Being sufficiently woke means celebrating the deaths on 9/11/2001

[badrouter]

8 hours ago, Atticus Finch said:

Didn't you hear? There's one guy in the liberal arts department at a community college somewhere. There's also that guy over on a park bench.

badrouter is not only unhinged but he constantly argues in bad faith. He has now conflated explaining and justifying with enjoying.

Apparently if you can explain 9/11 you also enjoyed it!

Like viruses, ideas tend to be contagious, and can spread exponentially. The idea that the country is irreparably oppressive, and thus must be destroyed from within, has gained a tremendous amount of steam over the last five or so years. Even if the percentage of people feeling that way is still quite small, the number has grown exponentially. And I've been quite disappointed at the lack of denouncing of the idea by those on the left. Just as Trump never really strongly denounced right wing extremists-thus opening the door for people to believe he supported them- we don't see the more reasonable leftists denouncing the extremists on their side. So, you can say I'm a loon for worrying about something that doesn't seem to be a significant problem now. But, I tend to think I'm more like those who noticed exponential growth in Covid cases in around February 2020. The number of cases was still very low, but exponential growth was clear. The number of people who want to see the country destroyed may still be very small, but it's far greater now than just a few years ago.

[badrouter]

I ask again, Is it me who is demented, or people like this teacher in the second largest school district in the country (not to be confused with Greg Gipe; that was a teacher in Sacramento) who had posters hanging in his classroom saying "F--- Amerikka" and "F--- the Police"?

The calls to destroy America are not nearly as rare as many think

[Nolebull813]

Martin Luther King Jr had a good point about this 

 

[badrouter]

School board member votes against resolution honoring the victims on 9/11: Story

[Nolebull813]

3 hours ago, badrouter said:

School board member votes against resolution honoring the victims on 9/11: Story

Most of them don’t assimilate to our culture and values. They hate this country with a passion. They don’t assimilate anywhere in Western civilization. Look at Europe. It’s a war zone in every major city. And almost every criminal is of Muslim background. It is a barbaric religion that doesn’t help, complement, or positively contribute in any way in Western society. They have no place here. When you produce more bad than good, that’s called a liability not an asset 

[badrouter]

20 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Most of them don’t assimilate to our culture and values. They hate this country with a passion. They don’t assimilate anywhere in Western civilization. Look at Europe. It’s a war zone in every major city. And almost every criminal is of Muslim background. It is a barbaric religion that doesn’t help, complement, or positively contribute in any way in Western society. They have no place here. When you produce more bad than good, that’s called a liability not an asset 

The terms we have to pivot to using are “morals” and “values” and “ethics”. “Culture” is not the term we want to use. There are many anodyne traits of culture, and making the issue over that word misleads a lot of people. It’s “red meat” for the radical left. Culture can be things like salsa dancing or hip hop or rodeo. Nothing wrong or inherently divisive about any of those things. 

[Troll]

On 9/13/2021 at 8:47 AM, Atticus Finch said:

We can't put the insults aside because you are so obviously demented that they are the only reasonable response.

Kettle ?

😝

[Troll]

8 hours ago, badrouter said:

The terms we have to pivot to using are “morals” and “values” and “ethics”. “Culture” is not the term we want to use. There are many anodyne traits of culture, and making the issue over that word misleads a lot of people. It’s “red meat” for the radical left. Culture can be things like salsa dancing or hip hop or rodeo. Nothing wrong or inherently divisive about any of those things. 

 

Seems to fit this board better 🤷‍♂️

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

On 9/12/2021 at 1:19 PM, Nolebull813 said:

The logic in the accusation is that when you vote for people who hate the country and wish to destroy it, then you are complicit in their atrocities. 
 

You can’t play ignorant when Democrats have shown themselves to align with domestic terrorists. Remember last summer? The now Vice President bailed the terrorists out of jail. She help bail a person out who committed murder. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/09/08/bail-fund-backed-by-kamala-harris-freed-man-charged-with-murder/amp/

NY Post…. Hahaha 🤣 

bgw

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

20 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

Most of them don’t assimilate to our culture and values. They hate this country with a passion. They don’t assimilate anywhere in Western civilization. Look at Europe. It’s a war zone in every major city. And almost every criminal is of Muslim background. It is a barbaric religion that doesn’t help, complement, or positively contribute in any way in Western society. They have no place here. When you produce more bad than good, that’s called a liability not an asset 

Definition of Islamphobia….

bgw

[On2whls]

11 hours ago, Troll said:

 

Seems to fit this board better 🤷‍♂️

I watched Lou Holtz, along with a bunch of other speakers some years back.  He was talking about building a business around vision.  At one point he asked,”imagine if the great Dr. King started his famous speech with, I have a five year strategic plan”.   

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

10 hours ago, On2whls said:

I watched Lou Holtz, along with a bunch of other speakers some years back.  He was talking about building a business around vision.  At one point he asked,”imagine if the great Dr. King started his famous speech with, I have a five year strategic plan”.   

Yeah, after 346 years of chattel bondage, 100 years of Jim Crow a five year strategic plan collaborating with racist capitalism. 
 

Makes sense to me. 
 

Not. 
 

bgw

[Nolebull813]

19 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

Definition of Islamphobia….

bgw

It’s a known fact that MOST don’t assimilate. Most meaning the majority 

[Nolebull813]

8 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

Yeah, after 346 years of chattel bondage, 100 years of Jim Crow a five year strategic plan collaborating with racist capitalism. 
 

Makes sense to me. 
 

Not. 
 

bgw

You can break the cycle in one generation. You can be born in 2001 and not be oppressed in any way and prosper in this great country 

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said:

You can break the cycle in one generation. You can be born in 2001 and not be oppressed in any way and prosper in this great country 

But you’re a once in a generation clown. 
 

Congratulations. 🎈🎊🎉🍾 

bgw

[Nolebull813]

3 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

But you’re a once in a generation clown. 
 

Congratulations. 🎈🎊🎉🍾 

bgw

No exaggeration. Minorities in this country are at their most privileged and easiest to succeed than at any point in recorded American history. 
 

There is literally NO road blocks or speed bumps. Nothing can stop a minority that WANTS to succeed. 
 

You can say the grandparents were discriminated against 50-100 years ago so they weren’t able to pass down generational wealth. Even if that was true almost every college in the country has financial aid, athletic and academic scholarships readily available for people in need. And nowadays, most minority groups get priority. Think Affirmative Action on steroids. 
 

This white supremacist patriarchal society they keep scaring you with is an imaginary boogie man meant to absolve minorities from poor choices and responsibilities. 
 

Thankfully only the radicals like @Ga96  and @BUFORDGAWOLVESthink this devilish trash. Most minorities I interact with are hard earners and contributors to society. Not scum like the lefties on this site 

[World Citizen]

On 9/18/2021 at 8:57 PM, badrouter said:

The terms we have to pivot to using are “morals” and “values” and “ethics”. “Culture” is not the term we want to use. There are many anodyne traits of culture, and making the issue over that word misleads a lot of people. It’s “red meat” for the radical left. Culture can be things like salsa dancing or hip hop or rodeo. Nothing wrong or inherently divisive about any of those things. 

'Culture' is what you caught your eye in Noles post?  Nothing else worth responding to?  

Smh

[On2whls]

11 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

Yeah, after 346 years of chattel bondage, 100 years of Jim Crow a five year strategic plan collaborating with racist capitalism. 
 

Makes sense to me. 
 

Not. 
 

bgw

Maybe you misunderstood the point of my post.  Lou Holtz was suggesting that business owners think more like visionaries, than following the silly strategic planning processes that you see so often radiating from corporate central.  Nothing wrong with that, is there?

Unless you think Lou Holtz is guilty of culturally appropriating MLK’s thought process, in which case then maybe he should be cancelled. 

[Nolebull813]

16 minutes ago, World Citizen said:

'Culture' is what you caught your eye in Noles post?  Nothing else worth responding to?  

Smh

Stats back it up. Most Muslims don’t assimilate to Western Culture. Pointing out facts isn’t discrimination 

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

3 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

No exaggeration. Minorities in this country are at their most privileged and easiest to succeed than at any point in recorded American history. 
 

There is literally NO road blocks or speed bumps. Nothing can stop a minority that WANTS to succeed. 
 

You can say the grandparents were discriminated against 50-100 years ago so they weren’t able to pass down generational wealth. Even if that was true almost every college in the country has financial aid, athletic and academic scholarships readily available for people in need. And nowadays, most minority groups get priority. Think Affirmative Action on steroids. 
 

This white supremacist patriarchal society they keep scaring you with is an imaginary boogie man meant to absolve minorities from poor choices and responsibilities. 
 

Thankfully only the radicals like @Ga96  and @BUFORDGAWOLVESthink this devilish trash. Most minorities I interact with are hard earners and contributors to society. Not scum like the lefties on this site 

Well….. you consistently work at being stupid that is certain. 
 

If being centrist is a radical, I’ll take that as a compliment. 
 

bgw

[Ga96]

On 9/19/2021 at 8:06 PM, On2whls said:

I watched Lou Holtz, along with a bunch of other speakers some years back.  He was talking about building a business around vision.  At one point he asked,”imagine if the great Dr. King started his famous speech with, I have a five year strategic plan”.   

You mean this lou holtz?

Holtz, a studio analyst for the network, said on a Friday night "GameDay" show that Rodriguez may well be a leader of men, but then added, "Ya know, Hitler was a great leader, too."

[Ga96]

3 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

But you’re a once in a generation clown. 
 

Congratulations. 🎈🎊🎉🍾 

bgw

Im willing to bet every generation in his family could be contenders for that.

[On2whls]

5 minutes ago, Ga96 said:

You mean this lou holtz?

Holtz, a studio analyst for the network, said on a Friday night "GameDay" show that Rodriguez may well be a leader of men, but then added, "Ya know, Hitler was a great leader, too."

Why did you fail to include the rest of the story?  Your tendency to post only part of a story with a high degree of frequency indicates to all that you seem to have a problem with truth, but no problem with instigation.  Isn’t that the sort of behavior that led to many an unjust lynching of folks back in the day?  

[World Citizen]

On 9/13/2021 at 5:47 PM, dan in daytona said:

And that's the problem. It's not an honest argument. Even we, a small group of high school football fans, rarely all agree on much of anything either. Now add 300,000,000 plus different, freedom lovingAmericans of all nationalities, races, creeds, beliefs . Surely some small amount cheered on the Oklahoma City bombing (anti gov militias), MLK's assassination (bigots, rednecks), 9/11 (according to Nolebull: Democrates, Lefties, socialist, commies, BLM, Arabs, Moslems, ect,ect. ) Ignorant "F's" like Nolebull paint large groups of humanity with the same bush. Dems hate America and babies, BLM hate America and want free stuff, Mexicans are lazy and want our jobs as ditch diggers, house keeepers, fruit pickers, meat packing plants workers, yard men, and drug dealers. Outside of drug dealing, I don't know of any white or black people interested in any of those fulfilling Mexican border crosssing jobs. I haven't seen a white man in a ditch for over 30 yrs !!! Come on, we're all the same. We want health and happiness for our families. And some of us care about others too. If you don't so be it....just get the hell out of the way. We got work to do building a new and greater inclusive America

I didn't see this before.  I agree 100%.  If anything this country has had a consistent 1/3 of the country who were against this country becoming independent.  1/3 against abolishing slavery.  1/3 against civil rights/voting rights (probably more than 1/3 against women voting).  1/3 today willing to throw it all away because their cult leader lost an election and couldn't publicly hate the same people anymore.   

The bolded part is golden.   

[World Citizen]

3 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

Stats back it up. Most Muslims don’t assimilate to Western Culture. Pointing out facts isn’t discrimination 

What is western culture?  I think you mean Christianity.  Maybe you can skip your generalities and explain.