954gator Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 So since the we are all in dire need of sports talk I figured I'd go all the way back to the start of the maxpreps era and discuss past rankings year by year. For the first throwback discussion we go back to 2004. I will post some rankings that I can find, but it's a bit harder to find some of the older rankings so if any of you guys can post links to any other publications that be awesome. Any film, highlights, articles on games, discussion of talented players etc is all good! USA Today 1. Southlake (Texas) Carroll (16-0)2. Independence, Charlotte (15-0)3. Mission Viejo, Calif. (14-0)4. Hoover, Ala. (15-0)5. Colerain, Cincinnati (15-0)6. Central Catholic, Pittsburgh (16-0)7. South Panola, Batesville, Miss. (15-0)8. Bellevue, Wash. (13-0)9. John Curtis, River Ridge, La. (14-0)10. Poly, Long Beach, Calif. (13-1)11. Lowndes, Valdosta, Ga. (15-0)12. Christian Brothers Academy, Syracuse, N.Y. (13-0)13. Muskegon, Mich. (14-0)14. Joliet (Ill.) Catholic (14-0)15. Riverdale, Murfreesboro, Tenn. (15-0)16. Notre Dame, Sherman Oaks, Calif. (14-0)17. Killian, Miami (13-1)18. Lakeland, Fla. (15-0)19. Union, Tulsa (13-1)20. DeMatha, Hyattsville, Md. (10-1)21. Jenks, Okla. (12-1)22. St. Joseph Regional, Montvale, N.J. (11-1)23. St. Xavier, Louisville (14-1)24. Camden County, Kingsland, Ga. (13-1)25. Mullen, Denver (13-1) Maxpreps (ccomputer) 1 Colerain (Cincinnati) OH 15-0 70.2 35.7 -- 2 Mission Viejo CA 14-0 68.1 31.9 -- 3 Lowell MI 14-0 62.6 31.7 -- 4 Central Catholic (Pittsburgh) PA 16-0 61.1 28.9 -- 5 Carroll (Southlake) TX 16-0 61.0 34.6 -- 6 Warren Central (Indianapolis) IN 14-1 60.0 38.6 -- 7 La Cueva (Albuquerque) NM 13-0 58.3 20.7 -- 8 Simpson Academy (Mendenhall) MS 14-0 58.2 23.0 -- 9 Christian Brothers Academy (Syracuse) NY 13-0 58.2 24.4 -- 10 Long Beach Poly (Long Beach) CA 13-1 56.6 29.4 -- 11 Harlan IA 13-0 56.4 23.3 -- 12 Hoover AL 15-0 56.3 30.9 -- 13 Muskegon MI 14-0 56.1 24.5 -- 14 Bellevue WA 13-0 55.8 26.6 -- 15 Wisconsin Lutheran (Milwaukee) WI 14-0 55.6 23.4 -- 16 Chenango Forks (Binghamton) NY 13-0 55.4 26.4 -- 17 Jackson Academy (Jackson) MS 11-1 55.0 32.7 -- 18 New Rochelle NY 11-1 55.0 27.6 -- 19 Norfolk Catholic (Norfolk) NE 12-1 54.1 26.2 -- 20 Archbishop Moeller (Cincinnati) OH 9-3 53.9 42.2 -- 21 Riverdale (Murfreesboro) TN 15-0 53.8 22.6 -- 22 Lakeland FL 15-0 53.7 25.1 -- 23 Providence Catholic (New Lenox) IL 13-1 53.5 21.4 -- 24 Brookhaven (Columbus) OH 15-0 53.3 20.1 -- 25 Highlands (Fort Thomas) KY 14-1 53.2 28.3 Anyone have HSFB america or Massey rankings? Can't seem to find any of the older rankings (can''t really remember them all too well lol) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 So to start off I'm seeing some really random teams from random states lol. As you can see the maxpreps computer rankings were pretty horrible at the time. Can anyone confirm if this was the same as Calpreps back then? What teams were underrated? Overrated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 For Florida I think Lakeland is a bit underrated. They really put it on STA that year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Woof. The human poll is bad enough but the computer poll is a complete embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 South Lake Carroll D2 state game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z02Q_FPeDNQ (won't let me embed video SMH) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, 954gator said: For Florida I think Lakeland is a bit underrated. They really put it on STA that year. We were horrible. But, yeah, Killian being one spot ahead of Lakeland in the USA Today Poll is weird and indefensible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimpGrip Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Really liked that 2004 SLC team. I think Chase Daniel is the best QB SLC ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 An old Tennessee site I still use from time to time for older rankings and reference. Hasn't been updated in years. Rankings on the right. You can figure it out. https://tennprepdb.com/prepnationrankings.aspx?Season=2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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954gator Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Guru said: We were horrible. But, yeah, Killian being one spot ahead of Lakeland in the USA Today Poll is weird and indefensible. Yeah they relied on the D and just had no offense to do anything vs Lakeland. STA had Sam Young, Marcus Gilbert, Major Wright, and Geno Atkins on that team and still got crushed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Looking at the tape Lakeland and Colerain have much more team speed than SLC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, 954gator said: So since the we are all in dire need of sports talk I figured I'd go all the way back to the start of the maxpreps era and discuss past rankings year by year. For the first throwback discussion we go back to 2004. I will post some rankings that I can find, but it's a bit harder to find some of the older rankings so if any of you guys can post links to any other publications that be awesome. Any film, highlights, articles on games, discussion of talented players etc is all good! USA Today 1. Southlake (Texas) Carroll (16-0)2. Independence, Charlotte (15-0)3. Mission Viejo, Calif. (14-0)4. Hoover, Ala. (15-0)5. Colerain, Cincinnati (15-0)6. Central Catholic, Pittsburgh (16-0)7. South Panola, Batesville, Miss. (15-0)8. Bellevue, Wash. (13-0)9. John Curtis, River Ridge, La. (14-0)10. Poly, Long Beach, Calif. (13-1)11. Lowndes, Valdosta, Ga. (15-0)12. Christian Brothers Academy, Syracuse, N.Y. (13-0)13. Muskegon, Mich. (14-0)14. Joliet (Ill.) Catholic (14-0)15. Riverdale, Murfreesboro, Tenn. (15-0)16. Notre Dame, Sherman Oaks, Calif. (14-0)17. Killian, Miami (13-1)18. Lakeland, Fla. (15-0)19. Union, Tulsa (13-1)20. DeMatha, Hyattsville, Md. (10-1)21. Jenks, Okla. (12-1)22. St. Joseph Regional, Montvale, N.J. (11-1)23. St. Xavier, Louisville (14-1)24. Camden County, Kingsland, Ga. (13-1)25. Mullen, Denver (13-1) Maxpreps (ccomputer) 1 Colerain (Cincinnati) OH 15-0 70.2 35.7 -- 2 Mission Viejo CA 14-0 68.1 31.9 -- 3 Lowell MI 14-0 62.6 31.7 -- 4 Central Catholic (Pittsburgh) PA 16-0 61.1 28.9 -- 5 Carroll (Southlake) TX 16-0 61.0 34.6 -- 6 Warren Central (Indianapolis) IN 14-1 60.0 38.6 -- 7 La Cueva (Albuquerque) NM 13-0 58.3 20.7 -- 8 Simpson Academy (Mendenhall) MS 14-0 58.2 23.0 -- 9 Christian Brothers Academy (Syracuse) NY 13-0 58.2 24.4 -- 10 Long Beach Poly (Long Beach) CA 13-1 56.6 29.4 -- 11 Harlan IA 13-0 56.4 23.3 -- 12 Hoover AL 15-0 56.3 30.9 -- 13 Muskegon MI 14-0 56.1 24.5 -- 14 Bellevue WA 13-0 55.8 26.6 -- 15 Wisconsin Lutheran (Milwaukee) WI 14-0 55.6 23.4 -- 16 Chenango Forks (Binghamton) NY 13-0 55.4 26.4 -- 17 Jackson Academy (Jackson) MS 11-1 55.0 32.7 -- 18 New Rochelle NY 11-1 55.0 27.6 -- 19 Norfolk Catholic (Norfolk) NE 12-1 54.1 26.2 -- 20 Archbishop Moeller (Cincinnati) OH 9-3 53.9 42.2 -- 21 Riverdale (Murfreesboro) TN 15-0 53.8 22.6 -- 22 Lakeland FL 15-0 53.7 25.1 -- 23 Providence Catholic (New Lenox) IL 13-1 53.5 21.4 -- 24 Brookhaven (Columbus) OH 15-0 53.3 20.1 -- 25 Highlands (Fort Thomas) KY 14-1 53.2 28.3 Anyone have HSFB america or Massey rankings? Can't seem to find any of the older rankings (can''t really remember them all too well lol) Here's something interesting, @954gator. Both Lowndes and Camden County are from the same region, Region 1. And there are only 4 teams in that region. Yet somehow both teams end up ranked in the top 25 nationally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, 954gator said: Good news is that as long as McKinley exists then we'll never be the worst team/performance in this thread. 💩 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, 954gator said: For Florida I think Lakeland is a bit underrated. They really put it on STA that year. Underrated moment in the pregame. James Bates to Brady Ackerman: "Man, are you weak. What was your school's fight song? She Bangs?" 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, 954gator said: STA had Sam Young, Marcus Gilbert, Major Wright, and Geno Atkins on that team and still got crushed. The game was actually closer than it should've been given the overwhelming statistical mismatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 There seems to be a good bit of parity between these two lists. The second ranked team by USA Today does not even appear on the MaxPreps list. Harlan and Union are two other teams that don't appear on both lists from what I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, ngdawg said: Here's something interesting, @954gator. Both Lowndes and Camden County are from the same region, Region 1. And there are only 4 teams in that region. Yet somehow both teams end up ranked in the top 25 nationally. Not in 2004 though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, ngdawg said: Here's something interesting, @954gator. Both Lowndes and Camden County are from the same region, Region 1. And there are only 4 teams in that region. Yet somehow both teams end up ranked in the top 25 nationally. Back then Camden was in the Savannah schools region.... Back then Region 1 was: Lowndes Colquitt Tift Valdosta Coffee Warner Robins Northside WR Houston 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 I kind of want to know something about La Cueva, (Albuquerque, New Mexico). #7 in the nation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 I hate talking about Camden being in the Savannah regions. When they where in the Savannah region... Everything pre-2011 is just dead in the water... Benedictine and Camden ran that region... That was stupid... Not even stupid fucking sheer dumbassery the GHSA lumped Camden with us when I was younger in Savannah... Left for Tifton and then Camden followed me to Region 1... I was convinced it was a curse... Fucking hated playing Camden... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngdawg Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Back then Camden was in the Savannah schools region.... Back then Region 1 was: Lowndes Colquitt Tift Valdosta Coffee Warner Robins Northside WR Houston Think about how amazing this would be today. Absolutely beautiful. I bet things were different in 2004, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 2004 was also the year of the infamous DLS vs Bellevue game stoppping the 151 game streak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, ngdawg said: Think about how amazing this would be today. Absolutely beautiful. I bet things were different in 2004, though. Back then Valdosta,Lowndes and Northside WR Ran region 1... Northside WR and Lowndes used to have some grueling games... Wish they'd play more but obviously one has fallen off.... Conrad Nix had Northside WR primed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, 954gator said: South Lake Carroll D2 state game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z02Q_FPeDNQ (won't let me embed video SMH) A team as highly ranked as them should've beaten that Smithson Valley team by more. They're not a very good team. And they played noooooooobody. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 This retrospective is not being kind to Southlake Carroll. This might be the worst of their three-peat teams but that Smithson Valley team was Tuuuuurrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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