I AM IRONMAN Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, DBP66 said: #selfexposed....😔 Yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Looked at Sweden’s data today. From May 28 to June 28, cases rose on average from 794 a day to 1129 per day. In the last month, deaths have fallen from 38 a day on average to 6 a day. The US is not the only place seeing a discordance between cases and deaths. So is the virus as lethal as before? The data suggests possibly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, Bormio said: Looked at Sweden’s data today. From May 28 to June 28, cases rose on average from 794 a day to 1129 per day. In the last month, deaths have fallen from 38 a day on average to 6 a day. The US is not the only place seeing a discordance between cases and deaths. So is the virus as lethal as before? The data suggests possibly not. the deat rate keep falling. It was at 5.2. Last I looked it was below 5. And the majority of people do not care about those who died. Its been a political talking since the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 A new study in Sweden suggests herd immunity there might be much closer than thought. We have been relying on antibody detection to establish immunity - and have been disappointed with the relatively low numbers. But that is only one sign of immunity. And antibody levels may vanish over time, but that may well not mean that the patient is not immune. T cells exist that have memory and can activate if the virus enters the body again. Studies of T cell activity suggest many people show this - about twice as many as show antibodies. It shows up in about 30% of blood donors in Sweden in May. It shows up in many exposed family members that never had confirmed Covid or had symptoms. And it is felt in some that old coronavirus infections (the common cold) may provide active T-cell immunity versus Covid (meaning many may never get this). Anyway the idea that antibodies had to be positive to be immune is likely bunk, and the chances that long-lasting immunity exists without their presence seems quite likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Bormio said: A new study in Sweden suggests herd immunity there might be much closer than thought. We have been relying on antibody detection to establish immunity - and have been disappointed with the relatively low numbers. But that is only one sign of immunity. And antibody levels may vanish over time, but that may well not mean that the patient is not immune. T cells exist that have memory and can activate if the virus enters the body again. Studies of T cell activity suggest many people show this - about twice as many as show antibodies. It shows up in about 30% of blood donors in Sweden in May. It shows up in many exposed family members that never had confirmed Covid or had symptoms. And it is felt in some that old coronavirus infections (the common cold) may provide active T-cell immunity versus Covid (meaning many may never get this). Anyway the idea that antibodies had to be positive to be immune is likely bunk, and the chances that long-lasting immunity exists without their presence seems quite likely. https://reason.com/2020/07/01/covid-19-herd-immunity-is-much-closer-than-antibody-tests-suggest-say-2-new-studies/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Depicting wearing a mask to the holocaust is a bit too far of a leap for myself. I do not agree with this republican https://news.wttw.com/2020/07/05/kansas-newspaper-post-equates-mask-mandate-holocaust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-04/u-s-cases-climb-1-7-trump-again-blames-testing-virus-update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Why did the who flip yet again on the drug trump supports after saying it works??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: It’s indecision shows their extreme guilt in pioneering this faux epidemic. #KungFlu absolutely. It's a political game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 5, 2020 Report Share Posted July 5, 2020 I agree completely with this https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/israel-bans-exportation-of-ventilators-633978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 California leads the country in cases https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-07-06/california-records-highest-daily-coronavirus-case-count-of-any-state%3fcontext=amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 The american revolution took place during a pandemic https://www.aier.org/article/they-could-have-sheltered-in-place-instead-they-fought-a-revolution/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 Cases are up significantly, yet over 3 weeks into the surge, deaths continue to actually fall. Now average just a tick over 500 a day - down nearly 80% from the peak. The death rate - even not considering all the undiagnosed cases is now approaching 0.5%. At the start the same death rate nationally was around 5% and still at over 7% in New York. Something has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 55 minutes ago, Bormio said: Cases are up significantly, yet over 3 weeks into the surge, deaths continue to actually fall. Now average just a tick over 500 a day - down nearly 80% from the peak. The death rate - even not considering all the undiagnosed cases is now approaching 0.5%. At the start the same death rate nationally was around 5% and still at over 7% in New York. Something has changed. https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/06/cdc-after-10-week-decline-in-covid-19-deaths-it-may-soon-no-longer-be-an-epidemic/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/07/06/jacksonville-surgeon-says-masks-dont-protect-against-covid-19-us-surgeon-general-disagrees/%3foutputType=amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Bormio said: Cases are up significantly, yet over 3 weeks into the surge, deaths continue to actually fall. Now average just a tick over 500 a day - down nearly 80% from the peak. The death rate - even not considering all the undiagnosed cases is now approaching 0.5%. At the start the same death rate nationally was around 5% and still at over 7% in New York. Something has changed. Still looking for just one set of numbers... Total this season to die from all flu related deaths. VS Total from the last several seasons to die from all flu related deaths. SIMPLE NO ? PS: The CDC and Fauci predicted up to ~650,000 for this season last fall, WITHOUT even Corona, as to what we should expect..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/07/06/ron-desantis-on-the-coronavirus-i-think-weve-stabilized-at-where-were-at/%3foutputType=amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSouth Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 10:58 PM, Troll said: NY Times is not a credible source.... got anything else? 🤣 But QAnon and TheDailyTruthNet.net.org/myspace is? Clown on, dude. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, DownSouth said: But QAnon and TheDailyTruthNet.net.org/myspace is? Clown on, dude. 😆 MySpace come on dude lol at least come up with a recent company 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, DownSouth said: But QAnon and TheDailyTruthNet.net.org/myspace is? Clown on, dude. 😆 You miss the laugh ? 🤣 18 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: MySpace come on dude lol at least come up with a recent company Watch out... Fraud newbie dude sounds like he REALLY knows his sources 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Troll said: You miss the laugh ? 🤣 Watch out... Fraud newbie dude sounds like he REALLY knows his sources 🤣 MySpace was sold about 10 plus years ago for 300 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: MySpace was sold about 10 plus years ago for 300 million That's ok.... You can still hit up impotent Downsouth on his AOL account...😝 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Troll said: That's ok.... You can still hit up impotent Downsouth on his AOL account...😝 I honestly still use aol for my email lmaoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 DBP66’s real name is Karen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSouth Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Troll said: You miss the laugh ? 🤣 Watch out... Fraud newbie dude sounds like he REALLY knows his sources 🤣 I've been posting with most of the people here for over 10 years, since the Rivals board was around. #WhereWePostOneWePostAll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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