Marine Corps Cracks Down on Treasonous Imagery

[DevilDog]

Confederate-related paraphernalia must be removed from all Marine installations, commandant orders

Marine commandant banishes Confederate symbols from all Corps installations

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/marine-corps-bans-confederate-symbols

Military still has connections to the Confederacy

Despite a number of states and local governments taking down Confederate flags and statues in their cities, 10 Army bases are still named after Confederate generals, including Fort Hood in Texas, Fort Benning in Georgia and Fort Bragg in North Carolina.

The flag of the Confederacy, its symbols and the statues commemorating Confederate leaders have long divided the country. Critics call the flag a symbol that represents the war to uphold slavery, while supporters call it a sign of Southern pride and heritage.

The symbols have increasingly become a rallying call for white supremacists.

In 2015, Dylann Roof killed nine members of a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina. A photo of Roof holding a Confederate flag was posted on his website that featured his manifesto.

During the 2017 "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, white nationalists protested the removal of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee's statue.

It was later revealed that the leader of Vanguard America -- a group that helped organize the "Unite the Right" rally -- was a former Marine recruiter.

Following those reports, then-Marine Corps Commandant Gen. Robert B. Neller said there is "no place for racial hatred or extremism in the Marine Corps."

Earlier this month, the Military Times released a poll showing 36% of troops who responded said they personally witnessed examples of white nationalism or ideological-driven racism in recent months. That was an increase from the year before, when only 22% reported the same, the Military Times reported.

Poll participants reported witnessing not just racist language and discriminatory attitudes, but swastikas being drawn on service members' cars, tattoos affiliated with white supremacist groups, stickers supporting the Ku Klux Klan and Nazi-style salutes between peers, according to the Military Times.

[thc6795]

Sorry Gunny, I don’t like this at all. What happens if the next Commandant doesn’t like combat action ribbons be awarded to warriors, because the enemy died in combat? Or he hates rainbows and bands all or anything to do with rainbows on our bases? I know these examples are extreme but I’m sure you get my point.

As ugly as the Confederate flag is, it is part of our history, instead of trying to erase it, we would be better off remembering it so it is not repeated.

[Horsefly]

I found this at the end of another article:

“...However, the Marine Corps has no installations named in honor of the Confederacy. It is still unclear what will be removed if this order is officially inacted.“

bases are federal property, does the Commandant even have authority to remove statues and things or will it be directed at personal display of confederate materials, e.g. Flags and stickers in dorm windows, etc?  

It will be interesting to see what is removed or was this an empty gesture. 

[thc6795]

37 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

I found this at the end of another article:

“...However, the Marine Corps has no installations named in honor of the Confederacy. It is still unclear what will be removed if this order is officially inacted.“

bases are federal property, does the Commandant even have authority to remove statues and things or will it be directed at personal display of confederate materials, e.g. Flags and stickers in dorm windows, etc?  

It will be interesting to see what is removed or was this an empty gesture. 

IMO it is just overkill, just like tatoos

[Horsefly]

4 minutes ago, thc6795 said:

IMO it is just overkill, just like tatoos

If the purpose is to decrease white nationalists enlisting then this won’t slow it down.  

And white nationalists actual presence in the military recruiting and engaging in racist activity is the real problem, not confederate paraphernalia . 

[maxchoboian]

9 hours ago, DevilDog said:

Earlier this month, the Military Times released a poll showing 36% of troops who responded said they personally witnessed examples of white nationalism or ideological-driven racism in recent months. That was an increase from the year before, when only 22% reported the same, the Military Times reported.

Poll participants reported witnessing not just racist language and discriminatory attitudes, but swastikas being drawn on service members' cars, tattoos affiliated with white supremacist groups, stickers supporting the Ku Klux Klan and Nazi-style salutes between peers, according to the Military Times.

Is the Military Times to be believed, or are they similar to the MSM? Please let me know and then I will finalize my opinion. I need more background info on the people involved (do they lean right, or left), as they very well are just showing their bias (particularly if I have an inkling to disagree with them).

But initially, the flag issue notwithstanding, my gut says the above looks rather disturbing.

[noonereal]

24 minutes ago, maxchoboian said:

are they similar to the MSM?

we can only hope so

 

much respect to MSM in this perilous time

[thc6795]

6 minutes ago, noonereal said:

we can only hope so

 

much respect to MSM in this perilous time

joking right?

 

[I AM IRONMAN]

40 minutes ago, thc6795 said:

joking right?

 

Unfortunately no.

[Blueliner]

23 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said:

Unfortunately no.

Honestly, numbnuts says shit like that simply because he's trolling us. Don't get me wrong. I do not doubt for a millisecond that his stage 27 TDS doesn't affect his ability to think rationally. But for him to say that he has "respect" for the msm is clearly trolling. He's smart enough to know that the msm is an unethical, lying, divisive, partisan-hack of an (dem)institution that hates Trump. But like so many other delusional, hateful, Never-Trumpers, he's okay with their shitty behavior because they share the same values and sentiment. And hence...says crap like "respect" for this failing and dying institution. 

[Blueliner]

2 hours ago, thc6795 said:

Sorry Gunny, I don’t like this at all. What happens if the next Commandant doesn’t like combat action ribbons be awarded to warriors, because the enemy died in combat? Or he hates rainbows and bands all or anything to do with rainbows on our bases? I know these examples are extreme but I’m sure you get my point.

As ugly as the Confederate flag is, it is part of our history, instead of trying to erase it, we would be better off remembering it so it is not repeated.

This^^^^

[DevilDog]

I think it's to tamp down White Supremacy which has had an uptick in the Corps. I knew Marines that had that paraphernalia and they were generally not in my social order away from the Base.  I also know a Marine who had Fared Muhammad on a bulk head and was forced to take it down.  Whatever is needed to maintain Good order and Discipline I support.  

[DevilDog]

6 hours ago, thc6795 said:

Sorry Gunny, I don’t like this at all. What happens if the next Commandant doesn’t like combat action ribbons be awarded to warriors, because the enemy died in combat? Or he hates rainbows and bands all or anything to do with rainbows on our bases? I know these examples are extreme but I’m sure you get my point.

As ugly as the Confederate flag is, it is part of our history, instead of trying to erase it, we would be better off remembering it so it is not repeated.

I understand your sentiments warrior. 

There are Bases named after Confederates.  Mostly Army Forts like Hood, Bragg etc.  Personally it has no effect on me.  I stay away from any place it's present.  What if African Americans wanted to put up slavery images around bases?

[Horsefly]

10 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

I think it's to tamp down White Supremacy which has had an uptick in the Corps. I knew Marines that had that paraphernalia and they were generally not in my social order away from the Base.  I also know a Marine who had Fared Muhammad on a bulk head and was forced to take it down.  Whatever is needed to maintain Good order and Discipline I support.  

Unfortunately I think there has been an uptick in the military as a whole.  I know the AF has seen an uptick since 2016. 

[DevilDog]

1 minute ago, Horsefly said:

Unfortunately I think there has been an uptick in the military as a whole.  I know the AF has seen an uptick since 2016. 

Indeed it has.  I don't think if Flags with black raised fists were displayed the same acceptability would be shown.  And we know these truths to be self evident by how the FBI dealt with The Panthers as Public Enemy #1.   But never dealt with the White Supremacy groups with intent to destroy.  These damn Terrorist are active today.  

[HSFBfan]

6 hours ago, thc6795 said:

Sorry Gunny, I don’t like this at all. What happens if the next Commandant doesn’t like combat action ribbons be awarded to warriors, because the enemy died in combat? Or he hates rainbows and bands all or anything to do with rainbows on our bases? I know these examples are extreme but I’m sure you get my point.

As ugly as the Confederate flag is, it is part of our history, instead of trying to erase it, we would be better off remembering it so it is not repeated.

Why dont we celebrate what robert E Lee and those generals did for this country before 1860.

They had a long military career before the civil war. They were some of our best leaders we ever had. 

Come to West Point and you will find Lee Barracks

Or go visit washington and lee university. Guess who the lee is named after

Go to gettysburg and you'll find confederate Avenue 

Millions of people go to Arlington and have no idea they are visiting essentially robert e lees home 

[thc6795]

1 hour ago, DevilDog said:

I understand your sentiments warrior. 

There are Bases named after Confederates.  Mostly Army Forts like Hood, Bragg etc.  Personally it has no effect on me.  I stay away from any place it's present.  What if African Americans wanted to put up slavery images around bases?

Wouldnt bother me in the slightest Gunny

[noonereal]

7 hours ago, thc6795 said:

joking right?

 

Oh no

 

MSM is all that separates us from a dictatorship

 

I admire these men who write as I do firemen and those that serve in war zones.

 

The best of the best. Period. 

[concha]

14 minutes ago, noonereal said:

Oh no

 

MSM is all that separates us from a dictatorship

 

I admire these men who write as I do firemen and those that serve in war zones.

 

The best of the best. Period. 

 

You apparently confuse the concepts of "generally partisan leftist press" and "free press".

Nobody is shocked.

 

[noonereal]

6 minutes ago, concha said:

 

You apparently confuse the concepts of "generally partisan leftist press" and "free press".

Nobody is shocked.

 

yeah, I am not smart like you

[concha]

1 minute ago, noonereal said:

yeah, I am not smart like you

 

👍

Knowing your limitations is a big step.

 

[noonereal]

15 minutes ago, concha said:

 

👍

Knowing your limitations is a big step.

 

and I am sure some day you will take that step

[concha]

Just now, noonereal said:

and I am sure some day you will take that step

 

Not even beginning to push the envelope.

Now enough about me. You should be working on your next ridiculous tantrum about the God Emperor and all his successes.

Run along.

 

[rockinl]

The military should be completely generic and uniform in politics and social ills and symbols. Doesnt matter if it's the KKK or the New Black Panthers. No place for it in the military. None. Period.

You want to be the follower of a group of losers, get out!!

Why in the hell would you display something some consider hate (not always used as a symbol of hate IMO), when that same person may have to drag your ass out of a firefight to save your life?

Changing the Confederate names of military bases would be ridiculous. 90% of todays Americans dont know a damn thing about the people behind those names anyway.