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A drive through downtown New Orleans in the middle of the workday during the coronavirus pandemic.

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51 minutes ago, Bormio said:

I never said it was a joke and never said it was not going to spread widely.  It is also not Ebola.  Remember 1918 was a flu epidemic (killed 50 million+ worldwide and nearly 700,000 in the US).  1957 was the Asian flu epidemic - killed over 100,000 here.  Comparing it to flu was not saying it could not be serious.  I do not think even now this will be a replay of 1918, but it is closer than anything probably in 60 years.  And it is stressing our health system in ways never seen before, precisely because we have more capability.

Maybe it is Armageddon and maybe he should have. I'm actually growing tired of the medical experts in this country. There's  NO fucking curve.

Would you agree trump should have at least told the truth from day one?....I know that's problematic for you..

Maybe more people would have saved their souls, at least.

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48 minutes ago, Bormio said:

You are an OK dude, so I will ignore the last remark 

I know, that was a low blow. Apologies. 

 

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1 hour ago, Bormio said:

I never said it was a joke 

But here's a sample of you saying a lot things close to that (with TONS of misinformation included).

On 2/29/2020 at 5:46 AM, Bormio said:

Even the New England Journal of Medicine, the preeminent medical journal in the world, argues the coronavirus is likely no worse than a severe seasonal flu

On 2/29/2020 at 11:47 AM, Bormio said:

More articles being written that stopping the spread of the virus is impossible

On 2/29/2020 at 8:52 PM, Bormio said:

Like NBA games, March Madness, NHL games - because someone thinks - without evidence - this might be beneficial?

On 2/29/2020 at 9:00 PM, Bormio said:

The point is limiting the spread is likely impossible. Some will get it, some won’t. And the mortality is quite low.  We do not go nuts over a flu epidemic.  

On 2/29/2020 at 9:29 PM, Bormio said:

Quarantine of contacts seems reasonable, but is almost certainly futile.

On 3/1/2020 at 9:15 AM, Bormio said:

The reason the experts are all shaking their heads is that no one has any idea how to control the spread in a meaningful way.

On 3/1/2020 at 11:44 AM, Bormio said:

If there isn’t mass hysteria yet, it is not for lack of trying by the media.  But people are skeptical about what they believe from them.  Every hour, lead story “Virus in Oregon”, “Virus in Washington”, “Virus to Tank Economy and Markets”, “Should we close schools and stop public gatherings?”  And on and on, breathlessly, trying to be more sensational and cutting-edge than the competition.  It isn’t just about politics, media laps this stuff up for ratings.

On 3/11/2020 at 9:34 PM, Bormio said:

Pretty soon we will all be quarantined.  Economic activity will cease.  Which might be the point.  People are losing their fricking minds.  People are going to have heart attacks and die at home because they have been told to stay there.  It is not even clear it is really transmissible before you get sick.

On 3/11/2020 at 10:38 PM, Bormio said:

We want ACTION!  Do SOMETHING!  Although they have no idea what to do - it just sounds brilliant to say “do something”.  Even the experts are struggling to make recommendations.  The problem is serious, but not worthy of panic or apocalyptic headlines.  The virus is going to spread and cause disease, a goal of slowing the spread to avoid overloading our healthcare system is a reasonable goal.  Personal hygiene measures and social distancing are reasonable- probably the latter are less meaningful than some think.  Quarantine of all contacts for 14 days is ludicrous- how many times do you think some people are going to do that?  3, 5, 10?  Isolation of people who are sick and testing them is what is needed.

On 3/11/2020 at 10:56 PM, Bormio said:

The panic was a hoax. The idea that if you happen to come into contact with someone with the disease you needed to be a hermit for 2 weeks was not warranted. That is soon going to be everyone of us - some of us multiple times. 

On 3/11/2020 at 11:11 PM, Bormio said:

It MIGHT help, even with social distancing there are lots of contacts between people. The press reports have been over the top - and really not informational.  Reports of terrifying chest Xrays make people think all get like that, reports of people keeling over in the street in China made people think Ebola, not something far less lethal. The TV and internet headlines have been sensationalized - not designed to mitigate panic.

 

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1 hour ago, thc6795 said:

Fuck this Racist child molester. Let this fuck catch whatever virus is floating around his park. 

@HawgGoneIt, are you molesting children again?

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4 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

 

@HawgGoneIt, are you molesting children again?

If I replied to Hawg I am sorry. 

As for the Racist Cajun...he can burn in hell.

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4 minutes ago, thc6795 said:

If I replied to Hawg I am sorry. 

As for the Racist Cajun...he can burn in hell.

I understand. Sometimes innocent bystanders get hit. It happens. 

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2 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

I understand. Sometimes innocent bystanders get hit. It happens. 

collateral damage..

 

 

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The role of asymptomatic spread was under appreciated, even by experts, including the CDC.  The disease is not Ebola in terms of case-lethality.  Social distancing has positive effects, but is not stopping the epidemic by any means, as perfect social distancing is impossible. And recommendations by experts have been evolving over time and are being fashioned somewhat on the fly.

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22 minutes ago, Belly Bob said:

I understand. Sometimes innocent bystanders get hit. It happens. 

 

20 minutes ago, CODBEARD said:

collateral damage..

 

 

Funny thing, I just posted something about collateral damage in a different post replying to BB before ever reading this. 

 

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35 minutes ago, Bormio said:

The role of asymptomatic spread was under appreciated, even by experts, including the CDC.

Osterholm was saying that asymptomatic carriers were highly contagious weeks ago.

In fact, show me one expert that said that it isn't clear whether asymptomatic carriers could really transmit the virus. Because that's what you actually said.

That's one of the silliest things I've seen so far regarding this virus.

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2 minutes ago, The Guru said:

Osterholm was saying that asymptomatic carriers were highly contagious weeks ago.

In fact, show me one expert that said that it isn't clear whether asymptomatic carriers could really transmit the virus. Because that's what you actually said.

That's one of the silliest things I've seen so far regarding this virus.

People don't show symptoms for 3 to 10 days depending on the person and their own immune system, but, during that time can be incredibly contagious. 

Trump and his cronies downplaying it created the situation we are in now. 

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11 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

People don't show symptoms for 3 to 10 days depending on the person and their own immune system, but, during that time can be incredibly contagious. 

Trump and his cronies downplaying it created the situation we are in now. 

That was not widely appreciated or known for sure.  Not all viruses are transmissible like that.  Ebola is not.  The CDC initially had the position that it was not responsible for a significant amount of disease spread.  That is in fact not correct.

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1 minute ago, Bormio said:

That was not widely appreciated or known for sure.  Not all viruses are transmissible like that.  Ebola is not.  The CDC initially had the position that it was not responsible for a significant amount of disease spread.  That is in fact not correct.

If you don't know, you should.treat it like it is. 

Period. 

When there is differing opinions from experts, by god, protect protect protect until you know for sure. 

 

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3 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

If you don't know, you should.treat it like it is. 

Period. 

When there is differing opinions from experts, by god, protect protect protect until you know for sure. 

 

So we would send everyone home at the start of every epidemic?  Real world ....

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18 minutes ago, Bormio said:

So we would send everyone home at the start of every epidemic?  Real world ....

No, not realistically in real world scenarios for every epidemic. This one had people.sounding the alarm as soon as they saw China having to build tent hospitals though. We saw what was happening. 

When you see stuff like that, you have to take it seriously. As a doctor, a president or just an average human being. We did not take it serious as a president, or many doctors even. Nor did we take it serious collectively as average human beings either. 

 

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39 minutes ago, Bormio said:

That was not widely appreciated or known for sure.

Where's the receipt on this?

Where did you hear/see this?

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36 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

When there is differing opinions from experts, by god, protect protect protect until you know for sure. 

He's avoided providing this disagreement several times already.

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4 hours ago, RedZone said:

It just isn't looking good,  man... 

 

The main problem that I see, mainly where I live, is, nobody really takes it seriously until there is a confirmed infection in their community. Not the mayors or councilmen or anyone. 

Then there is a confirmed case and they're suddenly touting curfews, suspending alcohol by the drink licenses and mandating stay at home. 

Problem is, that person got it somewhere. Where? When?  Then who did they have contact with since? 

Too late to restrict movement after you see a case. It's already there and spreading then. 

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8 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

The main problem that I see, mainly where I live, is, nobody really takes it seriously until there is a confirmed infection in their community. Not the mayors or councilmen or anyone. 

Then there is a confirmed case and they're suddenly touting curfews, suspending alcohol by the drink licenses and mandating stay at home. 

Problem is, that person got it somewhere. Where? When?  Then who did they have contact with since? 

Too late to restrict movement after you see a case. It's already there and spreading then. 

Exactly.

It's too late by then.

Which is why Bormio and the other merry dumbasses here were so wrong in the beginning.

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A little old rocker's coronavirus humor. 😀

Don't guess a laugh ever hurt anyone during a crisis....

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