s not really an example of a public that’s done it at that level — Allen (TX) maybe. think that guy starting USA Academy is just about 100 miles farther west than would be ideal for him The political climate in Alabama is even more conservative than in Georgia. This matters because the whole "home-schooling" alternative he's aiming to create figures to be more accepted than in Atlanta. Home-schooling only serves a grand, aggregate total of one (1) market: The evangelical crowd who wants to shield their kids from basic science which conflicts with the Bible and tribal conservative rhetoric. The public, community schools are a big deal in both states, but probably even more so in Georgia. I think he'll get less backlash in Alabama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, badrouter said: The political climate in Alabama is even more conservative than in Georgia. This matters because the whole "home-schooling" alternative he's aiming to create figures to be more accepted than in Atlanta. Home-schooling only serves a grand, aggregate total of one (1) market: The evangelical crowd who wants to shield their kids from basic science which conflicts with the Bible and tribal conservative rhetoric. The public, community schools are a big deal in both states, but probably even more so in Georgia. I think he'll get less backlash in Alabama. Most of these kids I bet are not from Alabama. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HawgGoneIt Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: Hahaha that's fucked up bro. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 I wonder how Franklin Stephens feels right now. Is Dacari Collins gonna leave too? @ATLien12x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, HooverOutlaw said: Most of these kids I bet are not from Alabama. Right. But, the "school" will encounter less push back from the community and regulations. That's my guess, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 I should add that we don't need to give the guy any credit for thinking this through. He's trying to put it in Alabama because that's where he lives. That's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, FootballGuy said: I wonder how Franklin Stephens feels right now. Is Dacari Collins gonna leave too? @ATLien12x Yeah Collins is enrolled now at Westlake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: Yeah Collins is enrolled now at Westlake Wowwwwwww.... McEachern is falling apart by the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 Stephens talked about the challenges of getting so many starred/talented players working together, early on in his stint there, in an interview I read somewhere. He may be glad to have a personality or three gone from there. Sometimes a team is better without as many. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Wowwwwwww.... McEachern is falling apart by the minute. It gets worse, Chief. Ohh... Speaking of Chief. He’s going to Carrollton now Stephens didn’t make friends his first year. I have no specifics or why. But it’s not a coincidence he lost three four stars to three different schools after a 12-1 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, ATLien12x said: It gets worse, Chief. Ohh... Speaking of Chief. He’s going to Carrollton now Stephens didn’t make friends his first year. I have no specifics or why. But it’s not a coincidence he lost three four stars to three different schools after a 12-1 season. For starters Franklin Stephens is a No BS taken no BS given type of coach... The superstar personalities don't fly with him like that... And I feel like he won't be at Mceachern long because of that... Either they'll work with him or against him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, ATLien12x said: It gets worse, Chief. Ohh... Speaking of Chief. He’s going to Carrollton now Stephens didn’t make friends his first year. I have no specifics or why. But it’s not a coincidence he lost three four stars to three different schools after a 12-1 season. Jesus Christ! It's absolute madness over there in Powder Springs. If they have any more D1 guys, I won't be surprised to see them transfer. What's the deal with Marietta? Wasn't.......Daniel Martin and/or Andre Stewart looking at Grayson as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted January 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 Yeah I heard Daniel Martin was. He’d be a game-changer, he has a very high future. His ceiling is higher than CDR. Not sure if it’ll happen or not though. He’s not at Grayson right now 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 23 hours ago, HooverOutlaw said: I personally hope Hoover does not grow any more. Hoover's max is 3550 students we are at 2970 or so right now. I'm happy in our small town. All that metro growth that you live and die with and makes you feel great is not important to me and Hoover. I bet most people who grew up in Gwinnett County wishes it was still like it was back in the 70s. Showing the fact that Grayson has produced more college players than anybody just shows how bad the coaching has been. Example when the team refused to practice. I'm happy only having 4 offcial coaches since the 60s for the Bucs. While Grayson can't keep a Coach. If Hoover did not split in 2002 we would have 5200 kids now. So don't cry about new schools. Spin it how you want. Oh boy, you split once and you want to compare that to all of the new schools in Gwinnett in the past 20 years. Hmmm, let's see. There are properties not far from me that were a part of the original Grayson High School before it was closed. They were then transferred to South Gwinnett when Grayson was consolidated with them back in the late 50s. Then they became part of the new Grayson when it opened in 2000. Then they were moved to Archer in 2009. That means in my lifetime they have been part of 4 different high school zonings. That is just one little area and doesn't take into consideration the rest of the new schools in the county and the redistricting that also goes on in an attempt to balance out the clusters. You don't have a clue about new schools and growth. Even with having several coaches over the past few years we've still managed to win a state championship and 3 region titles in the past 4 years. Not too shabby. And that doesn't even take into account the other state title and I think it is 5 more region championships since Grayson opened in 2000. Not bad at all in an area with a lot of tough competition. There is more top level competition in Gwinnett County than in all of Alabama. Oh, for what it is worth even though it is a different sport, Grayson boys basketball is #1 in the state, #6 overall in the nation, and #1 public in the nation. Yea, we must be doing something wrong here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fred said: Spin it how you want. Oh boy, you split once and you want to compare that to all of the new schools in Gwinnett in the past 20 years. Hmmm, let's see. There are properties not far from me that were a part of the original Grayson High School before it was closed. They were then transferred to South Gwinnett when Grayson was consolidated with them back in the late 50s. Then they became part of the new Grayson when it opened in 2000. Then they were moved to Archer in 2009. That means in my lifetime they have been part of 4 different high school zonings. That is just one little area and doesn't take into consideration the rest of the new schools in the county and the redistricting that also goes on in an attempt to balance out the clusters. You don't have a clue about new schools and growth. Even with having several coaches over the past few years we've still managed to win a state championship and 3 region titles in the past 4 years. Not too shabby. And that doesn't even take into account the other state title and I think it is 5 more region championships since Grayson opened in 2000. Not bad at all in an area with a lot of tough competition. There is more top level competition in Gwinnett County than in all of Alabama. Oh, for what it is worth even though it is a different sport, Grayson boys basketball is #1 in the state, #6 overall in the nation, and #1 public in the nation. Yea, we must be doing something wrong here. Fred...looks like you boys are up to your old tricks from 2016. Say it ain't so !!!!! Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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