thc6795 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hardcore Troubador said: Concha any recommendations for a good history book (or books) about the war? It’s a time period I know very little about. Im not speaking for Conch, but All Quiet on the Western Front, The price of Glory and my favorite A Storm in Flanders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Im not speaking for Conch, but All Quiet on the Western Front, The price of Glory and my favorite A Storm in Flanders Blast from the past - totally forgot that I had to read All Quiet in high school! I’ll look into the other 2. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, Hardcore Troubador said: I had to Read that bad boy in high school! I’ll look into the other 2. Thanks! I believe this is the name of movie I watched. Its not an easy watch but if u wanna see the mental toll of ww1 watch journeys end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 John Keegan is a very good historical writer - has a book The First World War. For a more personal view (written by a German soldier), All is Quiet on the Western Front is a classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Damn I forgot about Once an Eagle, this is a damn good book written by Anton Myrer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Check out The Lost Battalion. All about my grandfather's company...some bad ass wops, mics and pollocks from NYC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, Hardcore Troubador said: Concha any recommendations for a good history book (or books) about the war? It’s a time period I know very little about. The Lost Battalion. Book or movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: Check out The Lost Battalion. All about my grandfather's company...some bad ass wops, mics and pollocks from NYC very good movie never read the book. When they replied to the Germans demand they surrender...NUTS. Fucking classic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: The Lost Battalion. Book or movie. Great movie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 The line where they asked my grandfather how he could run so fast... "You try being a WOP running through a MIC neighborhood!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Also..when the German high command asked why they were suffering such high casualties the reponse was.... That battalion is a bunch of NYC toughs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, I AM IRONMAN said: Also..when the German high command asked why they were suffering such high casualties the reponse was.... That battalion is a bunch of NYC toughs Thugs no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, thc6795 said: Thugs no? Yup..damn auto correct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: You mean slugs, right? I thought they said a bunch of NYC Thugs? Damn mabye it was gangsters. Now Im confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Bormio said: John Keegan is a very good historical writer - has a book The First World War. For a more personal view (written by a German soldier), All is Quiet on the Western Front is a classic Agree on Keegan Also, it's not WWI, but Len Deighton's book Blood, Tears and Folly is a really interesting look at all kinds of aspects of WWII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just saw it. Absolutely a fantastic movie. VERY well done. What was really cool is that there was no cutting to other scenes...it was one long scene with the main characters in every scene in some way. Fuck...I hate to say it, but somebody in Pervertwood got it right with this one. Creative, emotion-provoking (no I didn't cry😥), and entertaining. A epic take on the ghastliness of being in the trenches in WW1. This movie gets a hand salute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 14, 2020 Report Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, thc6795 said: 1917 1988.... Anyone remember Rowdy Roddy ? LOL I just happened to see a clip from this today... "They Live" (1988 came after 1984 lol ) Best line: "I came here to chew bubble gum, and kick some azz.....and I'm all out of gum" 🤣 This odd movie seems more relevant today... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 10 hours ago, I AM IRONMAN said: The first 25 minutes of Saving Private Ryan was the most intense I've ever seen I saw it on opening day and there were lot of tears in that theatre after. Half the crowd just sat there a few minutes when it was over. Several older gentlemen there. I assumed veterans as it really hit them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said: I saw it on opening day and there were lot of tears in that theatre after. Half the crowd just sat there a few minutes when it was over. Several older gentlemen there. I assumed veterans as it really hit them. I experienced the same thing...older vets in front were in tears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 A LOT of these kids lied about their age to join the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: A LOT of these kids lied about their age to join the fight. 19th Century War was “glorious”. 20th Century not so much. In a lot of ways, our Civil War was the first war of the 20th Century. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 56 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: A LOT of these kids lied about their age to join the fight. They loved their country... These liberal hacks nowadays hate it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 12 hours ago, Bormio said: our Civil War was the first war of the 20th Century. True. Ironically, European military observers came over to see what was happening. It was the first major war that included widespread usage of long-range rifled firearms, repeating arms, saw the mass use of trains for transport and the telegraph for communication. War became industrialized. The advancement in the armament of the foot soldier was the big difference. Earlier unrifled musketry couldn't hit the broadside of a battleship. Hence the use of mass discharges by long rows of men at close range. The Civil War saw the introduction of massed rifle-equipped troop formations and the introduction of the minie ball. Effective engagement ranges of 50-100 yards now became 500 yards. Old Napoleonic era tactics turned to (even greater) slaughter. My father used to have a minie ball found at Vicksburg. Massive. For comparison, the typical AR-15/M4 round used by our military today is a 5.56mm (.223) round of about 62 grains. A typical minie ball used in the Civil War was .58 caliber (over 2.5x what our troops now use) and a whopping ~500 grains (or a round about 7.5x the weight). Granted, it was moving much slower than today's bullets, but you were effectively being hit with a cannon round in comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, concha said: True. Ironically, European military observers came over to see what was happening. It was the first major war that included widespread usage of long-range rifled firearms, repeating arms, saw the mass use of trains for transport and the telegraph for communication. War became industrialized. The advancement in the armament of the foot soldier was the big difference. Earlier unrifled musketry couldn't hit the broadside of a battleship. Hence the use of mass discharges by long rows of men at close range. The Civil War saw the introduction of massed rifle-equipped troop formations and the introduction of the minie ball. Effective engagement ranges of 50-100 yards now became 500 yards. Old Napoleonic era tactics turned to (even greater) slaughter. My father used to have a minie ball found at Vicksburg. Massive. For comparison, the typical AR-15/M4 round used by our military today is a 5.56mm (.223) round of about 62 grains. A typical minie ball used in the Civil War was .58 caliber (over 2.5x what our troops now use) and a whopping ~500 grains (or a round about 7.5x the weight). Granted, it was moving much slower than today's bullets, but you were effectively being hit with a cannon round in comparison. These kids being torn to pieces. Then you add the lack of knowledge in the medical field. These kids were having arms and legs cut off for a flesh wound. or dying because of infection. Had to be worse then hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 8:13 AM, I AM IRONMAN said: The Lost Battalion. Book or movie. That was a great movie. That was with Ricky Shroder wasn't it? The character he played was the true definition of a great leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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