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You can find mistakes in any works. In science, this is why you don't take the initial study that is published for fact. This is why the lady in the hence removed video has issues. 

She was party to a study that after having been peer reviewed and nobody could recreate the results, was removed from the journal where it was initially published. She was embarrassed in front of her peers and the world, so she tried stealing the documentation and journals where the information was found and was forced to return it all. 

That video she makes assertions that Fauci had something to do with her arrest after covering up and then "stealing" her HIV findings when her arrest had nothing to do with either Fauci or his company. The arrest came from the company she worked for and published that now discredited and removed study using their dime. That comes from the Chicago Tribune. Not snopes or Wikipedia. Forget about those two since you have problems with them. Forget Dr. Gorski as well, because he's just sharing his opinion that is contrary to hers, even though his is on the side of the preponderance of the evidence. 

You are a funny dude. You constantly wander and want someone else to follow your rabbit holes, but, don't want to do the same when faced with a similar situation. 

Maybe you can now go find some fringe stuff to discredit the Chicago Tribune, or just start screaming liberal fake news or something since we can agree on removing snopes and wiki from the convo. 

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The lady in the video basically is attempting to trash Fauci, while selling a load of unproven shit with nothing to back it up. The two things are loosely connected and the anatomy of a good lie. Just like most conspiracy theory garbage.

I'm really sorry that hurts yall's feelings. 

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Just now, HawgGoneIt said:

You can find mistakes in any works.

Agreed 100%....

But only intellectually dishonest people hang on to their mistakes like a pacifier...

refuse to admit them....

and then censor the truth....

No not a conspiracy...

ACTUAL FACTS...

I notified wiki myself...

censored...

Their loss.

🤷‍♂️

 

Didn't bother to read the rest of your political Bullshit.  You still haven't answered why you think private industry needs protection from the general public when they fuck up and injure them....

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42 minutes ago, Troll said:

 

 

Didn't bother to read the rest of your  non-political facts.  You still haven't answered why you think private industry needs protection from the general public when they fuck up and injure them....

FIFY 

To answer the question you want to make me answer, which my answer is going to actually be political bullshit...

Because certain people and parties in our government fancy the economy more important than human life. A good many of them are conflicted by personal interest. Maybe we can get you to explain what any of that has to do with the discredited scientist from the removed video. 

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I have the feeling we wouldn't ever have even been in this discussion if not for the discredited scientist trying to trash Fauci. That's the agenda that I figure was ultimately being pushed with this thread. Secondary to that is anti-vax stuff. 

Primarily it was all intended to be a smear job on Fauci though. 

How's that for cutting to the chase instead of chasing bullshit down rabbit holes? 

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1 hour ago, HawgGoneIt said:

I have the feeling we wouldn't ever have even been in this discussion if not for the discredited scientist trying to trash Fauci. That's the agenda that I figure was ultimately being pushed with this thread. Secondary to that is anti-vax stuff. 

Primarily it was all intended to be a smear job on Fauci though. 

How's that for cutting to the chase instead of chasing bullshit down rabbit holes? 

Yes that's what we call Political bullshit....

Drop the politics...

and see the world for what it is 👀

 

Here let me assist...

2 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said:

You can find mistakes in any works. In science, this is why you....

Pssst it's not any 'mistake'.....

that Wiki will enforce some bullshit patent on a name, even going so far as to falsely represent it.....  as some sort of living history. 🙄

REWRITING WHAT FACTUALLY OCCURED to protect whatever interest they think they are 'protecting' and then censoring others who actually lived that history and disagree, seems quite troubling....

But you will probably try accusing me of being "hung up on some silly name" instead of even understanding or believing the actual relevence, and  "whole"  truth....

 

BTW: No I don't "really really" care about the 'name'....but the fact that your source has been proven to contradict actual HISTORY and then censor actual relevent FACTS, for the sake of copyright......  is probably lost on you...

   

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Maybe you can now go find some fringe stuff to discredit the Chicago Tribune, or just start screaming liberal fake news or something since we can agree on removing snopes and wiki from the convo. 

 

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PS...This is not a Fauxi thread,

it's a 'trust' thread if you read the title...

so unless you are just here to brag about how much you 'trust' your boy, then you are the one off base...

 

...and you still haven't answered...you know...

why you don't  'TRUST' those Vaxes enough...

to agree that they don't need government protection

from causing the harm that they don't do...

👌

 

 

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1 hour ago, I AM IRONMAN said:

Curious as to why ILLEGAL immigrants are receiving wuhan virus  related funds. Sends a great message huh? Smdh

More curious as to why you haven't heard a single peep about the big O putting a MORATORIUM on this type of dangerous Lab Work (that everyone is blaming the Chinese for) in the US in 2015.....

What a brilliantly genius move....

no praise ?

Wonder Why

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6 minutes ago, Troll said:

More curious as to why you haven't heard a single peep about the big O putting a MORATORIUM on this type of dangerous Lab Work (that everyone is blaming the Chinese for) in the US in 2015.....

What a brilliantly genius move....

no praise ?

Wonder Why

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You meant Saint Obama..the Muslim community organizer?

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5 hours ago, Troll said:

Yes that's what we call Political bullshit....

Drop the politics...

and see the world for what it is 👀

 

Here let me assist...

Pssst it's not any 'mistake'.....

that Wiki will enforce some bullshit patent on a name, even going so far as to falsely represent it.....  as some sort of living history. 🙄

REWRITING WHAT FACTUALLY OCCURED to protect whatever interest they think they are 'protecting' and then censoring others who actually lived that history and disagree, seems quite troubling....

But you will probably try accusing me of being "hung up on some silly name" instead of even understanding or believing the actual relevence, and  "whole"  truth....

 

BTW: No I don't "really really" care about the 'name'....but the fact that your source has been proven to contradict actual HISTORY and then censor actual relevent FACTS, for the sake of copyright......  is probably lost on you...

   

 

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PS...This is not a Fauxi thread,

it's a 'trust' thread if you read the title...

so unless you are just here to brag about how much you 'trust' your boy, then you are the one off base...

 

...and you still haven't answered...you know...

why you don't  'TRUST' those Vaxes enough...

to agree that they don't need government protection

from causing the harm that they don't do...

👌

 

 

I damned sure don't trust that crazy lady in the video. xD she is discredited by her own community and peers. Her biggest breakthrough in her community was found to have been pretty much fraudulent. She falsified evidence in her study. Today, I have to deal with her bullshit misinformation posted on Prepgridiron.com. Then watch you defend the goofy woman all day and attempt to propagate her lies and misleading statements. 

So you don't like snopes or wiki. What about the Chicago Tribune? 

What about the science journal where her big claim to fame was published and retracted? 

Here is the article she published. 

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/326/5952/585/tab-pdf

 

Here is the editor's retraction of the article

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/334/6063/1636.1/tab-pdf

 

Story about her falsifying evidence in the Tribune.

 

https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/health/chi-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-paper-10032011-story.html

 

She lied and said she was never charged with anything but the Tribune report says she was.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-xpm-2011-11-22-ct-nw-chronic-fatigue-scientist-arrest-20111122-story.html?fbclid=IwAR1Dl32zH-YtCKyHpmpKcQXaJlESDGnwVgNFvSsJrZ41B-2S_gKTj06Uxps

 

 

So pretty much like I said...The video was trash. It's trash is why it's being removed from YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and other places.The lady is proven a liar quickly and easily. She purports to be an expert, I think the introduction was she is one of the greatest scientists. Then within a simple search in 10 minutes an entire wealth of information showing she at best had contaminated specimens or she at worst falsified evidence from the very journal she published the study in after the results couldn't be duplicated in numerous studies.

 

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34 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

I damned sure don't trust that crazy lady in the video. xD she is discredited by her own community and peers. Her biggest breakthrough in her community was found to have been pretty much fraudulent. She falsified evidence in her study. Today, I have to deal with her bullshit misinformation posted on Prepgridiron.com. Then watch you defend the goofy woman all day and attempt to propagate her lies and misleading statements. 

So you don't like snopes or wiki. What about the Chicago Tribune? 

What about the science journal where her big claim to fame was published and retracted? 

Here is the article she published. 

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/326/5952/585/tab-pdf

 

Here is the editor's retraction of the article

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/334/6063/1636.1/tab-pdf

 

Story about her falsifying evidence in the Tribune.

 

https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/health/chi-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-paper-10032011-story.html

 

She lied and said she was never charged with anything but the Tribune report says she was.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-xpm-2011-11-22-ct-nw-chronic-fatigue-scientist-arrest-20111122-story.html?fbclid=IwAR1Dl32zH-YtCKyHpmpKcQXaJlESDGnwVgNFvSsJrZ41B-2S_gKTj06Uxps

 

 

So pretty much like I said...The video was trash. It's trash is why it's being removed from YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and other places.The lady is proven a liar quickly and easily. She purports to be an expert, I think the introduction was she is one of the greatest scientists. Then within a simple search in 10 minutes an entire wealth of information showing she at best had contaminated specimens or she at worst falsified evidence from the very journal she published the study in after the results couldn't be duplicated in numerous studies.

 

Nice rant

'Almost' hate to tell you.... that you have gone full idiot on everyone....

mental breakdown?

See that whole basis for your diatribe?? 👀👆

HIGHLIGHTED it for you...

Never said ONE SINGLE SOLITARY WORD in support of the lady here, that twisted your jockstrap....😡

In fact I only ever said one sentence in her direction, and it being the very first sentence stated to you in this thread, perhaps you should READ IT....then go back and try again

Here you GO !!!

On 5/6/2020 at 10:39 AM, Troll said:

can't vouch for her...🙄

 

STUNNING  Mental breakdown on your part tho...

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I've went full idiot? xD

Because I've asked for people to stop posting potentially dangerous misinformation during a pandemic? Then having to go round and round about it all day, arguing the finer points of why it's misinformation?

Yeah. OK. 

We've been all over the place with this thing today. A clearly bullshit video gets "innocently" posted. Then when discrediting the video, we have to go in circles about the validity of the sources of the information discrediting the video. 

Pretty sure I'm not the idiot in this one, but whatever excites you pal. 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, HawgGoneIt said:

I've went full idiot? xD

Because I've asked for people to stop posting potentially dangerous misinformation during a pandemic? Then having to go round and round about it all day, arguing the finer points of why it's misinformation?

Yeah. OK. 

We've been all over the place with this thing today. A clearly bullshit video gets "innocently" posted. Then when discrediting the video, we have to go in circles about the validity of the sources of the information discrediting the video. 

Pretty sure I'm not the idiot in this one, but whatever excites you pal. 

 

 

 

We understand...

you "had" the wrong guy is all...🤷‍♂️

😄

 

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10 hours ago, I AM IRONMAN said:

You meant Saint Obama..?

 not a single lefty congratulated him on that move in this time of crisis....

He actually put a stop to that dangerous lab testing on flu stuff here in the US with a moratorium...

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/10/us-halts-funding-new-risky-virus-studies-calls-voluntary-moratorium

Just no love from the left I guess...

🤷‍♂️

 go figure...

 

PS: figured that was a good source....

.....since Hawg just quoted it a couple times 😄

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On 5/6/2020 at 9:47 AM, 15yds4gibberish said:

Remember how, in all those alien invasion movies we grew up watching like Independence Day, it was always the American Federal Government that took the lead, figured out what to do, and  saved the world?  That's not a plausible ending anymore.  Maybe it would be China, or Germany, or New Zealand, or a state governor, but not the US Federal Gov't...

😷👽😷

☝️ Me 10 days ago...

👇 Me today: 'Are you fucking kidding me?'

 

 

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On 5/7/2020 at 7:02 AM, HawgGoneIt said:

Of course they are piss poor references. Mainly because you want to believe the antivaxx bullshit, so you'll grasp onto the weakest disproven information from a criminal over the preponderence of the evidence.

 

 

BTW: thought you might like the "latest" on the Anti-Vax movement...

Like 100 years on the nose...

(first :30 can skip)

 

 

nothing like History huh?

 

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6 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said:

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I mean. It’s fucking RIGHT THERE. Simply mind boggling....unless you’re a shit bag socialist that thinks that this ok. I guess you’re in hog heaven if you’re a fu king communist. Just sayin’. 

I'd like to hear from our resident socialists and "independents" on this matter. 

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On 5/25/2020 at 9:39 PM, Troll said:

You are gonna LOVE this 🤔

 

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Made it through the complete video. 

Playing with RNA is not a good Idea. 

Forcing everyone to get a vaccination and the makers of the drugs not held lieble. I can see 3rd world societies becoming test subjects like what happened in India.

Digital money system... no more working under the table. The government can shut down your cash anytime they want.

Global ID tracking - pretty much already there.

3 generations of Gates family advocating Eugenics. What the fuck?

*Gates makes a fortune off shareware, changing a few lines of code and patenting as his own.*   

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