MaxPreps seems to have noted a Montverde forfeiture with the wrong Montverde team...

[BigDrop]

It now appears that the forfeiture that MaxPreps listed on the Montverde schedule was actually for a different Montverde team-not the one who is undefeated and ranked #1.  

Apologies for the following thread but there now seems to be clarification.

[The Guru]

I'll get right on that and let you know.

[imaGoodBoyNow]

16 minutes ago, BigDrop said:

Undefeated prior to this and now MaxPreps shows them with a forfeit.  Nothing on the internet.  Anybody know why?

Other news img was trending few nights ago on twitter , lol 😂 this team looks like the Space Jam Monsters 

 

 

how come everyone talks about img football and not img basketball 

 

these kids look ELITE

[AztecPadre]

1 hour ago, imaGoodBoyNow said:

Other news img was trending few nights ago on twitter , lol 😂 this team looks like the Space Jam Monsters 

 

 

how come everyone talks about img football and not img basketball 

 

these kids look ELITE

#4 LOL!

[954gator]

2 hours ago, imaGoodBoyNow said:

how come everyone talks about img football and not img basketball 

 

these kids look ELITE

They are an excellent team, they just play second fiddle to Montverde in Fl.

 

[954gator]

Whats funny is looking at the maxprep rankings for basketball. 

The Xcellent 25 (human) 

1 Cali team in top 10

Computer Poll 

5 Cali teams in top 10 🤦‍♂️ 

 

I guess the computers don’t just favor the Cali teams in football 😂

 

 

[BigDrop]

NM

[954gator]

@BigDrop Montverde beat IMG 3 times this year.   

MOV: 8,12, 21

Don’t think people really care about a forfeit loss.   Not much info on it so no idea what happened.

[imaGoodBoyNow]

2 minutes ago, 954gator said:

@BigDrop Montverde beat IMG 3 times this year.   

MOV: 8,12, 21

Don’t think people really care about a forfeit loss.   Not much info on it so no idea what happened.

You would think there would be something on Twitter but there’s not

[FootballGuy]

1 hour ago, BigDrop said:

This is a significant forfeit.  Montverde was undefeated.  Their smallest margin of victory was 8 points (IMG).  Their second smallest was DeMatha (20) points.  Arguably they are one of the strongest high school basketball teams in many years.

Yet they sacrifice a season like this with a forfeit. A home forfeit.

What happened?

If this is true, most people aren't gonna see this as an actual loss. Other than that, do you think any team in the top 25 can beat Montverde? 

[MA Fan]

The Minnesota Prep game is listed on their CBD (prep/postgrad) team schedule, not their high school team schedule:

https://mvasports.com/sports/cbdnatl/schedule

This article says that their high school team's regular season concluded with the St. James tournament in Hagerstown, as they are at the FHSAA's 25-game limit:

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/highschool/boys-basketball/os-sp-hs-montverde-perfect-0201-20200202-qybonffnv5b3dfgdwz2z7tegia-story.html?outputType=amp

[MA Fan]

Meanwhile here's Minnesota Prep's claim:

https://www.twitter.com/MinnPrepAcademy/status/1224836646992076800

[954gator]

So what’s the deal with post graduate basketball?   An extra year of HS to get better?   So kids can play 5 years?  

[HooverOutlaw]

How can you lose a game that never took place? Cullman no showed Hoover in basketball a few years ago called about 3 in the afternoon game day and said we are not coming. We did not take it as a forfeit just never scheduled them again.

[MA Fan]

48 minutes ago, 954gator said:

So what’s the deal with post graduate basketball?   An extra year of HS to get better?   So kids can play 5 years?  

Blue-blood boarding schools in the Northeast have brought in postgrad athletes forever--they help your rich kids beat other rich kids, and you help them acquire the boorish manners of a Yalie.

The postgrad basketball thing for big-time prospects took off in the late 80's, I think in connection with the NCAA passing Prop 48 in 1986. It offered a way for players to meet NCAA freshman eligibility standards instead of going to a Juco. It was mostly a New England (NEPSAC) thing for mostly non-blue-blood boarding schools. The military schools in Virginia like Hargrave and Fork Union have had powerful postgrad programs for a long time too.

At some point the NCAA limited how much you could improve your transcipt after graduating high school, and with reclassifying and repeating a year becoming more common, the postgrad-heavy basketball programs declined. But there's been a resurgence the last few years, with IMG and Montverde adding strong teams and also some of the more obscure (sketchier?) new programs adding postgrad teams because why not have a postgrad team.

Anyway, it can be be useful for kids that have some academic issues that can be fixed under NCAA rules, kids that were under-recruited for some reason, kids that were young for their grade and could use an extra year of physical development, kids who are deluded but whose tuition checks still clear.

[HooverOutlaw]

46 minutes ago, 954gator said:

So what’s the deal with post graduate basketball?   An extra year of HS to get better?   So kids can play 5 years?  

Kids with grade or ACT issues ?

[954gator]

36 minutes ago, MA Fan said:

Blue-blood boarding schools in the Northeast have brought in postgrad athletes forever--they help your rich kids beat other rich kids, and you help them acquire the boorish manners of a Yalie.

The postgrad basketball thing for big-time prospects took off in the late 80's, I think in connection with the NCAA passing Prop 48 in 1986. It offered a way for players to meet NCAA freshman eligibility standards instead of going to a Juco. It was mostly a New England (NEPSAC) thing for mostly non-blue-blood boarding schools. The military schools in Virginia like Hargrave and Fork Union have had powerful postgrad programs for a long time too.

At some point the NCAA limited how much you could improve your transcipt after graduating high school, and with reclassifying and repeating a year becoming more common, the postgrad-heavy basketball programs declined. But there's been a resurgence the last few years, with IMG and Montverde adding strong teams and also some of the more obscure (sketchier?) new programs adding postgrad teams because why not have a postgrad team.

Anyway, it can be be useful for kids that have some academic issues that can be fixed under NCAA rules, kids that were under-recruited for some reason, kids that were young for their grade and could use an extra year of physical development, kids who are deluded but whose tuition checks still clear.

Interesting, so basically kids can get 5 years of Basketball at the high school level.   I wonder why basketball gets the special treatment here. 

 

[MA Fan]

17 minutes ago, 954gator said:

Interesting, so basically kids can get 5 years of Basketball at the high school level.   I wonder why basketball gets the special treatment 

Plenty of football players doing an extra year, Fork Union for example has had a ton of postgrads go on to the NFL:

https://athletics.forkunion.com/sports/2017/9/7/fuma-alumni-in-the-nfl.aspx

[954gator]

1 minute ago, MA Fan said:

Plenty of football players doing an extra year, Fork Union for example has had a ton of postgrads go on to the NFL:

https://athletics.forkunion.com/sports/2017/9/7/fuma-alumni-in-the-nfl.aspx

interesting good stuff thanks. 

[BigDrop]

3 hours ago, MA Fan said:

The Minnesota Prep game is listed on their CBD (prep/postgrad) team schedule, not their high school team schedule:

https://mvasports.com/sports/cbdnatl/schedule

This article says that their high school team's regular season concluded with the St. James tournament in Hagerstown, as they are at the FHSAA's 25-game limit:

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/highschool/boys-basketball/os-sp-hs-montverde-perfect-0201-20200202-qybonffnv5b3dfgdwz2z7tegia-story.html?outputType=amp

https://mobile.twitter.com/MinnPrepAcademy/status/1224836646992076800

 https://mobile.twitter.com/MinnPrepAcademy

(scroll down to the video of February 4th which announces “game day 6:00pm EST.”)

https://mobile.twitter.com/MVABasketball Is Montverde’s tweet of February 3rd announcing the next day’s game.

 

 

[MA Fan]

26 minutes ago, BigDrop said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MinnPrepAcademy/status/1224836646992076800

 https://mobile.twitter.com/MinnPrepAcademy

(scroll down to the video of February 4th which announces “game day 6:00pm EST.”)

https://mobile.twitter.com/MVABasketball Is Montverde’s tweet of February 3rd announcing the next day’s game.

Montverde's tweet from February 3rd lists the game as their "CBD National" team. That is their prep team, which includes a former Gonzaga player:

https://mvasports.com/sports/cbdnatl/roster

A day or two before that they tweeted a link to the Orlando Sentinel article about their high school team completing an undefeated regular season.

No idea what the real story is, but surely you know that something being posted on Maxpreps doesn't make it official.

[BigDrop]

7 minutes ago, MA Fan said:

Montverde's tweet from February 3rd lists the game as their "CBD National" team. That is their prep team, which includes a former Gonzaga player:

https://mvasports.com/sports/cbdnatl/roster

A day or two before that they tweeted a link to the Orlando Sentinel article about their high school team completing an undefeated regular season.

No idea what the real story is, but surely you know that something being posted on Maxpreps doesn't make it official.

After an hour or two of scrolling the internet it now looks like this was a matter of MaxPreps confusing their “CBD” team (“center for basketball development”) with the team we typically think of as Montverde Academy.  The Minnesota team seems to have had a forfeiture with the CBD team not the “national” team.

Montverde has a lot of basketball teams.

[BigDrop]

52 minutes ago, MA Fan said:

Plenty of football players doing an extra year, Fork Union for example has had a ton of postgrads go on to the NFL:

https://athletics.forkunion.com/sports/2017/9/7/fuma-alumni-in-the-nfl.aspx

Fork Union has (or at least used to) two football teams.  One is the high school which DeMatha played back in the ‘90’s (I saw the game) and the other is the team which includes post graduates.  It is this last team with 5th year players that I believe most of the NFL players have come from.

[hardhit1]

22 minutes ago, BigDrop said:

After an hour or two of scrolling the internet it now looks like this was a matter of MaxPreps confusing their “CBD” team (“center for basketball development”) with the team we typically think of as Montverde Academy.  The Minnesota team seems to have had a forfeiture with the CBD team not the “national” team.

Montverde has a lot of basketball teams.

Damn Drop who was confusing and started this thread? 

in 2 hours you could have walked around the block, had 2 glasses of wine or watched an X rated movie. Then done the other two😀

[BigDrop]

59 minutes ago, hardhit1 said:

Damn Drop who was confusing and started this thread? 

in 2 hours you could have walked around the block, had 2 glasses of wine or watched an X rated movie. Then done the other two😀

I’m editing the title out of fairness to Montverde.