181pl Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 They rank STA only the 5th best team in Florida? Laughable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Rockets Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, 181pl said: They rank STA only the 5th best team in Florida? Laughable. Very laughable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Calpreps has always been harsh on STA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 55 minutes ago, 181pl said: They rank STA only the 5th best team in Florida? Laughable. Clearly they're still pissed about Aquinas shitting on their prized possession De La Salle from a few years ago 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestcoast Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: With the possible exception of this year,but not yet known,is the fact that Fla teams are just better than Calf teams. No they aren't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: Historically in the rankings,in competition and in most scouts opinion,I believe Fla is better.. This year may start to change things as it should, with Calf population doubling that of Fla..IE....Bosco had a tougher time with Fla than Calf teams.. A well heeled coach told me,"Fla teams are better than Calf".... I'll back you up on this one. I favor Florida fball over Cali fball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: Historically in the rankings,in competition and in most scouts opinion,I believe Fla is better.. This year may start to change things as it should, with Calf population doubling that of Fla..IE....Bosco had a tougher time with Fla than Calf teams.. A well heeled coach told me,"Fla teams are better than Calf".... Could it be that coach was bitter towards Cali teams. Or maybe he just doesn't know squat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, Bestcoast said: No they aren't You havent exactly not Proven this statement false either.... I mean LBP did... But everyone of your top teams.... No.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 CP's preseason rankings are meaningless DLS was 9th IN California right before they 4-peated with wins of 28-14, 48-8, 35-0, and 48-28 pay attention after games are played Indint think CP shits in STA but STA for most of this decade loses to teams they shouldn't and plays a lot of crappy teams in district and then is a victim of FL diluted playoffs if FL had a bracket with (i.e.) their top 10 teams, the winner of that bracket would always be top 5-10 nationally at worst as it is, STA may be most consistently overrated teams by humans -- I bet they've finished lower than they started every year this decade -- they always get top 5 treatment because of roster but usually don't live up to it I'd still start themmin top 5 just about every year but just juxtaposing your CP accusation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: You havent exactly not Proven this statement false either.... I mean LBP did... But everyone of your top teams.... No.... Other than DLS, which other top Cali team played a FL team? Please don't mention Carson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 28 minutes ago, old_e said: Other than DLS, which other top Cali team played a FL team? Please don't mention Carson. Cen10 and IDK who Carson is... SJB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, old_e said: Other than DLS, which other top Cali team played a FL team? Please don't mention Carson. I remembered that game. 10-3 Carson got drilled 31-13 by 6-5 Osceola. The best win Cali has is Poly over MNW in the preseason back in 08.Other than that, Lakeland and STA beating DLS are the only nationally relevant games. Funny that in those years, Lakeland and STA lost in those watered down garbage playoffs, while DLS ran the invincible Cali gauntlet beating the legendary SoCal Champs both times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Funny that in those years, Lakeland and STA lost in those watered down garbage playoffs, while DLS ran the invincible Cali gauntlet beating the legendary SoCal Champs both times Lakeland and STA just got a lot worse throughout the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Cen10 and IDK who Carson is... SJB I'll give you cc. However, they did a better showing than Grayson. And they didn't get Norcrossed. The SJB that is coming out this season is gonna be a whole different animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: I remembered that game. 10-3 Carson got drilled 31-13 by 6-5 Osceola. The best win Cali has is Poly over MNW in the preseason back in 08.Other than that, Lakeland and STA beating DLS are the only nationally relevant games. Funny that in those years, Lakeland and STA lost in those watered down garbage playoffs, while DLS ran the invincible Cali gauntlet beating the legendary SoCal Champs both times 3 of those Osceola losses were to Lakeland (2) and Dr Phillips (1). Not quite Florida's bottom dwellers aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, old_e said: I'll give you cc. However, they did a better showing than Grayson. And they didn't get Norcrossed. The SJB that is coming out this season is gonna be a whole different animal. Nah don't even count IMG. I don't think IMG should have any affect on these types of debates. I look at the Carson-Osceola game more than I would any of IMG's games. Sure neither was that great, but a team that went 6-5 in FL gave them their worst loss of the season, and they weren't a horrible Cali team either. They did beat MD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, 954gator said: Nah don't even count IMG. I don't think IMG should have any affect on these types of debates. I look at the Carson-Osceola game more than I would any of IMG's games. Sure neither was that great, but a team that went 6-5 in FL gave them their worst loss of the season, and they weren't a horrible Cali team either. They did beat MD. They beat a down MD team. Carson, Banning, and Dorsey we're monsters in the 80's. Ever since the privates starting recruiting from those areas, there has not been a city team equivalent to those 80's teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, old_e said: They beat a down MD team. Carson, Banning, and Dorsey we're monsters in the 80's. Ever since the privates starting recruiting from those areas, there has not been a city team equivalent to those 80's teams. 15-0 Serra beat Carson by 10 (27-17). 6-5 Osceola beat them by 19 (32-13). I don't doubt they weren't what they might have been before, but we're talking about Osceola. They weren't world beaters at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, 954gator said: 15-0 Serra beat Carson by 10 (27-17). 6-5 Osceola beat them by 19 (32-13). I don't doubt they weren't what they might have been before, but we're talking about Osceola. They weren't world beaters at the time. Serra? Your talking to the wrong person to get accolades for Serra. To me Serra at their best we're a tad better than Poly post Jayso and Lara dynasty. Serra's claim to fame was in the lower division when they edged out a win from Oaks Christian in the championship game. Ever since being placed in D1 they haven't won a thing. Yes they have state titles but those came in lower divisions where they clearly outmatched their opponents with better athletes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Just now, old_e said: Serra? Your talking to the wrong person to get accolades for Serra. To me Serra at their best we're a tad better than Poly post Jayso and Lara dynasty. Serra's claim to fame was in the lower division when they edged out a win from Oaks Christian in the championship game. Ever since being placed in D1 they haven't won a thing. Yes they have state titles but those came in lower divisions where they clearly outmatched their opponents with better athletes. I can accept that. As long as you can accept that Calpreps had all those teams ranked waaay too high and that Fl playoffs aren't as watered down as they might seem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 minute ago, 954gator said: I can accept that. As long as you can accept that Calpreps had all those teams ranked waaay too high and that Fl playoffs aren't as watered down as they might seem. I never said FL playoffs we're watered down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 minute ago, old_e said: I never said FL playoffs we're watered down. Ahh I see, well It tends to be the general consensus on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I like Calpreps. Not for their ranking or ratings. They're very informative. Especially when the coaches participate in their questionnaires. I also gringe at some of their ranking but I don't take it as law. Also, it allows me to view an entire schedule on game days. Easier to pick a game I like to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Just now, 954gator said: Ahh I see, well It tends to be the general consensus on here. They are. Too many classes. It's greed from the FHSAA. More classes, means more playoff games, which means more money. And they jacked up the prices for the playoff games. They can get rid of 2 classes without anyone even noticing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: They are. Too many classes. It's greed from the FHSAA. More classes, means more playoff games, which means more money. And they jacked up the prices for the playoff games. They can get rid of 2 classes without anyone even noticing. They could 100% be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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