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Looked at Sweden’s data today.  From May 28 to June 28, cases rose on average from 794 a day to 1129 per day.  In the last month, deaths have fallen from 38 a day on average to 6 a day.  The US is not the only place seeing a discordance between cases and deaths.  So is the virus as lethal as before?  The data suggests possibly not.

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38 minutes ago, Bormio said:

Looked at Sweden’s data today.  From May 28 to June 28, cases rose on average from 794 a day to 1129 per day.  In the last month, deaths have fallen from 38 a day on average to 6 a day.  The US is not the only place seeing a discordance between cases and deaths.  So is the virus as lethal as before?  The data suggests possibly not.

the deat rate keep falling. It was at 5.2. Last I looked it was below 5. 

And the majority of people do not care about those who died. Its been a political talking since the beginning.

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A new study in Sweden suggests herd immunity there might be much closer than thought.  We have been relying on antibody detection to establish immunity - and have been disappointed with the relatively low numbers.  But that is only one sign of immunity.  And antibody levels may vanish over time, but that may well not mean that the patient is not immune.  T cells exist that have memory and can activate if the virus enters the body again. Studies of T cell activity suggest many people show this - about twice as many as show antibodies.  It shows up in about 30% of blood donors in Sweden in May.  It shows up in many exposed family members that never had confirmed Covid or had symptoms.  And it is felt in some that old coronavirus infections (the common cold) may provide active T-cell immunity versus Covid (meaning many may never get this). Anyway the idea that antibodies had to be positive to be immune is likely bunk, and the chances that long-lasting immunity exists without their presence seems quite likely.

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2 hours ago, Bormio said:

A new study in Sweden suggests herd immunity there might be much closer than thought.  We have been relying on antibody detection to establish immunity - and have been disappointed with the relatively low numbers.  But that is only one sign of immunity.  And antibody levels may vanish over time, but that may well not mean that the patient is not immune.  T cells exist that have memory and can activate if the virus enters the body again. Studies of T cell activity suggest many people show this - about twice as many as show antibodies.  It shows up in about 30% of blood donors in Sweden in May.  It shows up in many exposed family members that never had confirmed Covid or had symptoms.  And it is felt in some that old coronavirus infections (the common cold) may provide active T-cell immunity versus Covid (meaning many may never get this). Anyway the idea that antibodies had to be positive to be immune is likely bunk, and the chances that long-lasting immunity exists without their presence seems quite likely.

https://reason.com/2020/07/01/covid-19-herd-immunity-is-much-closer-than-antibody-tests-suggest-say-2-new-studies/

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Cases are up significantly, yet over 3 weeks into the surge, deaths continue to actually fall.  Now average just a tick over 500 a day - down nearly 80% from the peak.  The death rate - even not considering all the undiagnosed cases is now approaching 0.5%.  At the start the same death rate nationally was around 5% and still at over 7% in New York.  Something has changed.

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55 minutes ago, Bormio said:

Cases are up significantly, yet over 3 weeks into the surge, deaths continue to actually fall.  Now average just a tick over 500 a day - down nearly 80% from the peak.  The death rate - even not considering all the undiagnosed cases is now approaching 0.5%.  At the start the same death rate nationally was around 5% and still at over 7% in New York.  Something has changed.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/06/cdc-after-10-week-decline-in-covid-19-deaths-it-may-soon-no-longer-be-an-epidemic/

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3 hours ago, Bormio said:

Cases are up significantly, yet over 3 weeks into the surge, deaths continue to actually fall.  Now average just a tick over 500 a day - down nearly 80% from the peak.  The death rate - even not considering all the undiagnosed cases is now approaching 0.5%.  At the start the same death rate nationally was around 5% and still at over 7% in New York.  Something has changed.

Still looking for just one set of numbers...

Total this season to die from all flu related deaths.

VS

Total from the last several seasons to die from all flu related deaths.

 

SIMPLE NO ?

 

PS: The CDC and Fauci predicted up  to ~650,000 for this season last fall, WITHOUT even Corona, as to what we should expect.....

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