Horsefly Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Cat_Scratch said: I find it humorous that little league Cocoa has played 8 different teams listed in the poll. With only one win though. Many were very good games right to the end. What happened to cocoa? Haven’t heard much from them in the last few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishspinners Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 37 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: MLK was ranked #1027 in 2020. By no means does scheduling them make CG nationally-relevant. CG? And this is 2021 now. King is which is usually never short on talent, is rolling out a 5 star QB along with a handful of other D1 bound kids. Now, I'm not banging the drumb calling for King to be a top 25 here. But there's certainly not more than a 1,000 teams better than them in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, fishspinners said: CG? And this is 2021 now. King is which is usually never short on talent, is rolling out a 5 star QB along with a handful of other D1 bound kids. Now, I'm not banging the drumb calling for King to be a top 25 here. But there's certainly not more than a 1,000 teams better than them in 2021. If CG would beat a team like X or PC, I'd be sold. Hell, Trinity* even lost to Carmel IN last week. Who knows how good a team they'll be this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishspinners Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: If CG would beat a team like X or PC, I'd be sold. Hell, Trinity* even lost to Carmel IN last week. Who knows how good a team they'll be this season? Carmel is the team I've been talking about this whole time. Not sure why you keep bringing CG into this. Yes Carmel beat Trinity last week and they play King this week. Carmel is the 3rd best team in Indiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 37 minutes ago, Horsefly said: What happened to cocoa? Haven’t heard much from them in the last few years School board happened. They seem to restrict some teams more than others. Have a feeling one of the reasons Wilks left. Schneider seems like a good replacement. Just a tough classification in the final 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Cat_Scratch said: I find it humorous that little league Cocoa has played 8 different teams listed in the poll. With only one win though. Many were very good games right to the end. And I was at one of those games had to be some of the worst weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 31 minutes ago, fishspinners said: Carmel is the team I've been talking about this whole time. Not sure why you keep bringing CG into this. Yes Carmel beat Trinity last week and they play King this week. Carmel is the 3rd best team in Indiana. The #1 teams in bad HSFB states like UT, IN, MI, etc. should never be in the T25. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, hardhit1 said: And I was at one of those games had to be some of the worst weather St. Edward? Was a great game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Cat_Scratch said: St. EDWARDS? No St Edward 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cat_Scratch said: St. EDWARDS? Was suppose to play our Ryder cup that day but called off because of rain and 50+ mile hour winds. I said to myself what can I do now? Well dressed in my golf wet suit I went to the game. The weather was so bad that the Cocoa band went to the bus to dry off after playing at halftime 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishspinners Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: The #1 teams in bad HSFB states like UT, IN, MI, etc. should never be in the T25. Utah maybe. But Indiana and Michigan produce plenty of good football. I'm not sure how you evaluate talent or teams, but if you don't think a team like Center Grove is a top 25 HSFB team, then you're doing it wrong. I understand that today you need to have a stacked schedule in-state and OOS to have any chance at a "Mythical Natty". But to think teams that don't schedule multiple OOS are just not relevant is naive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, fishspinners said: Utah maybe. But Indiana and Michigan produce plenty of good football. I'm not sure how you evaluate talent or teams, but if you don't think a team like Center Grove is a top 25 HSFB team, then you're doing it wrong. I understand that today you need to have a stacked schedule in-state and OOS to have any chance at a "Mythical Natty". But to think teams that don't schedule multiple OOS are just not relevant is naive. Like I posted, if the top IN publics would start scheduling and beating other top teams from the Midwest, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Heck, I'd settle for the top IN publics playing the top IN privates for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, fishspinners said: Utah maybe. But Indiana and Michigan produce plenty of good football. I'm not sure how you evaluate talent or teams, but if you don't think a team like Center Grove is a top 25 HSFB team, then you're doing it wrong. I understand that today you need to have a stacked schedule in-state and OOS to have any chance at a "Mythical Natty". But to think teams that don't schedule multiple OOS are just not relevant is naive. You miss that he has an agenda. A couple of agendas actually. He wants to pit the ridiculously annually stacked private schools against public schools in some weird effort to prove that power privates are elite and power publics can't much be. He also has a match maker business. If teams don't work with his site in setting up games, he won't have much good to say about them while slathering praise on terrible teams like that Bishop Sycamore garbage this season. Once you understand the angles, most of his stuff makes more sense. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Like I posted, if the top IN publics would start scheduling and beating other top teams from the Midwest, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Heck, I'd settle for the top IN publics playing the top IN privates for starters. Just now, HawgGoneIt said: You miss that he has an agenda. A couple of agendas actually. He wants to pit the ridiculously annually stacked private schools against public schools in some weird effort to prove that power privates are elite and power publics can't much be. He also has a match maker business. If teams don't work with his site in setting up games, he won't have much good to say about them while slathering praise on terrible teams like that Bishop Sycamore garbage this season. Once you understand the angles, most of his stuff makes more sense. 👀 see what I mean His timing was impeccable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, fishspinners said: Utah maybe. But Indiana and Michigan produce plenty of good football. I'm not sure how you evaluate talent or teams, but if you don't think a team like Center Grove is a top 25 HSFB team, then you're doing it wrong. I understand that today you need to have a stacked schedule in-state and OOS to have any chance at a "Mythical Natty". But to think teams that don't schedule multiple OOS are just not relevant is naive. Ben Davis along with Indy Cath had good squads last year. Maybe Center Grove this year. Michigan to date nothing to really talk about maybe a team cracking the top 100. Warren Central used to have some players but more undisciplined as a team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishspinners Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Like I posted, if the top IN publics would start scheduling and beating other top teams from the Midwest, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Heck, I'd settle for the top IN publics playing the top IN privates for starters. I don't think you follow Indiana HSFB. Cathedral is the top private school in state and they play CG every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, fishspinners said: I don't think you follow Indiana HSFB. Cathedral is the top private school in state and they play CG every year. I do not since it's not a top HSFB state. CA, TX, FL, GL, GA, OH, NJ, MD/DC, etc. take up the bulk of my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishspinners Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, hardhit1 said: Ben Davis along with Indy Cath had good squads last year. Maybe Center Grove this year. Michigan to date nothing to really talk about maybe a team cracking the top 100. Warren Central used to have some players but more undisciplined as a team. Center Grove, Carmel, and Indy Cathedral have been the top three in Indiana for about five years now. A couple of other teams like New Pal and Westfield have had good runs, but those top three have been the standard. Warren Central had the best run in Indiana large class history around ten years ago. But they haven't been on that level in awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishspinners Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said: I do not since it's not a top HSFB state. CA, TX, GL, GA, OH, NJ, MD/DC, etc. take up the bulk of my time. How do you not include FL in that mix? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, fishspinners said: Center Grove, Carmel, and Indy Cathedral have been the top three in Indiana for about five years now. A couple of other teams like New Pal and Westfield have had good runs, but those top three have been the standard. Warren Central had the best run in Indiana large class history around ten years ago. But they haven't been on that level in awhile. Warren Central played the GCL teams about 5 years ago with some ugly endings understand their coach went to IMG I believe hey I’m backing you up a bit but okay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, hardhit1 said: Warren Central played the GCL teams about 5 years ago with some ugly endings understand their coach went to IMG I believe hey I’m backing you up a bit but okay Over the last 10 seasons the IN power pubs have one (1) win vs Top 50 OOS teams (X in 2016). One. Enough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, fishspinners said: How do you not include FL in that mix? it's there now. Typed to quick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Over the last 10 seasons the IN power pubs have one (1) win vs Top 50 OOS teams (X in 2016). One. Enough said. Thanks for supporting my points BTW-2020 Brownsburg beat #26 X Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 31 minutes ago, fishspinners said: Center Grove, Carmel, and Indy Cathedral have been the top three in Indiana for about five years now. A couple of other teams like New Pal and Westfield have had good runs, but those top three have been the standard. Warren Central had the best run in Indiana large class history around ten years ago. But they haven't been on that level in awhile. WC was #33 in 2018 & #41 in 2016 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GardenStateBaller Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, hardhit1 said: Thanks for supporting my points BTW-2020 Brownsburg beat #26 X Ohio Good to know. I was only referencing the three IN power pubs: CG, Carmel, WC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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