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Here is an Indian exposing B.S. Not in 1885 either.  Should he just get over it because some white man in Europe fucked over people there as well.  That is the most stupid argument ever when one address the hypocrisy in America.  He is a Proud Man talking to people that hate him and You can see it in their faces.  He is talking to 4 walls. 

Read the comments of the people of this video.  

Just one comment:  The Congress is looking at him with so much disdain and hatred. They're hearing him, but not listening to what he's saying.

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1 hour ago, DevilDog said:

  I bet 90% of you have no idea about this.  The only American City to be bombed by air. These  Racist dropped Dynamite from Airplanes.   Even to this day Blacks are affected. This is their reality because their Grand Parents told them about this hidden B.S.  GUESS WHO DIDN'T WANT TO DISCUSS IT.  THEY WEREN'T THERE SO WHY THE FEAR.  IT'S THE SUPREMACY COMPLEX.  I KNOW TURN THE OTHER CHEEK AND GET OVER IT. The most ridiculous statements uttered to people.   These were brutal damn racist.  

 

DD always bringing the knowledgeable history 👍

Had relatives in Tulsa for a while, even visited there, and never knew that history. 🤷‍♂️

 

Just a thought, but as far as contemporary goes...one could easily hold similar (while NOT comparable levels) of disdain for say China for the current economic raping of Africa....  As an example of what I indicated above, it's easily fair game to place blame on that government....But not so sure that (man to man) I could hold that against a Chinese citizen....

Some? surely...... but probably not all.

Hate to be redundant...but all the generalizing Europeans Europeans stuff, didn't really tell me who the 'real' scumbags really were...  🤷‍♂️ 

As I said.... Just a thought.

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2 hours ago, DevilDog said:

I didn't address you once or mention you name.  Throw a rock in a pile of Dogs and the hit dog will Yelp.

As an aside...I'd be careful tossing this one around....

If you didn't believe my prior proof that this is not 'always' the case, you can consider the fact that this OP's whole thread....

was a rock...

 

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Well, DD has had his expected fit.

 

So, DD...

1) I have never claimed that all white people are perfect nor not racist..

2) Unlike you, I don't go out of my way (repeatedly) to try to paint certain peoples as evil and, through glaring omission, portray other folks (including the one I happen to be a member of) as all sweetness and light.

3) I only write this stuff in response to your screeds.

 

For example:

Why are white racists put front and center as representative of those who look like them in skin tone, yet folks like white abolitionists consistently ignored?

Why are black victims of racism and heroic figures depicted loud and proud,  yet black slave owners and the blacks in Africa who actually did the original enslaving left out?

Is this "whataboutism" or your very selective (and through omission, arguably racist) approach to history?  

 

 

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5 hours ago, Troll said:

As an aside...I'd be careful tossing this one around....

If you didn't believe my prior proof that this is not 'always' the case, you can consider the fact that this OP's whole thread....

was a rock...

 

you wouldn't have lasted in Bayonne

straight-up faggot

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This has all the makings of yet another double-talk D VS crying concha debate on who isn't' the real racist....

Quick summary before this thread expands to 100 pages. 

They BOTH stink of it. 

I just hope double-talk D doesn't post pictures of Aztec slaves again and portray them as civil war slaves. 

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1 hour ago, Testadura said:

you wouldn't have lasted in Bayonne

straight-up faggot

 

 

 

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BTW: I used to have some Polish friends from Bayonne....

never had a problem there....you had some? 

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Is sodomy still illegal in most countries? 

It's terrible how all you straight people have treated homosexuals. But you never see any threads about it. I wonder why. 

Homophobes. 

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1 minute ago, Belly Bob said:

Is sodomy still illegal in most countries? 

It's terrible how all you straight people have treated homosexuals. But you never see any threads about it. I wonder why. 

Homophobes. 

 

I, for one, have no issue with your personal preference, BB.

Just appreciate you keeping it in the bedroom.

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23 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

Is sodomy still illegal in most countries? 

It's terrible how all you straight people have treated homosexuals. But you never see any threads about it. I wonder why. 

Homophobes. 

Not only was the post not addressed to him...but the name was even intentionally left out...

I Guess that didn't make the post rhetorical enough 🤣

shining your own spotlight...💡

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4 hours ago, concha said:

 

Well, DD has had his expected fit.

 

So, DD...

1) I have never claimed that all white people are perfect nor not racist..

2) Unlike you, I don't go out of my way (repeatedly) to try to paint certain peoples as evil and, through glaring omission, portray other folks (including the one I happen to be a member of) as all sweetness and light.

3) I only write this stuff in response to your screeds.

 

For example:

Why are white racists put front and center as representative of those who look like them in skin tone, yet folks like white abolitionists consistently ignored?

Why are black victims of racism and heroic figures depicted loud and proud,  yet black slave owners and the blacks in Africa who actually did the original enslaving left out?

Is this "whataboutism" or your very selective (and through omission, arguably racist) approach to history?  

 

 

There are a lot of B.S. by a lot of people. The slavery that I know is American Slavery.  If there is a discussion on that I will pontificate.  Stop associating yourself with racist and it will not hurt your feelings. Go ahead and list atrocities by Africans or any Minorities it will not ruffle one feather with me.  Guilt by association is as bad as the associate IMHO.    

I understand American History and I look at it differently as do most Black People.  Those are just the facts.  I know because I have intimate conversations with them often and am involved in various study groups for various reasons that is not even worth listing here.  I said my peace and I have never felt the need to stymie my thoughts based of the precepts and concepts of others. What that does is lead you to their tutelage and their guidance. Which is in their best interest not my own.  

The infancy of the birth of this Nation was in fact Racism. Ask  any Black Person.  We don't love the Founding Fathers.  We love Banneker, Douglas, Tubman and Turner.  You don't have the same relevance of them as we do and I get that and understand that. Make people uncomfortable is in fact a way to solve problems.  GO read the The Advantage by Patrick Lencioni.   My mentor in this subject matter was far involved in this than you can imagine.  HE WAS A GIANT in the Struggle.  Believe me I know my History and the sufferings that were just damn horrific and not in 1865.  And Yes America has come a long way no doubt about that.  Stop taking shit personal and your Blood Pressure will be much better.  This is a side of the Forum is reserved for a subset that promulgates lies and falsehoods each day ad nauseam,  Truth be told it is an B.S Fest each day of White Male Right Wingers vs. White Male Left Wingers sling vitriol each day.  That's your right as you have always felt your opinions carried more weight than others.  Fuck the Left and Right they are the same with different color Ties one Blue and one Red and will flip at a moments notice.  I just finished reading a book on LBJ.  YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED WITH THE B.S. IN THE 60'S AND 70'S CONCERNING CIVIL RIGHTS.  So yes have a  knowledge of history leaves a distaste and of course it should not be the same for you.   

Now go back to calling all the left Wing guys like you Names.  It's comical to me and you both run with it for days, weeks and Months.  But one dissenting voice from me calling out some B.S. incite your inner Bull Connor. 🤣  Is this where I should say my best friend is White to make you feel good?  My friends are multi-hued.  I am as comfortable in the home of a Rich Pakistani eating Goat Biryani as I am in the home of a Rich White Male eating Steak.  By the way I have each as friends.  And I am very admired by them because of my knowledge and ability to help them make this Capitalistic Money.  I am 100% a CAPITALIST TO THE FULLEST.  Pointing out facts is not hatred. DID TULSA GET FUCKED UP OR NOT.  My arrogance and Knowledge has been extremely beneficial to my success. 

Now get back to your privilege of saying nasty Shit to people each day on here and stop giving me your Tutelage. I wholeheartedly reject it.    

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2 hours ago, concha said:

 

I, for one, have no issue with your personal preference, BB.

Just appreciate you keeping it in the bedroom.

👍

 

If that's supposed to be a joke at my expense, which I think it is, then you have revealed yourself as a homophobe, sir, since suggesting that I'm homosexual would be humorous only to those who think that homosexuality itself is to be ridiculed, which it is isn't. 

Keep it up, and I'll report you to the moderators. 

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6 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

If that's supposed to be a joke at my expense, which I think it is, then you have revealed yourself as a homophobe, sir, since suggesting that I'm homosexual would be humorous only to those who think that homosexuality itself is to be ridiculed, which it is isn't. 

Keep it up, and I'll report you to the moderators. 

 

Go right ahead.

Some of the people I love most in the world are gay. And have a sense of humor.

Do your worst.

 

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2 hours ago, Troll said:

Not only was the post not addressed to him...but the name was even intentionally left out...

I Guess that didn't make the post rhetorical enough 🤣

shining your own spotlight...💡

[...]

What happened? I haven't been paying attention. I thought you guys would've been friends who shared similar political values.

Now he's calling you a faggot and telling you that you couldn't have survived in a certain town?

Is @Testadura the new @Big Bald Hairy Man?

If you wouldn't have made it Bayonne, then you'd have no chance in Panama, I can tell you that. 

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1 minute ago, concha said:

 

Go right ahead.

Some of the people I love most in the world are gay. And have a sense of humor.

Do your worst.

Power bottom? 

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1 hour ago, Belly Bob said:

What happened? I haven't been paying attention. I thought you guys would've been friends who shared similar political values.

Now he's calling you a faggot and telling you that you couldn't have survived in a certain town?

 

good question...

my only guess, is that he has not figured it out quite yet...

you know...

that for most posts,  I  "reply in like kind" ....

 

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Thought everybody knew that 😏

 

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1 hour ago, DevilDog said:

There are a lot of B.S. by a lot of people. The slavery that I know is American Slavery.  If there is a discussion on that I will pontificate.  Stop associating yourself with racist and it will not hurt your feelings. Go ahead and list atrocities by Africans or any Minorities it will not ruffle one feather with me.  Guilt by association is as bad as the associate IMHO.    

That is at the heart of it right here.  I've never understood the need to defend or deflect or whataboutism concerning racism.  I doubt this strategy makes people feel any better and is not helpful to anybody IMO.  The ability to actually listen and to have at least some empathy is required and that so few are willing to do so is just another wasted opportunity to have a common understanding.  

To those who are tired of hearing about racism, consider how tiring it is to have to deal with racism and having to explain it to those with guilty/hurt feelings.  It cost absolutely nothing to listen and believe those who are telling you what their experiences are, and in doing so your guilt will decrease and your knowledge and shared humanity can only increase.  Again, this costs nothing and is as simple as changing your thoughts about it.  

Appreciating the knowledge brother.  

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8 hours ago, RedZone said:

This has all the makings of yet another double-talk D VS crying concha debate on who isn't' the real racist....

Quick summary before this thread expands to 100 pages. 

They BOTH stink of it. 

I just hope double-talk D doesn't post pictures of Aztec slaves again and portray them as civil war slaves. 

Says one of the two confirmed racists.

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1 hour ago, World Citizen said:

That is at the heart of it right here.  *** 

[What you wrote seems better suited for 1950 or 1960.  I liked the essence of your post and where your heart is.  Just some comments:]

That is at the heart of it right here.  I've never understood the need to defend or deflect or whataboutism concerning racism.  [The universities politicized race, gender, sexual preference since at least 1967.  From there, it went mainstream.  It's a politicized issue most of the time.  Professors in those courses of study will say it's political.  Man is the political animal.  Aristotle.I doubt this strategy makes people feel any better and is not helpful to anybody IMO.  [Politicization is not helpful.]  The ability to actually listen and to have at least some empathy is required and that so few are willing to do so is just another wasted opportunity to have a common understanding.  [People do listen.  The radio is constantly blaring and playing.  DD's posts are very good and informative, but you didn't read what he wrote:  "I understand American History and I look at it differently as do most Black People.  Those are just the facts."  Essentially, listening to whites' "precepts and concepts of others * * * lead you to their tutelage and their guidance.  Which is in their best interest not my own.  * * *  You don't have the same relevance of them as we do and I get that and understand that.  * * *  This is a side of the Forum is reserved for a subset that promulgates lies and falsehoods each day ad nauseam.  * * *  So yes have a knowledge of history and leaves a distaste and of course it should not be the same for you.  * * *  Now get back to your privilege of saying nasty Shit to people on here and stop giving me your Tutelage.  I whole heartedly reject it."  So, you said "common understanding," but his anger aside, DD isn't down for that, and I'm not saying he should be.  It's like you're white-splaining his clear message into what you'd like it to say--it doesn't.  He understandably--like Stokely Carmichael and Malcolm X didn't--doesn't need well-meaning whites helping him draw conclusions and deliver his message.  That's a major part of his point.  Being nice to him and patronizing him aren't the same as respecting him.]

To those who are tired of hearing about racism, consider how tiring it is to have to deal with racism and having to explain it to those with guilty/hurt feelings.  [???]  It cost absolutely nothing to listen and believe [That's not true.] those who are telling you what their experiences are [Most people know more about the history of slavery and the Holocaust than they do about The Federalist Papers, or how exactly capitalism beat out socialism, or why our form of gov't has beat out all others, or why our nation is the most successful and free by most measures, etc.], and in doing so your guilt will decrease [I wasn't guilty to begin with, as I understand guilt used here to mean, and listening without knowing why I'm listening isn't as productive as listening with a purpose.  Teaching history is a truth-driven, not selective, endeavor.  If there's an agenda, and I'm not saying DD has one, then listening is costly on some level.] and your knowledge and shared humanity can only increase.  [It really depends.  DD is passionate and enlightened in a certain direction.  He admittedly and summarily dismisses anything contextual or contrarian or somewhat off-message as simple false white history.  So, read his words, please, and do not think what you thought he meant or think what you'd like him to have meant; and then decide.] Again, this costs nothing and is as simple as changing your thoughts about it.  [You can fill in this bracket by yourself by now.  No one disagrees that slavery was probably the worst atrocity.  What more???  Only so much time to learn so many other things.  Father Time is always ticking--we can't read and learn everything.  Black history is a small part of being educated.  Even Obama would agree with that.  When is the subject temporarily exhausted so people can move to unlearned and ignored people, events, and ideas.  I think that reading Shakespeare and Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man taught me more about black people and our common humanity than did "Eyes on the Prize" or Toni Morrison, although the Song of Solomon was terrific--both were.]

Appreciating the knowledge brother.  [It's always good to be gracious to a good man like DD.]

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21 hours ago, DevilDog said:

There are a lot of B.S. by a lot of people. The slavery that I know is American Slavery.  If there is a discussion on that I will pontificate.  Stop associating yourself with racist and it will not hurt your feelings. [And who are the racists I associate with?] Go ahead and list atrocities by Africans or any Minorities it will not ruffle one feather with me. [Yeah. It doesn't seem to bother you in the slightest. 🤣  👍  ] Guilt by association is as bad as the associate IMHO.    

I understand American History and I look at it differently as do most Black People.  Those are just the facts.  I know because I have intimate conversations with them often and am involved in various study groups for various reasons that is not even worth listing here.  I said my peace and I have never felt the need to stymie my thoughts based of the precepts and concepts of others. What that does is lead you to their tutelage and their guidance. Which is in their best interest not my own.  

The infancy of the birth of this Nation was in fact Racism. [Well, it was actually religious freedom. But you run with that.] Ask  any Black Person.  We don't love the Founding Fathers.  We love Banneker, Douglas, Tubman and Turner.  You don't have the same relevance of them as we do and I get that and understand that. Make people uncomfortable is in fact a way to solve problems.  GO read the The Advantage by Patrick Lencioni.   My mentor in this subject matter was far involved in this than you can imagine.  HE WAS A GIANT in the Struggle.  Believe me I know my History and the sufferings that were just damn horrific and not in 1865.  And Yes America has come a long way no doubt about that.  Stop taking shit personal and your Blood Pressure will be much better. [My blood pressure isn't affected a bit. You seem to lose your shit though.] This is a side of the Forum is reserved for a subset that promulgates lies and falsehoods each day ad nauseam,  Truth be told it is an B.S Fest each day of White Male Right Wingers vs. White Male Left Wingers sling vitriol each day.  [So everyone over here is Whitey?  Really? I'll bet there's several guys over on this forum regularly who are surprised to find out about their melanin deficiencies.] That's your right as you have always felt your opinions carried more weight than others.  Fuck the Left and Right they are the same with different color Ties one Blue and one Red and will flip at a moments notice.  I just finished reading a book on LBJ.  YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED WITH THE B.S. IN THE 60'S AND 70'S CONCERNING CIVIL RIGHTS.  So yes have a  knowledge of history leaves a distaste and of course it should not be the same for you.   

Now go back to calling all the left Wing guys like you Names.  It's comical to me and you both run with it for days, weeks and Months.  But one dissenting voice from me calling out some B.S. incite your inner Bull Connor. 🤣  [ I call out racist and racial bullshit when I see it.  I have put a guy on ignore for calling YOU a n*****.  And he's not the only racist asshat I've done it to.  But I point out YOUR bullshit and now I'm Bull Connor?  LMAO. Eat a dick, DD] Is this where I should say my best friend is White to make you feel good? [I don't give a shit what color your best friend is]  My friends are multi-hued.  I am as comfortable in the home of a Rich Pakistani eating Goat Biryani as I am in the home of a Rich White Male eating Steak.  By the way I have each as friends.  And I am very admired by them because of my knowledge and ability to help them make this Capitalistic Money.  I am 100% a CAPITALIST TO THE FULLEST. [Total tangent, but that's super I guess]  Pointing out facts is not hatred. [Depends on how you do it.]  DID TULSA GET FUCKED UP OR NOT. [Are you asking me? I don't recall calling that into question.]  My arrogance and Knowledge has been extremely beneficial to my success. [Good for you.]

Now get back to your privilege of saying nasty Shit to people each day on here and stop giving me your Tutelage. I wholeheartedly reject it.    [And I'll keep giving it anyway.]

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On 2/13/2020 at 10:54 AM, Testadura said:

I think most people know history. 

 

No, they dont. "Most people" couldn't care less about history. 

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7 minutes ago, rockinl said:

No, they dont. "Most people" couldn't care less about history. 

Thank you for saying "couldn't" most people using that phrase say "could"

I applaud you sir! 😂

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38 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said:

Thank you for saying "couldn't" most people using that phrase say "could"

I applaud you sir! 😂

Haha. This is my only comment on this over generalized, redundant, never-ending, will never be solved, bullshit conversation. Fuck the skin color, PEOPLE WANT POWER. Always have, always will. The end.

Now,  these pseudo intellects can go back to their slap fest.

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5 minutes ago, rockinl said:

Haha. This is my only comment on this over generalized, redundant, never-ending, will never be solved, bullshit conversation. Fuck the skin color, PEOPLE WANT POWER. Always have, always will. The end.

Now,  these pseudo intellects can go back to their slap fest.

Well said...save the world on a high school football forum!😂

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