concha Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 The most recent data regarding the China Virus fatality rates is very interesting: IFR (Infection Fatality Rate): proportion of deaths among all infected individuals https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/09/26/cdc-releases-updated-covid-19-fatality-rate-data/ IFR per the latest CDC numbers: Age 0-19: 0.003% (3 in 100,000) Age 20-49: 0.02% (2 in 10,000) Age 50-69: 0.5% (5 in 1,000) Age 70+: 5.4% (~5 in 100) The average age of a person dying from Covid is well into their 70s. Nearly 80% of deaths in this country are people of retirement age (over 65). https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm The current best CDC estimate indicates 40% of people catching it are asymptomatic (they don't even necessarily know they've caught it). Now that the stupidity of people like Andrew Cuomo putting old, infected people into care facilites is corrected, and we know that advanced age and comorbidities are the real risk factors, why exactly are we continuing to effectively murder our economy and the make miseries of the lives of the vast majority of Americans? Do we not know where to focus our PPE and quarantine/isolation efforts? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, concha said: The most recent data regarding the China Virus fatality rates is very interesting: IFR (Infection Fatality Rate): proportion of deaths among all infected individuals https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/09/26/cdc-releases-updated-covid-19-fatality-rate-data/ IFR per the latest CDC numbers: Age 0-19: 0.003% (3 in 100,000) Age 20-49: 0.02% (2 in 10,000) Age 50-69: 0.5% (5 in 1,000) Age 70+: 5.4% (~5 in 100) The average age of a person dying from Covid is well into their 70s. Nearly 80% of deaths in this country are people of retirement age (over 65). https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm The current best CDC estimate indicates 40% of people catching it are asymptomatic (they don't even necessarily know they've caught it). Now that the stupidity of people like Andrew Cuomo putting old, infected people into care facilites is corrected, and we know that advanced age and comorbidities are the real risk factors, why exactly are we continuing to effectively murder our economy and the make miseries of the lives of the vast majority of Americans? Do we not know where to focus our PPE and quarantine/isolation efforts? Yes. We do. And Trump knows it...that is clearly going to be his plan. He’s setting the stage for putting extreme pressure on the states to open and stay open...focus attention and resources in the higher risk target hazards. I’m pretty sure Americans are on board with that versus lockdowns, mental illness exacerbation, bankruptcy, and starvation. ...oh and don’t forget about the CDC data of over 70,000 college students testing positive over like 37 universities....0 deaths and 3 hospitalizations. But hey...let’s shut down all of then schools and quarantine students. WTF is wrong with these people?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted October 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Blueliner said: Yes. We do. And Trump knows it...that is clearly going to be his plan. He’s setting the stage for putting extreme pressure on the states to open and stay open...focus attention and resources in the higher risk target hazards. I’m pretty sure Americans are on board with that versus lockdowns, mental illness exacerbation, bankruptcy, and starvation. ...oh and don’t forget about the CDC data of over 70,000 college students testing positive over like 37 universities....0 deaths and 3 hospitalizations. But hey...let’s shut down all of then schools and quarantine students. WTF is wrong with these people?! November 3rd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 Cuomo crystallized the attitude when he said he wasn’t going to see his mother die, nor should anyone else. The “if we can save one life” argument. It is appealing and tugs at people’s emotions. But it is terrible public policy, because it puts an infinite price on human life, without considering the costs of the actions you take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Bormio said: Cuomo crystallized the attitude when he said he wasn’t going to see his mother die, nor should anyone else. The “if we can save one life” argument. It is appealing and tugs at people’s emotions. But it is terrible public policy, because it puts an infinite price on human life, without considering the costs of the actions you take. Exactly. Well said. But we know this isn’t about human life anyways (for them): Election interference, power, and control. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, concha said: The most recent data regarding the China Virus fatality rates is very interesting: IFR (Infection Fatality Rate): proportion of deaths among all infected individuals https://tallahasseereports.com/2020/09/26/cdc-releases-updated-covid-19-fatality-rate-data/ IFR per the latest CDC numbers: Age 0-19: 0.003% (3 in 100,000) Age 20-49: 0.02% (2 in 10,000) Age 50-69: 0.5% (5 in 1,000) Age 70+: 5.4% (~5 in 100) The average age of a person dying from Covid is well into their 70s. Nearly 80% of deaths in this country are people of retirement age (over 65). https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm The current best CDC estimate indicates 40% of people catching it are asymptomatic (they don't even necessarily know they've caught it). Now that the stupidity of people like Andrew Cuomo putting old, infected people into care facilites is corrected, and we know that advanced age and comorbidities are the real risk factors, why exactly are we continuing to effectively murder our economy and the make miseries of the lives of the vast majority of Americans? Do we not know where to focus our PPE and quarantine/isolation efforts? lives>economy....very simple....🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, DBP66 said: lives>economy....very simple....🙄 The economy is lives, moron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted October 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bormio said: The economy is lives, moron He is an idiot. Then every flu season we should shut the nation down. We should have a speed limit of 5 mph. Alcohol and tobacco should be made illegal. No sharp knives... 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bormio said: The economy is lives, moron wish the 210,000 people who died were alive....😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, concha said: He is an idiot. Then every flu season we should shut the nation down. We should have a speed limit of 5 mph. Alcohol and tobacco should be made illegal. No sharp knives... you're going to be a good Trumper and compare the Covid virus to the flu??...same mortality rate??..NO....what a f*in moron...just like Trump...🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, DBP66 said: wish the 210,000 people who died were alive....😒 If you were in charge, how many do you think would be alive? Not many, if any, if not more dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bormio said: If you were in charge, how many do you think would be alive? Not many, if any, if not more dead LOL...do you think I'd pull a Trumper move and try and "down play" the virus as much possible and lie to Americans...or never come up with a National strategy??... and tell the 50 states to do their own thing?!.you think I'd be that dumb??..LOL..🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, DBP66 said: LOL...do you think I'd pull a Trumper move and try and "down play" the virus as much possible and lie to Americans...or never come up with a National strategy??... and tell the 50 states to do their own thing?!.you think I'd be that dumb??..LOL..🙄 You still wouldn’t have saved lives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bormio said: You still wouldn’t have saved lives a lot more than Trump did...😉 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted October 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 What is the latest Covid mortality rate compared to influenza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, concha said: What is the latest Covid mortality rate compared to influenza? Across the whole population, though, COVID-19 has been much deadlier. According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the worst flu season in the last 10 years was 2017-2018, when an estimated 61,000 Americans died. In 2018-2019, there were 34,000 U.S. deaths attributed to influenza. In 2019-2020, there were 22,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, DBP66 said: LOL...do you think I'd pull a Trumper move and try and "down play" the virus as much possible and lie to Americans...or never come up with a National strategy??... and tell the 50 states to do their own thing?!.you think I'd be that dumb??..LOL..🙄 Karen McKrusty proves daily he is the forum moron! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 Remember when concha was apoplectic about how bad H1N1 was? 💩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Bormio said: The economy is lives, moron Exactly again. These guys are effing idiots. This is why they'll never "win". Normal people understand the complexity of life and how said life's survival is predicated upon its ecosystem. Take ANY animal species...take away it's "economy" and it dies out. A collapsed economy would kill and devastate millions of more lives than this over-hyped virus will ever take. Millions of Americans have actually developed covid-killer antibodies by simply not watching CNN and the rest of lying msm. Now THAT is following the science. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 4 hours ago, concha said: Do we not know where to focus our PPE and quarantine/isolation efforts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blueliner Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, RedZone said: Shock. Fakebook sensoring the Prez and conservatives. WGAFF. Well, Adolf, at least they'll keep your lame ass shit up there. It's a good thing that you influence so many people 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Blueliner said: Shock. Fakebook sensoring the Prez and conservatives. WGAFF. Well, Adolf, at least they'll keep your lame ass shit up there. It's a good thing that you influence so many people 🤣 When your president makes his freakin mind up maybe Facebook won't fuck with him. ..which lie do you believe? "Facebook has removed a post from President Trump in which he falsely claimed that Covid-19 is less deadly than the seasonal flu" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 Enjoyed the chat, bluedot. Simply stimulating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted October 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 So, nobody can explain why we are crushing our economy and lives when we could instead focus on the 16% of the population that accounts for ~80% of China Virus fatalities? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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