Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, concha said: The jihad was clearly driven by anti-Trump hysteria. HCQ had shown promise in some early studies/reports and is and was known to be safe: This is from the same report. ...when started earlier in the hospital course, for progressively longer durations and in outpatients, antimalarials [meaning HCQ] may reduce the progression of disease, prevent hospitalization, and are associated with reduced mortality. Yes, and bed rest may reduce the progression of the disease too. This is not the result of a clinical trial. There's no evidence of it's efficacy. It's just as good as any number of other therapeutics and is not approved for COVID-19 treatment. You just want to say something good about your dear leader so much that you can't help it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, concha said: Not like YOU, right Andy? 🤣 And concha gets so mad when people say he's unhinged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, concha said: That must be infant you thinking about the social, academic and professional failure you inevitably became. 🤣 concha whines and then whines about being called a whiner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: This is from the same report. ...when started earlier in the hospital course, for progressively longer durations and in outpatients, antimalarials [meaning HCQ] may reduce the progression of disease, prevent hospitalization, and are associated with reduced mortality. Yes, and bed rest may reduce the progression of the disease too. This is not the result of a clinical trial. There's no evidence of it's efficacy. It's just as good as any number of other therapeutics and is not approved for COVID-19 treatment. You just want to say something good about your dear leader so much that you can't help it. Andy fails to address the site that's tracked a couple of hundred HCQ studies, of course. And if you were suffering from HCQ and higher risk, would you avoid a treatment that the AMA said "may" help you recover more quickly and increase your chances of living? 🤡 It's amazing the dumbass lengths you'll go to to try to make an argument. Laughter is healthy they say, so thanks for being here, Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: And concha gets so mad when people say he's unhinged. uh-huh. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: concha whines and then whines about being called a whiner. That quote was whining? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, concha said: Andy fails to address the site that's tracked a couple of hundred HCQ studies, of course. I addressed what people were saying about the anti-malarial drugs at the time. So I merely rebutted your lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, concha said: It's amazing the dumbass lengths you'll go to to try to make an argument. The lengths being claiming, factually, that it was proven just as effective as bed rest and was not approved for COVID-19 use. Which is exactly what we said back in March/April. I don't have to do anything but state the truth to rebut your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, concha said: That quote was whining? 🤣 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Atticus Finch said: I addressed what people were saying about the anti-malarial drugs at the time. So I merely rebutted your lies. Such as that is was unsafe despite hundreds of millions of people using it over the last 65 years? So that a drug that tests/reports were showing had promise (while little else did) was railed against by the left... why?... as people were dying by the thousands? T D S... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Yes. 👍 Your embarrassment and honesty by-pass surgery was a complete success. Congrats to your doctor. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Pssst we all know you guys are on a bitchslap binge that could easily last another several days, but the exhibitionism is overtly repetitive 🙄just wanted to let you know that when everyone starts telling you two to get a room it is simply because that is what pm was made for 🤓 hope this helps 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, concha said: Such as that is was unsafe despite hundreds of millions of people using it over the last 65 years? No, that it wasn't approved and that there was no evidence that was any better than regular bed rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, concha said: So that a drug that tests/reports were showing had promise (while little else did) was railed against by the left... why?... as people were dying by the thousands? A drug that was not proven to be any better than regular bed rest was described as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: The lengths being claiming, factually, that it was proven just as effective as bed rest and was not approved for COVID-19 use. Which is exactly what we said back in March/April. I don't have to do anything but state the truth to rebut your posts. Except that there were tests and trials from early in 2020 showing HCQ to be helpful. 🤡 https://c19study.com/ Indications it could be effective in combatting Covid since early 2020... known to be safe for well over half a century... but HCQ bad... Why? TDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, concha said: Your embarrassment and honesty by-pass surgery was a complete success. Congrats to your doctor. 🤣 "I'm a lying and unhinged clown and got called on it! - concha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Andy is just priceless. 🤡 I literally post stuff from the Journal of the American Medical Association and a site tracking hundreds of HCQ studies that show Andy to be (as usual) full of shit, but BLESS ANDY'S HEART, he keeps on keepin' on... 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, concha said: Except that there were tests and trials from early in 2020 showing HCQ to be helpful. 🤡 Bed rest is helpful in most cases. It was not approved for COVID-19 treatment. You can whine about it all you want but the claims made were simple fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, concha said: ... known to be safe for well over half a century... For treating malaria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, concha said: I literally post stuff from the Journal of the American Medical Association and a site tracking hundreds of HCQ studies that show Andy to be (as usual) full of shit, but BLESS ANDY'S HEART, he keeps on keepin' on... Next thing you're going to show me are studies from JAMA telling us that hydration and bed rest are effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, Atticus Finch said: A drug that was not proven to be any better than regular bed rest was said described as such. So the point is ......Because bed rest 🛌 actually works to help cure disease, generally causes no harm, and is prescribed for countless medical issues as a vital part of any recovery, you are a fool correct ???🤓 good point 👍 🍿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSouth Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Newbie said: Their drug was found to be “less effective” in reducing the chances of contracting the virus 🦠 or developing herd 🐑 immunity than previous exposure.... that was in the official excuse as to why they discontinued it....say it however you like tho, do you think you did a better job of phrasing the excuse? 🤓 🍿 So where did Merck state “the virus is better than getting one of the approved vaccines.” You said that was what Merck “admitted.” I’d like to read what you read, because that’s pretty big news if they said that. There’s multiple vaccines approved for use...where did Merck say it’s better to get sick than take one of those as you’re claiming? Seems like you read something incorrectly or read something off an overly slanted site that misrepresented something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 To answer concha's question: I'd do what the FDA and WHO said. Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) advice for the public: Mythbusters FACT: Studies show hydroxychloroquine does not have clinical benefits in treating COVID-19 Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, a treatment for malaria, lupus erythematosus, and rheumatoid arthritis, has been under study as a possible treatment for COVID-19. Current data shows that this drug does not reduce deaths among hospitalised COVID-19 patients, nor help people with moderate disease.* The use of hydoxychloroquine and chloroquine is accepted as generally safe for patients with malaria and autoimmune diseases, but its use where not indicated and without medical supervision can cause serious side effects and should be avoided. FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems July 1, 2020 Update: A summary of the FDA review of safety issues with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat hospitalized patients with COVID-19 is now available. This includes reports of serious heart rhythm problems and other safety issues, including blood and lymph system disorders, kidney injuries, and liver problems and failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSouth Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, concha said: Except that there were tests and trials from early in 2020 showing HCQ to be helpful. 🤡 https://c19study.com/ Indications it could be effective in combatting Covid since early 2020... known to be safe for well over half a century... but HCQ bad... Why? TDS. Helpful like Aspirin would be “helpful” against mild symptoms (but hydroxy has way worse possible side effects) but ultimately not effective in curing you or actually making you better? Do we need to praise the first person that comes out and tells us to take Tylenol because it’s proven in the fight against mild Covid 19 symptoms such as fever and headaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, DownSouth said: Helpful like Aspirin would be “helpful” against mild symptoms (but hydroxy has way worse possible side effects) but ultimately not effective in curing you or actually making you better? And we have to add "may be" before "helpful." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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