maxchoboian Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 What the hell is the deal with restaurants automatically adding a 23% tip to the bill? Not sure if it's happening everywhere, but it is here -- no matter the number of people in a party (2 people - automatic 23% added; 8 people - 23% added). A tip has to do with the service received, and 23% equates to outstanding service. For restaurants to include a 23% gratuity in every bill is silly. They should increase their menu prices and pay their workers more if that is a concern, and let people decide where they want to eat. And then the customers can decide what the tip percentage should be for each meal. Some servers will deserve 23%, plenty deserve 20%, some deserve 15%, and a few less. I can guarantee that the young lady last weekend who struggled talking about basic menu items and had to be reminded that we had asked for a little extra oil AND vinegar and asked if we wanted extra bread after we specifically had told her we did not want extra bread and came by on two occassions questioning if our plates could be cleared when we obviously were still enjoying our meals, was a very cute girl in a cool restaurant, but did not deserve a 23% tip. Maybe she will as she becomes better at what she does, but the point is there is no way every single server deserves an automatic 23% tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 54 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: What the hell is the deal with restaurants automatically adding a 23% tip to the bill? Not sure if it's happening everywhere, but it is here. I'll keep my eye out for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted August 7, 2021 Report Share Posted August 7, 2021 20 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: For the life of me, I can't figure out why Dr. Quack didn't rush to his computer to post the most recent jobs report. The U.S. economy added 943,000 jobs in July. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Rabid One Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 5/7/2021 at 12:39 PM, Atticus Finch said: I deal in facts, not anecdotes from dumbass quacks who can't even get things right in their "specialty." Ask any business owner and they'll give you one biased perspective. Here's anecdotal evidence. I go to a lot of restaurants and bars in a big hospitality town and I've never been delayed, refused a seat, waited on a meal because they didn't have enough help. And let's be clear. This is only a hospitality/service industry issue. A field that has historically paid shit wages. Businesses have had to start giving signing bonuses to entice people. Bormio thinks adding 1.4 million jobs in 3 months and wait staff getting signing bonuses is a disaster. 🤡 Enticements are necessary because dees peoples can get more sitting on their fat asses, than working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Old Rabid One said: Enticements are necessary because dees peoples can get more sitting on their fat asses, than working! For first time, average pay for supermarket and restaurant workers tops $15 an hour The U.S. labor market hit a new milestone recently: For the first time, average pay in restaurants and supermarkets climbed above $15 an hour. Wages have been rising rapidly as the economy reopens and businesses struggle to hire enough workers. Some of the biggest gains have gone to workers in some of the lowest-paying industries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 5/7/2021 at 12:18 PM, Bormio said: ... about the jobs report. Gee, wonder why. American businesses having to compete with the US government in order to hire people. 🤡 Numbers show Florida ending unemployment benefits didn't work In May, the state of Florida announced it would end the $300 federal unemployment benefit. Gov. Ron DeSantis said the extra financial incentive was keeping people from returning to the workplace. But, new numbers suggest so far it could be having the opposite effect. Payroll Management Firm UKG found employment fell .9 percent in states where the federal benefits ended but rose 2.3 percent in states that still have them. Similarly, work shifts grew 2.2 percent between May and July in states where benefits ended - 4.1 percent where the additional federal benefit has been maintained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSouth Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 8/6/2021 at 10:11 AM, maxchoboian said: What the hell is the deal with restaurants automatically adding a 23% tip to the bill? Not sure if it's happening everywhere, but it is here -- no matter the number of people in a party (2 people - automatic 23% added; 8 people - 23% added). A tip has to do with the service received, and 23% equates to outstanding service. For restaurants to include a 23% gratuity in every bill is silly. They should increase their menu prices and pay their workers more if that is a concern, and let people decide where they want to eat. And then the customers can decide what the tip percentage should be for each meal. Some servers will deserve 23%, plenty deserve 20%, some deserve 15%, and a few less. I can guarantee that the young lady last weekend who struggled talking about basic menu items and had to be reminded that we had asked for a little extra oil AND vinegar and asked if we wanted extra bread after we specifically had told her we did not want extra bread and came by on two occassions questioning if our plates could be cleared when we obviously were still enjoying our meals, was a very cute girl in a cool restaurant, but did not deserve a 23% tip. Maybe she will as she becomes better at what she does, but the point is there is no way every single server deserves an automatic 23% tip. The majority of bars and restaurants in South Beach do this, but not 23%, more like 18% or 20%. That usually happens because Brazilians, Argentinians, and Brits (along with a large handful of others) don’t tip or don’t want to so it takes away any chance of a $1,000+ tab getting left with $0. Semantics are also important. A “gratuity” is fully kept by the service staff and a “service charge” is actually something the venue can legally take a decent chunk of for whatever reason they choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 8, 2021 Report Share Posted November 8, 2021 Anybody know what the jobs numbers were last month? @Bormio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 8, 2021 Report Share Posted November 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Anybody know what the jobs numbers were last month? @Bormio anyone know why morons think fake job report statistics mean diddly ??? 💩 PS: Why not ask yerself where Joey is gonna get all that Magnesium... ...fer yer snot greenie auto dealio. 🐛 BTW: no car no job most places still... 🤓 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted November 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 9:42 AM, Troll said: anyone know why morons think fake job report statistics mean diddly ??? 💩 PS: Why not ask yerself where Joey is gonna get all that Magnesium... ...fer yer snot greenie auto dealio. 🐛 BTW: no car no job most places still... 🤓 Growth anemic, inflation accelerating. Back to the 70’s. Country way underemployed. Fuel pumps empty, spam for Thanksgiving, coal in Christmas stockings (until they ban it). Going to be hunting Democrats with dogs soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 14 hours ago, Bormio said: Growth anemic, inflation accelerating. Back to the 70’s. Country way underemployed. Fuel pumps empty, spam for Thanksgiving, coal in Christmas stockings (until they ban it). Going to be hunting Democrats with dogs soon. Since you failed all of us, I'll post the job numbers. Strong U.S. payrolls brighten economic outlook; millions still missing from workforce The Labor Department's closely watched employment report's survey of establishments on Friday showed nonfarm payrolls increased by 531,000 jobs last month. Data for September was revised higher to show 312,000 jobs created instead of the previously reported 194,000. Economists polled by Reuters had forecast payrolls rising by 450,000 jobs. Almost 850,000 jobs added in the last two months. Bormio angry. Bormio lying. Bormio sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 An analysis of the monthly job revisions made so far this year. The government dramatically underestimated job growth this summer Initial reports underestimated job growth by a cumulative 626,000 over four months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 @Bormio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Inflation is at its highest level this century. Non-farm employment is still about 4 million below the high achieved before the pandemic hit. Labor participation is well below where it was two years ago. The Misery Index is at nearly 11%. But per Andy, Bormio should be celebrating. 🤡 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 No, Bormio is a clown and a quack. That's the message. Concha big mad that all the stuff he was bragging about pre-COVID, which was also trending up Pre-Trump, are still still trending up under Biden. It's almost as if concha was just manufacturing talking points. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Uncle Joe is definitely killing it lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, zulu1128 said: Uncle Joe is definitely killing it lol. He's had a 30+ point cratering in just 10 months. And that's with a mainstream media that in-fights tooth and nail to be first in line to tongue his balls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: No, Bormio is a clown and a quack. That's the message. Concha big mad that all the stuff he was bragging about pre-COVID, which was also trending up Pre-Trump, are still still trending up under Biden. It's almost as if concha was just manufacturing talking points. 🤔 I don't recall bragging about the number of employed Americans being down 4 million from its peak, lauding high inflation and a high Misery Index or praising the labor participation rate being sharply down. But you are a liar, so there's that. Carry on, Andy. Your $40k/yr clerk duties await. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 16 hours ago, concha said: Carry on, Andy. Your $40k/yr clerk duties await. Hey, chuck...$40k/yr is more than blockhead813 and imagoodboynow make combined. It's one of the many reasons people laugh and totally disregard their saggy opinions on everything.. ....laugh with us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, RedZone said: Hey, chuck...$40k/yr is more than blockhead813 and imagoodboynow make combined. It's one of the many reasons people laugh and totally disregard their saggy opinions on everything.. ....laugh with us! It's actually pretty comical that chuck (aka concha) thinks he's the high earner of the forum anyways. I blame the internet for chuck's thought process regarding yearly salaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 For the record. ..zulu1128 does NOT think chuck is obsessed with Finch's name/job/ salary. Imagine that. The King of "Obsession Labeling' sees NO obsession. lmao Oh well..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 8/9/2021 at 9:37 AM, Atticus Finch said: For first time, average pay for supermarket and restaurant workers tops $15 an hour The U.S. labor market hit a new milestone recently: For the first time, average pay in restaurants and supermarkets climbed above $15 an hour. Wages have been rising rapidly as the economy reopens and businesses struggle to hire enough workers. Some of the biggest gains have gone to workers in some of the lowest-paying industries. PS: but you DID manage to TO CUT YER MOMS retirement and life savings ...in half 💩 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 I'll await Bormio's certain argument that this is, counterintuitively, bad news. Weekly jobless claims plunge to 199,000, the lowest level in more than 50 years The number of Americans filing initial unemployment claims tumbled to 199,000 — the lowest level since November 1969 — the Labor Department reported Wednesday. Separately, the Commerce Department said that consumer spending increased by 1.3 percent in October, its fastest pace since March, in a sign that Americans are continuing to spend despite rising prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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concha Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 49 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: I'll await Bormio's certain argument that this is, counterintuitively, bad news. Weekly jobless claims plunge to 199,000, the lowest level in more than 50 years The number of Americans filing initial unemployment claims tumbled to 199,000 — the lowest level since November 1969 — the Labor Department reported Wednesday. Separately, the Commerce Department said that consumer spending increased by 1.3 percent in October, its fastest pace since March, in a sign that Americans are continuing to spend despite rising prices. 1) Given the current low LPR, the labor force being 4M workers shy of its high under Trump and the over 10.4M current job openings, that's good? Americans not wanting to work is a good thing? 2) Which is much less than 1.3% when netted against inflation. Here's some fun data: Real disposable personal income is declining. This would indicate that folks are spending the "free" gubmint money they saved, which is thus not going to be sustainable spending. Look at consumer sentiment: "...the University of Michigan reported that its consumer sentiment index fell 4.3 percentage points to a reading of 67.4 this month, its lowest level since November 2011, weighed down by inflation concerns.". What a dumbass. But he thinks he's being clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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