BobbySanchez Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 It seems to be that they aren't nationally relevant (yet), they graduated a bulk of their starters from an 8-4 season, and they don't seem to have too much talent. Why the hot commodity? SJB is playing them, but to be honest I would prefer if SJB would have traveled that far to play a game to play somebody more nationally relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 7 hours ago, BobbySanchez said: It seems to be that they aren't nationally relevant (yet), they graduated a bulk of their starters from an 8-4 season, and they don't seem to have too much talent. Why the hot commodity? SJB is playing them, but to be honest I would prefer if SJB would have traveled that far to play a game to play somebody more nationally relevant. This entire post is incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 SJB has scheduled 2 of the most relevant teams on the eastern seaboard. They are going to cut a path from Ft. Lauderdale to Maryland and would burn every high school in between. SJB is like the Roman Empire... Their conquests extend from Hawaii and Pacific Northwest to the northeast and soon to pillage the south 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: SJB has scheduled 2 of the most relevant teams on the eastern seaboard. They are going to cut a path from Ft. Lauderdale to Maryland and would burn every high school in between. SJB is like the Ronan Empire... Their conquests extend from Hawaii and Pacific Northwest to the northeast and soon to pillage the south I agree. SJB is like the Ronan Empire. Rufus>> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 39 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: I agree. SJB is like the Ronan Empire. Rufus>> Just checking to see if you took the time to read the post...LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 9th grader DJ Uiagalelei, throws a football 75 yards braking Arizona camp record. In Madden 99 on Arm Strength https://mobile.twitter.com/PIMGBIGDAVE/status/881264293718536194 He is the backup QB lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Sammyswordsman said: Just checking to see if you took the time to read the post...LOL. I just figured that spell check/logic check auto-corrected it for you....(Smile). Rufus>> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said: Their "anyone, anywhere" scheduling philosophy makes them very easy to schedule. Plus, they don't require a significant travel stipend, which is a no-brainer for the host team. I'd say they're regionally relevant at this point. Their biggest OOS win over the last three years is SJR (2014 IMG was not the program they are today). IMO this season will determine if they're nationally relevant or not. They should of beat dematha last year ... twice. They are most definitely Nationally relevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said: Their "anyone, anywhere" scheduling philosophy makes them very easy to schedule. Plus, they don't require a significant travel stipend, which is a no-brainer for the host team. I'd say they're regionally relevant at this point. Their biggest OOS win over the last three years is SJR (2014 IMG was not the program they are today). IMO this season will determine if they're nationally relevant or not. I nationally relevant encompasses 500 teams +/- and SJC is way within that tgis season they have an opportukity to become nationally "elite" i wouldn't be so quick to dismiss IMG win -- I believe they're only one that has a win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 46 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: They lost those games. They need to beat a big name OOS program to be considered "national." They beat sjr (which going into the game I said sjc should be favored). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 46 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Eastern Christian always scheduled very tough OOS games, but were never considered nationally relevant because they always lost. #fineline I'd consider ECA relevant (not elite) when sills was quarterback and healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbySanchez Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 St.Johns is coming off an 8-4 national season which I will admit (which for their program is probably one of the best in history) is not the worst, however the bulk of their starters from that season have graduated. Some teams play OOS because they know they have a squad and want to headhunt some impressive name, East from Utah would be a good example from season. Some teams play OOS simply because they want to test themselves. St.Johns seems to be the latter. And St. Joseph Regional is as relevant as Santa Margarita IMO. Doesn't give them street cred for beating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 6 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: They lost those games. They need to beat a big name OOS program to be considered "national." Disagree if that is the criteria then we would only talk about 10 teams and there would only be 5 guys here talking to themselves vs the 30-40 we have now what is National? showing up and performing well not always winning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, BobbySanchez said: And St. Joseph Regional is as relevant as Santa Margarita IMO. Lay off the drugs. Sjr has been in the USA Today rankings in the 90s prob 4-5x. Further, sjr has beaten a top 10 St. Edwards team and a top 25 state champion dematha team in different years. Who has SM beaten Oos? And how old are you ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Sjc also beat up Pitt CC last year week 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 hour ago, BobbySanchez said: East from Utah would be a good example from season East beat a shitty dls team w a last second fg. Big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 7 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: Eastern Christian always scheduled very tough OOS games, but were never considered nationally relevant because they always lost. #fineline Yep you gotta win big games, whether in state or out. OOS can be a bit overhyped at times. Anyone can schedule tough teams and get their teeth kicked in. Although I am all for aggressive schedules and love to see team challenge themselves it's 2 part. You schedule tough and you actually have to win some.The first is easy. It's the second one that matters I know it's new "participation" world out there. Playing someone close and doing "well" is neat and all, but it's a loss. A loss by one point is not a L+ compared to getting blown out and getting a L. I've heard people actual use the phrase, "good loss" it's really sad. Yep Germany almost got that W in WWII worked or great for them. And I guess it was a good loss for Hillary this past November, I'm mean it was close, so it had to be a good loss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbySanchez Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Just now, Cossacks said: Yep you gotta win big games, whether in state or out. OOS is a it overhyped at times. Anyone can schedule tough teams and get their teeth kicked in. Although I am all for aggressive schedules and love to see team challenge themselves it's 2 part. You schedule tough and you actually have to win some.The first is easy. It's the second one that matters I know it's new "participation" world out there. Playing someone close and doing "well" is neat and all, but it's a loss. A loss by one point is not a L+ compared to getting blown out and getting a L. I've heard people actual use the phrase, "good loss" it's really sad. Yep Germany almost got that W in WWII. And I guess it was a good loss for Hillary this past November, I'm mean it was close, so it had to be good. You just articulated exactly what I meant. There are some teams like Bishop Gorman, who schedule national teams like Miami Central who fully expect to win. In defeat, they are pissed. Then, there might be a team like Central Catholic from Oregon, who schedule national teams simply to test and see how they might do. In defeat, they are happy. I believe St.Johns fits more in the narrative of Central Catholic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbySanchez Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 23 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: East beat a shitty dls team w a last second fg. Big deal. I remember a while back when Don Bosco beat De La Salle 23-21, on pretty much the exact way East did a lot of people were dismissing Don Bosco and thought they were shitty. But really, it was the beginning of them wreaking havoc on the national scene. Turns out Don Bosco could ball. East is the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 32 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: Lay off the drugs. Sjr has been in the USA Today rankings in the 90s prob 4-5x. Further, sjr has beaten a top 10 St. Edwards team and a top 25 state champion dematha team in different years. Who has SM beaten Oos? And how old are you ? I dont think anything that happened in the 90s for the program is relevant today (Santa Margarita also had finishes in the top 25 in the 90s going by USA today). That being said SJR was a better team than SM was last year imo, but a game that would be 60-40 in favor of SJR. Neither team was anything to write home about last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbySanchez Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 28 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: Lay off the drugs. Sjr has been in the USA Today rankings in the 90s prob 4-5x. Further, sjr has beaten a top 10 St. Edwards team and a top 25 state champion dematha team in different years. Who has SM beaten Oos? And how old are you ? MJD, I've watched the SJR-Serra game in person and the SM-Serra game. If I'm completely honest, SM actually looked crispier and better than SJR did in their game against Serra. Granted, this could have been due to SJR traveling three different time zones but you cannot deny this fact. The scores were identical. The team from Philadelphia St.Joes Prep looked the best out of the group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbySanchez Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Just now, steeler01 said: I dont think anything that happened in the 90s for the program is relevant today (Santa Margarita also had finishes in the top 25 in the 90s fling by USA today). That being said SJR was a better team than SM was last year imo, but a game that would be 60-40 in favor of SJR. Neither team was anything to write home about last year I think that SJR and Santa Margarita game would have been a really good matchup. Definitely a good game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Mjd33 said: East beat a shitty dls team w a last second fg. Big deal. I wouldn't go so far as to call them shitty. They did make the Cali Open title game (I know they went through Norcal, but a shitty team couldn't do that). Even a shitty DLS would be top 10 in most states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, BobbySanchez said: I remember a while back when Don Bosco beat De La Salle 23-21, on pretty much the exact way East did a lot of people were dismissing Don Bosco and thought they were shitty. But really, it was the beginning of them wreaking havoc on the national scene. Turns out Don Bosco could ball. East is the same. Ok here comes 2 natty's for east Utah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, BobbySanchez said: MJD, I've watched the SJR-Serra game in person and the SM-Serra game. If I'm completely honest, SM actually looked crispier and better than SJR did in their game against Serra. Granted, this could have been due to SJR traveling three different time zones but you cannot deny this fact. The scores were identical. The team from Philadelphia St.Joes Prep looked the best out of the group Sjr got up 17-0 than took the foot off the gas. No excuse they played like crap but look at the season's entire body of work between sjr and SM. Cant really compare .... Second part I'm in agreement sjp was legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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