BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, thc6795 said: https://www.france24.com/en/20200329-french-expert-says-second-study-shows-malaria-drug-helps-fight-coronavirus https://forward.com/news/national/442285/coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump-doctor/ A couple for you BGW "The research has not yet been peer reviewed nor formally published in a medical journal." ~ for the French Dr.'s findings...1st link. And the Hasidic Dr is sanctioned..... "The doctor, Vladimir Zelenko, has been in isolation because he is immunocompromised. But he is directing perhaps the world’s most extensive, unsanctioned medical experiment related to coronavirus — the use of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19, a something President Donald Trump has been touting for days as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus. The experiment is controversial: Trump’s top medical adviser, Dr. Anthony Fauci, has cautioned against use of the drug to treat the virus, calling evidence of its effectiveness “anecdotal.” On Monday evening, New York banned off-label use of the drug, which is also used to treat lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, outside state-approved clinical trials." So, THC we got a ways to go, got to get into the last phase of these clinicals. BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, thc6795 said: How many people have recovered? ts all doom and gloom nor. There is no hope you're all going to die and it is ALL Trump's fault. You happy now? "Yeah, but, how many people survived the Titanic!? Why don't you ever hear about that!?" 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: "The research has not yet been peer reviewed nor formally published in a medical journal." ~ for the French Dr.'s findings...1st link. And the Hasidic Dr is sanctioned..... "The doctor, Vladimir Zelenko, has been in isolation because he is immunocompromised. But he is directing perhaps the world’s most extensive, unsanctioned medical experiment related to coronavirus — the use of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19, a something President Donald Trump has been touting for days as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus. The experiment is controversial: Trump’s top medical adviser, Dr. Anthony Fauci, has cautioned against use of the drug to treat the virus, calling evidence of its effectiveness “anecdotal.” On Monday evening, New York banned off-label use of the drug, which is also used to treat lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, outside state-approved clinical trials." So, THC we got a ways to go, got to get into the last phase of these clinicals. BGW yeah but it seems to be working. The French Dr has cured 88 of 89 patients. The Dr in yr has cured all 22 of his patients. Dr's all around the world are saying this is working. But digress there is no hope. We are all dead already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, CODBEARD said: why has no flu ever caused this before even when they were more deadly??? The flu is not more fatal than COVID-19 and, according to Dr. Fauci and others, won't be more deadly either. So no facts from you as usual. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, thc6795 said: yeah but it seems to be working. The French Dr has cured 88 of 89 patients. The Dr in yr has cured all 22 of his patients. Dr's all around the world are saying this is working. But digress there is no hope. We are all dead already. This is nonsense. Nobody has been cured. People recover from this without any medication. They hydrate, rest and let their immune system deal with it. There's no solid evidence that a person has a better chance recovering from the virus by using this drug than doing nothing but normal bed rest. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, thc6795 said: yeah but it seems to be working. The French Dr has cured 88 of 89 patients. The Dr in yr has cured all 22 of his patients. Dr's all around the world are saying this is working. But digress there is no hope. We are all dead already. I was curious of the severity of the patients he cured. Then I read the article and saw this: "This is an observational study (i.e. not controlled) following 80 patients with fairly mild symptoms. The majority of patients recover form #COVID19 infection, with or without #Hchloroquine and #Azithromycin treatment." this leaves a level of skepticism 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Guru said: This is nonsense. Nobody has been cured. People recover from this without any medication. They hydrate, rest and let their immune system deal with it. There's no solid evidence that a person has a better chance recovering from the virus by using this drug than doing nothing but normal bed rest. "This is an observational study (i.e. not controlled) following 80 patients with fairly mild symptoms. The majority of patients recover form #COVID19 infection, with or without #Hchloroquine and #Azithromycin treatment." Exactly. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I was curious of the severity of the patients he cured. Then I read the article and saw this: "This is an observational study (i.e. not controlled) following 80 patients with fairly mild symptoms. The majority of patients recover form #COVID19 infection, with or without #Hchloroquine and #Azithromycin treatment." this leaves a level of skepticism again there is no hope. Its over we all die Trump wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, thc6795 said: yeah but it seems to be working. The French Dr has cured 88 of 89 patients. The Dr in yr has cured all 22 of his patients. Dr's all around the world are saying this is working. But digress there is no hope. We are all dead already. Depends on how you look at it, if it's so great why the sanctions? The link I posted in reply looks promising, but how much is marketing or stock posturing? We got a ways to go, we'll see... I think, IDK. BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, CODBEARD said: ok I am not a fact guy... I don't care ... We know. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, thc6795 said: again there is no hope. Its over we all die Trump wins So it's proven that you don't know shit from shinola and this is your response. 🤡 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, thc6795 said: again there is no hope. Its over we all die Trump wins That’s not what anyone is saying, but we can’t just jump at every idea thinking it’s the cure. There’s legit reasons to be skeptical. the hope is in the fact that scientists are diligently researching and working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, CODBEARD said: I do however think it is bullshit a China Flu death is more important than a OD death or an influenza death. They all died and its sad no matter what caused it Who said it's more important? It's just an infectious disease with no vaccine or cure. So it's being taken very seriously. But, hey, somebody shit themselves to death so we don't need to worry about this at all! 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, The Guru said: This is nonsense. Nobody has been cured. People recover from this without any medication. They hydrate, rest and let their immune system deal with it. There's no solid evidence that a person has a better chance recovering from the virus by using this drug than doing nothing but normal bed rest. And some people have the antibodies to fight it off.... there has been success there where the sick can be treated with the antibodies. Where the fuck did I see that to properly cite it? Fuck! BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, CODBEARD said: we also know -178 is not exactly a ringing endorsement of your intellect -180! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: That’s not what anyone is saying, but we can’t just jump at every idea thinking it’s the cure. There’s legit reasons to be skeptical. the hope is in the fact that scientists are diligently researching and working. Half dozen Big Pharma are running clinicals, some are recruiting, some are not. BGW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, I AM IRONMAN said: -180! One of my groupies has decided to take up the cause. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, I AM IRONMAN said: -180! Good job! BAHAHAHA. I reserve the thumb down for the worst... Guru is not that bad, unless Guru is in your head rent free. BGW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: unless Guru is in your head rent free. Which I am in his case. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, The Guru said: Which I am in his case. It appears to be the case. Well done. BGW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: That’s not what anyone is saying, but we can’t just jump at every idea thinking it’s the cure. There’s legit reasons to be skeptical. the hope is in the fact that scientists are diligently researching and working. This is what you're all saying. it's all doom and gloom and it is all Trump's fault. Bell if you get the Wuhan and the Dr says he want to try chloroquine, are you going to tell him NO. Would any of you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, thc6795 said: Bell if you get the Wuhan and the Dr says he want to try chloroquine, are you going to tell him NO. Would any of you? If I have mild symptoms and some crackpot French doctor says "here, try this" I'm going to pass. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, thc6795 said: This is what you're all saying. it's all doom and gloom and it is all Trump's fault. Bell if you get the Wuhan and the Dr says he want to try chloroquine, are you going to tell him NO. Would any of you? No it’s not. I’m just more careful in what I read and what the articles are actually saying. Again, my hope is in the fact I know the greatest scientific minds in virology are studying this to get a cure as fast as possible. I have hope it will happen, but I’m not jumping on any and every thing being thrown out there. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, CODBEARD said: people die.. it is what we do.. some sooner than others.. does the method really matter? [...] Yes, the method is enormously important, one of the most important things there is. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: No it’s not. I’m just more careful in what I read and what the articles are actually saying. Again, my hope is in the fact I know the greatest scientific minds in virology are studying this to get a cure as fast as possible. I have hope it will happen, but I’m not jumping on any and every thing being thrown out there. If you get the Wuhan will you take it of not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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