Anybody tried to buy a face mask recently?

[BigDrop]

Especially #95 or 99?  

Perhaps when people realize that something like this is virtually impossible to do they may begin to take the coronavirus more seriously.  And, that we are a year or more away from a vaccine.

[NorCalRuss]

1 minute ago, BigDrop said:

Especially #95 or 99?  

Perhaps when people realize that something like this is virtually impossible to do they may begin to take the coronavirus more seriously.  And, that we are a year or more away from a vaccine.

Do you wear one now for the common  flu? Serious question being it’s a much bigger problem...

 

[BigDrop]

13 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said:

Do you wear one now for the common  flu? Serious question being it’s a much bigger problem...

 

The common flu didn’t totally shut down much of China, close schools in northern Italy or threaten materials delivery to countless American factories (auto, pharmaceutical, steel, etc.). Empty seats on airplanes, hotel rooms, cancelled soccer matches in 75,000 seat stadiums....

I just hope everyone reading this fully understands how serious this is and prepares for as best they can.  

One example:  if you depend on a particular medicine (I.e. blood pressure) you must know that a significant number of the raw ingredients come from China.  Much of this has stopped.  Check with your doctor and while prescriptions are still available stock up with a 90 day supply if you can.

One real example out of many.

[NorCalRuss]

1 minute ago, BigDrop said:

The common flu didn’t totally shut down much of China, close schools in northern Italy or threaten materials delivery to countless American factories (auto, pharmaceutical, steel, etc.). Empty seats on airplanes, hotel rooms, cancelled soccer matches in 75,000 seat stadiums....

I just hope everyone reading this fully understands how serious this is and prepares for as best they can.  

One example:  if you depend on a particular medicine (I.e. blood pressure) you must know that a significant number of the raw ingredients come from China.  Much of this has stopped.  Check with your doctor and while prescriptions are still available stock up with a 90 day supply if you can.

Revisit this post in 30-90 days.... It will be there with NK nuclear war and Russian hookers and ....

[BigDrop]

30 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said:

Revisit this post in 30-90 days.... It will be there with NK nuclear war and Russian hookers and ....

I am sorry but I gave a lengthy serious answer that I hoped (and still do) could possibly help someone reading it.

[Cat_Scratch]

39 minutes ago, BigDrop said:

The common flu didn’t totally shut down much of China, close schools in northern Italy or threaten materials delivery to countless American factories (auto, pharmaceutical, steel, etc.). Empty seats on airplanes, hotel rooms, cancelled soccer matches in 75,000 seat stadiums....

I just hope everyone reading this fully understands how serious this is and prepares for as best they can.  

One example:  if you depend on a particular medicine (I.e. blood pressure) you must know that a significant number of the raw ingredients come from China.  Much of this has stopped.  Check with your doctor and while prescriptions are still available stock up with a 90 day supply if you can.

One real example out of many.

Not saying it is the same or worse than the flu, but anything messing with your RNA is never good.

A Novel Coronavirus from Patients with Pneumonia in China, 2019

List of authors.

Na Zhu, Ph.D., 

Dingyu Zhang, M.D., 

Wenling Wang, Ph.D., 

Xingwang Li, M.D., 

Bo Yang, M.S., 

Jingdong Song, Ph.D., 

Xiang Zhao, Ph.D., 

Baoying Huang, Ph.D., 

Weifeng Shi, Ph.D., 

Roujian Lu, M.D., 

Peihua Niu, Ph.D., 

Faxian Zhan, Ph.D., 

et al., for the China Novel Coronavirus Investigating and Research Team

In December 2019, a cluster of patients with pneumonia of unknown cause was linked to a seafood wholesale market in Wuhan, China. A previously unknown betacoronavirus was discovered through the use of unbiased sequencing in samples from patients with pneumonia. Human airway epithelial cells were used to isolate a novel coronavirus, named 2019-nCoV, which formed a clade within the subgenus sarbecovirus, Orthocoronavirinae subfamily. Different from both MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV, 2019-nCoV is the seventh member of the family of coronaviruses that infect humans. Enhanced surveillance and further investigation are ongoing. (Funded by the National Key Research and Development Program of China and the National Major Project for Control and Prevention of Infectious Disease in China.)

Emerging and reemerging pathogens are global challenges for public health.1 Coronaviruses are enveloped RNA viruses that are distributed broadly among humans, other mammals, and birds and that cause respiratory, enteric, hepatic, and neurologic diseases.2,3 Six coronavirus species are known to cause human disease.4 Four viruses — 229E, OC43, NL63, and HKU1 — are prevalent and typically cause common cold symptoms in immunocompetent individuals.4 The two other strains — severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) — are zoonotic in origin and have been linked to sometimes fatal illness.5 SARS-CoV was the causal agent of the severe acute respiratory syndrome outbreaks in 2002 and 2003 in Guangdong Province, China.6-8MERS-CoV was the pathogen responsible for severe respiratory disease outbreaks in 2012 in the Middle East.9 Given the high prevalence and wide distribution of coronaviruses, the large genetic diversity and frequent recombination of their genomes, and increasing human–animal interface activities, novel coronaviruses are likely to emerge periodically in humans owing to frequent cross-species infections and occasional spillover events.5,10

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001017

I suggest reading this article... You may even learn something. 

[NorCalRuss]

18 minutes ago, BigDrop said:

I am sorry but I gave a lengthy serious answer that I hoped (and still do) could possibly help someone reading it.

And you didn’t answer my question.... Common flu kills approx 500k a year worldwide... Why are you not more concerned with that? 

[BigDrop]

4 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said:

And you didn’t answer my question.... Common flu kills approx 500k a year worldwide... Why are you not more concerned with that? 

My wife and I have received flu shots every year for more than 20.  At least there is s vaccine; the coronavirus vaccine is a year + away.  Also, currently the rate of death for the common flu is approximately .1% or less.  Thus far the coronovirus seems to be 2.0%+..   It is also suspected that the actual symptoms manifest themself more intensely.  While it is possible (but not known yet) that the coronavirus may be easier to transmit yet more research needs to be done on this.

[Cat_Scratch]

Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year, according to a new estimate that's higher than the previous one of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths a year.

The new figures from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other groups were published Dec. 13 in The Lancet medical journal.

The updated numbers, which do not include deaths during flu pandemics, are based on more recent data from a larger and more diverse group of countries than the previous estimate, the CDC said.

The data came from 33 countries that have 57 percent of the world's population and had seasonal flu numbers for a minimum of four years between 1999 and 2015. That information was used to create an estimate of flu-related respiratory deaths in 185 countries worldwide.

The study found that the risk of flu-related death was highest in the poorest regions of the world and among older adults.

"These findings remind us of the seriousness of flu and that flu prevention should really be a global priority," study co-author Dr. Joe Bresee, associate director for global health in CDC's Influenza Division, said in a CDC news release.

[Cat_Scratch]

Human trials testing a potential vaccine for the COVID-19 coronavirus are expected to begin in six weeks, U.S. health officials announced Tuesday.

“We are on time at least and maybe even a little bit better,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, an agency within the Department of Health and Human Services, told reporters at a press conference. “Hopefully, no further glitches.”

The White House reportedly asked Congress on Monday for $1.25 billion in additional funding to bolster its coronavirus response, including money to develop a vaccine and therapeutics to treat the virus. The National Institutes of Health has been working with biotech company Moderna to develop a vaccine using the current strain of the coronavirus.

[The Guru]

11 hours ago, NorCalRuss said:

And you didn’t answer my question.... Common flu kills approx 500k a year worldwide... Why are you not more concerned with that? 

Because he's much smarter than you and seems to understand the difference between an epidemic and a pandemic.

[Rippers]

On 2/27/2020 at 6:53 PM, BigDrop said:

Especially #95 or 99?  

Perhaps when people realize that something like this is virtually impossible to do they may begin to take the coronavirus more seriously.  And, that we are a year or more away from a vaccine.

A mask is not necessarily going to protect you.  Washing your hands is more important.  As of now, this is understood to be transmitted via droplet or contact of the droplets.  So, a mask will keep these droplets from spreading if you are already sick, but it won't keep them from getting on you.  If it eventually is determined to be airborne, a mask STILL will not protect the wearer as the airborne particles are small enough to pass through the woven fabric of the mask.  An N95 will offer more protection, but those need to be custom fitted and buying one OTC could end up doing more harm than good (especially if the wearer thinks they are safe, therefore taking less caution).  A PABR would be the safer choice, but who is going to walk around wearing a respirator?

The human body is interesting; its water proof and washable.  Avoid unnecessary contact, cover your coughs and sneezes, don't touch your face and use hand sanitizer along with hand washing throughout the day.  If you are at work in an office, wipe down surfaces before touching.  All of those are safer options than walking around wearing a mask.

 

[HawgGoneIt]

We always see the same standard rope a dope with this crowd. 

Look at the flu! Don't worry about this new corona virus thing. 

It's fucking silly as hell. We are and have become accustomed to the flu, but, this new corona virus is new and potentially has a higher death rate. It definitely deserves honest coverage and to be paid attention to. 

This one is different from the flu because it doesn't require the host to be presenting with symptoms to be spread. The flu generally is spread only when there is active symptoms like fever. This at least gives others some warning, and sensible folks that have a fever and body aches don't generally go out into the public spreading the bug. 

If you don't yet feel bad, how do you know to stay home and not risk spreading the bug? The answer is, you don't. This is what is most concerning about this new corona virus. 

Down playing it is not the correct course of action to protect people from getting it. Of course there are reports out there that it could mutate and potentially cause no symptoms. 

It can't be ignored the Iranian deputy health minister about to pass out from the bug standing out there preaching about how small the threat is. Lol. If that isn't a wake up call for the numb nuts and nit wits, there can't be one. 

[Cat_Scratch]

8 hours ago, Rippers said:

A mask is not necessarily going to protect you.  Washing your hands is more important.  As of now, this is understood to be transmitted via droplet or contact of the droplets.  So, a mask will keep these droplets from spreading if you are already sick, but it won't keep them from getting on you.  If it eventually is determined to be airborne, a mask STILL will not protect the wearer as the airborne particles are small enough to pass through the woven fabric of the mask.  An N95 will offer more protection, but those need to be custom fitted and buying one OTC could end up doing more harm than good (especially if the wearer thinks they are safe, therefore taking less caution).  A PAPR would be the safer choice, but who is going to walk around wearing a respirator?

The human body is interesting; its water proof and washable.  Avoid unnecessary contact, cover your coughs and sneezes, don't touch your face and use hand sanitizer along with hand washing throughout the day.  If you are at work in an office, wipe down surfaces before touching.  All of those are safer options than walking around wearing a mask.

 

Disinfectant wipes work well also. Public toilets etc... must be wiped or you risk MRSA... which in my opinion is a greater risk than many of the other diseases.

[BigDrop]

This is a good thread.  I sincerely thank those who have taken this seriously.

[HawgGoneIt]

2 hours ago, BigDrop said:

This is a good thread.  I sincerely thank those who have taken this seriously.

I actually have a respirator for molds and chemicals which will prove to be helpful in the event this thing does go all Iran,China, or Italy on us. I also have one of these although I don't think it's as effective against bullshit like we read on some of these threads as it may be on pollen and dust.

 

 

[imaGoodBoyNow]

7 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said:

I actually have a respirator for molds and chemicals which will prove to be helpful in the event this thing does go all Iran,China, or Italy on us. I also have one of these although I don't think it's as effective against bullshit like we read on some of these threads as it may be on pollen and dust.

 

 

Business has never been better,

lot of companies and schools getting treated for Corona and  flu remediation, 

 

 

 

here’s My one Freebie if shit hits the Fan

 

Buy plenty of fiberlock Shockwave 

https://www.icpgroup.com/shockwave-kills-coronavirus-under-harshest-conditions/

 

 

[HawgGoneIt]

9 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said:

Business has never been better,

lot of companies and schools getting treated for Corona and  flu remediation, 

 

 

 

here’s My one Freebie if shit hits the Fan

 

Buy plenty of fiberlock Shockwave 

https://www.icpgroup.com/shockwave-kills-coronavirus-under-harshest-conditions/

 

 

Just stay away from Pennsylvania. 

The cough is probably just nerves. The stupidity is likely genetic. Hahaha. 

 

 

[HawgGoneIt]

That guy in the Fox news interview had a family member die from complications of the virus in China before returning and going through a quarantine in California. 

 

[imaGoodBoyNow]

4 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

Just stay away from Pennsylvania. 

The cough is probably just nerves. The stupidity is likely genetic. Hahaha. 

 

 

Lmao 😂 that’s terrible, 

 

people exactly like Tweddle D over here on how diseases spread 

 

“Let me get some of that” while he coughs and pry’s the water out of the girls mouth not before backwashes in the bottle and hands it right back to her

[HawgGoneIt]

3 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said:

Lmao 😂 that’s terrible, 

 

people exactly like Tweddle D over here on how diseases spread 

 

“Let me get some of that” while he coughs and pry’s the water out of the girls mouth not before backwashes in the bottle and hands it right back to her

Notice even FOX is smart enough to do the interview via satellite. Those hosts aren't getting anywhere near that guy. 

I bet they threw those mics and stuff away too. 

"Nah, just keep those as a souvenier." Hahahaha

[Blueliner]

I heard that they’re going for 5k on the black market in Italy. Nice job worldwide msm. Way to cause panic, make thieves and opportunists rich, and separating 1000s of dollars from their scared but gullible owners whipped up into mass hysteria. Strong work (golf clap). 

[NorCalRuss]

1 hour ago, Blueliner said:

I heard that they’re going for 5k on the black market in Italy. Nice job worldwide msm. Way to cause panic, make thieves and opportunists rich, and separating 1000s of dollars from their scared but gullible owners whipped up into Las hysteria. Strong work (golf clap). 

Hey, we only lost trillions of dollars on a flu bug that has killed how many people in US with 350 million people. Wonder how many the common flu has killed in the same time? Nothing to see here, it’s a great thing that the market has crashed. 
 

[Bormio]

1 hour ago, NorCalRuss said:

Hey, we only lost trillions of dollars on a flu bug that has killed how many people in US with 350 million people. Wonder how many the common flu has killed in the same time? Nothing to see here, it’s a great thing that the market has crashed. 
 

It’s a buying opportunity- look on the bright side

[Blueliner]

3 hours ago, NorCalRuss said:

Hey, we only lost trillions of dollars on a flu bug that has killed how many people in US with 350 million people. Wonder how many the common flu has killed in the same time? Nothing to see here, it’s a great thing that the market has crashed. 
 

Rise of the anti-Christ!!!!  I remember that. That was touch and go for a while as we waited for our fate of eternal damnation and suffering by means of TDS. Thankfully, Trump has saved us from that....although, sadly, there were many that couldn't be saved. 🤣