HurricaneNick Posted October 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 47 minutes ago, Slotback Right said: As to your name calling, you are wasting your time. If I liked you or respected you, then I might care what you think about me, but I don't so why the hell should I care? I don’t respect you either so I’m glad we find common ground there! Just thought you’d address the classlessness going on at your school. But nope! Deflect deflect deflect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLS_Spartan Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 10 hours ago, HurricaneNick said: I don’t respect you either so I’m glad we find common ground there! Just thought you’d address the classlessness going on at your school. But nope! Deflect deflect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 This is a very ugly pissing contest. What is the point? There are 2 different issues we are discussing. One is alumni that have gone criminal. I’m willing to bet that if you google any school that has had tens of thousands of graduates over the past 60 years you are going to find plenty of losers. The second issue, and point of this thread, is Servite’s student section being outwardly racist repeatedly. This has nothing to do with alumni getting arrested long after graduation after they are no longer affiliated with the school. This is a more deeply rooted culture issue. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Are there any black kids at all on the Servite team? Seems like there can't be with all that mentality in the stands and student body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 11 hours ago, Bodysurf said: I haven’t been to the Servite campus since the 80s. Back then it would have been a Walmart. Now it is probably more like a K-Mart. Kmart? Nice one. Didn't think of that. Blue Light special for Servire. Spill on aisle 5! What a dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Are there any black kids at all on the Servite team? Seems like there can't be with all that mentality in the stands and student body. Hawg....help me out..... What's wrong with racial slurs, threats and F Bombs ?????? I mean...back in the late 50's and early 60's....especially in the melon patch....... Shoot, in 1984 down in Martin Stadium...one of the Lowndes players called one of the Hawgs a....."fucking Viking wannabee". They never finished the first half..... There's some things worse than racial slurs, threats and F Bombs. Gospel.... Rufus>> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: This is a very ugly pissing contest. What is the point? There are 2 different issues we are discussing. One is alumni that have gone criminal. I’m willing to bet that if you google any school that has had tens of thousands of graduates over the past 60 years you are going to find plenty of losers. The second issue, and point of this thread, is Servite’s student section being outwardly racist repeatedly. This has nothing to do with alumni getting arrested long after graduation after they are no longer affiliated with the school. This is a more deeply rooted culture issue. Where is @Sammyswordsman!? No defense or explanation of these rabid accusations!? Crickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Well…. This got a little heated…. bgw 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testadura Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 14 hours ago, Bodysurf said: No Block I’m not kidding. I also appreciate the comedic value, albeit unintentional, that you sometimes bring to this board 😉 the enemy of my enemy is my friend . . . at least for a few minutes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 49 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: This is a very ugly pissing contest. What is the point? There are 2 different issues we are discussing. One is alumni that have gone criminal. I’m willing to bet that if you google any school that has had tens of thousands of graduates over the past 60 years you are going to find plenty of losers. The second issue, and point of this thread, is Servite’s student section being outwardly racist repeatedly. This has nothing to do with alumni getting arrested long after graduation after they are no longer affiliated with the school. This is a more deeply rooted culture issue. It’s only a matter of time before someone pulls up my arrest record 😵💫😵💫😵💫 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testadura Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, frankyjames said: Where is @Sammyswordsman!? No defense or explanation of these rabid accusations!? Crickets. he owes you no explanation I'm calling St Peter's Prep today. while my 15-yr-old daughter was cheering this Friday, 2 black JV players on SPP's sidelines called my daughter and her friend n!ggas. my daughter and her friend are white. The cheer team has 3 blacks on it, and they weren't in the vicinity. My wife brought 3 black friends to the game to see my daughter. My daughter's best friend is black. Her Godparents are black. I demand an explanation. I want a public apology. how could this happen in post-racial America? were they supremacists in disguise? Probably unvaccinated. little fragile ... people. those JV players are kids. they'll learn--hopefully. it's not the first time, but SPP is a great school. move on with our meaningful lives 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Testadura said: he owes you no explanation I'm calling St Peter's Prep today. while my 15-yr-old daughter was cheering this Friday, 2 black JV players on SPP's sidelines called my daughter and her friend n!ggas. my daughter and her friend are white. The cheer team has 3 blacks on it, and they weren't in the vicinity. My wife brought 3 black friends to the game to see my daughter. My daughter's best friend is black. Her Godparents are black. I demand an explanation. I want a public apology. how could this happen in post-racial America? were they supremacists in disguise? Probably unvaccinated. little fragile ... people. those JV players are kids. they'll learn--hopefully. it's not the first time, but SPP is a great school. move on with our meaningful lives This is not a post racial America. There still exist racism in this country. There is a great deal of haters that were brought up being taught to hate. What many of you will only learn later in life is that America was built with this as parts of it's foundation. How could it not be a factor in all things American? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, HawgGoneIt said: Are there any black kids at all on the Servite team? Seems like there can't be with all that mentality in the stands and student body. No one answered your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 42 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said: No one answered your question. They said enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testadura Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 52 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said: This is not a post racial America. There still exist racism in this country. There is a great deal of haters that were brought up being taught to hate. What many of you will only learn later in life is that America was built with this as parts of it's foundation. How could it not be a factor in all things American? i'm 55 and had a different childhood than you, apparently i was joking about the post-racial part, and please don't tell me that you're part of the cure. we've seen in so many cases the cure is worse than the flaw--e.g., authoritarian regimes, circumscribed liberty, cleansing, purification rituals, the list goes on. and the cure is almost always worse than the illness. humans are deeply flawed. E.g., The Fall from Grace. Hegel has a Fall. So does Marx. Socialists, too. All people are biased. do you give people liberty and political institutions that guide us in the right direction and cultural-moral institutions that do the same, or do you issue diktats from elites. this Country was never more than experiment with liberty. we don't know know how it will turn out. but i do know how monarchies, theocracies, totalitarian regimes, communists regimes, and socialism turned out--e.g., there's over a 100 million dead from the communist experiments in the 20th C. i don't feel like trying something grounded in emotionalism that's never worked so, we're flawed. you've said nothing of any moment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testadura Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: They said enough. besides on Nick's non-deleted link (luck of the draw), La Raza apparently went there in the early '80s, and went to Harvard before his terrifying armed-robbery spree sprinkled with death threats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Testadura said: besides on Nick's non-deleted link (luck of the draw), La Raza apparently went there in the early '80s, and went to Harvard before his terrifying armed-robbery spree sprinkled with death threats I wasn't overly concerned with the stuff they've tossed around from the past, but, more about the recent incident and obvious culture issue they have in their current student body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Testadura said: i'm 55 and has a different childhood than you, apparently i was joking about the post-racial part, and please don't tell me that you're part of the cure. we've seen in so many cases the cure is worse than the flaw--e.g., authoritarian regimes, circumscribed liberty, cleansing, purification rituals, the list goes on. and the cure is almost always worse than the illness. humans are deeply flawed. E.g., The Fall from Grace. Hegel has a Fall. So does Marx. Socialists, too. All people are biased. do you give people liberty and political institutions that guide us in the right direction and cultural-moral institutions that do the same, or do you issue diktats from elites. this Country was never more than experiment with liberty. we don't know know how it will turn out. but i do know how monarchies, theocracies, totalitarian regimes, communists regimes, and socialism turned out--there's over a 100 million dead from the communist experiments in the 20th C. i don't feel like trying something grounded in emotionalism that's never worked so, we're flawed. you've said nothing of any moment It is understood that by nature, all humans are bias for some reason or another. The issue is accepting facts wholly. If you feel a certain way about the subject but are unwilling to believe the reason for things being the way they are, you are lying to yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Well…. This got a little heated…. bgw The Trinity hate is real! which seems odd considering they are religious schools….on second thought not so odd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Testadura said: i'm 55 and had a different childhood than you, apparently i was joking about the post-racial part, and please don't tell me that you're part of the cure. we've seen in so many cases the cure is worse than the flaw--e.g., authoritarian regimes, circumscribed liberty, cleansing, purification rituals, the list goes on. and the cure is almost always worse than the illness. humans are deeply flawed. E.g., The Fall from Grace. Hegel has a Fall. So does Marx. Socialists, too. All people are biased. do you give people liberty and political institutions that guide us in the right direction and cultural-moral institutions that do the same, or do you issue diktats from elites. this Country was never more than experiment with liberty. we don't know know how it will turn out. but i do know how monarchies, theocracies, totalitarian regimes, communists regimes, and socialism turned out--e.g., there's over a 100 million dead from the communist experiments in the 20th C. i don't feel like trying something grounded in emotionalism that's never worked so, we're flawed. you've said nothing of any moment I am taking this one topic at a time. I am 62 next month. Yes we did have different childhoods. That should have factored into your comment and I assume it did, given we are products of our surroundings and are heavily influenced by our upbringing. It helped to shape who we are today. Your thought on the cure is blurred. You can't cure anything until you know the problem and you can't know the problem unless you study and find the cause. Addressing the cause strikes fear, disdain, hatred, denial and bloodshed. The cause is as common as the common cold. Yet when brought up, the world stops spinning for some. Dr. King said " Violence is the voice of the unheard ". Using this as a guide, learn to pay attention to your ill's. Take care of the needy. We don't live in a country where the village raises the children anymore. Greed rules the day and the game if full of players including............you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testadura Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Wildcat Will said: It is understood that by nature, all humans are bias for some reason or another. The issue is accepting facts wholly. If you feel a certain way about the subject but are unwilling to believe the reason for things being the way they are, you are lying to yourself. i'm not sure what you said. i again was kidding about post-racial--which is an expression that people who have a heavy influence on our language brought into vogue, is my guess. I understand how people feel about each other--and generally it's good per Charles Barkley, contrary to the MSM. I was brought up correctly, and so, even very bad incidents don't sway my views. I was jumped in Bed Stuy (Christmas Eve) and Jersey City coming home from a dance at NYU. Almost jumped in the bathroom watching Craig Heyward v N. Bergen in '83 at Passaic. I lived sandwiched between 3 projects in Bayonne for 18 yrs. I went through K-8 public before going to a Catholic HS. Essentially 2 gang fights in 1 afternoon in E. Orange during and after a football game. I box in a gym that's 95% black and Hispanic. My aunt, uncle, and cousin lived northeast of Fordham (Bronx), and were never let down. My other aunt taught in Jersey City public schools. It took yrs off her life, I suspect. This is a very complicated issue. The Board is tough place to air this out. Sammy owes no one anything. The U.S. nowadays feels like post-WW2 Germany. We knew there was a Holocaust, but every German we questioned liked Jews--we couldn't find any NAZI sympathizers. In France, the whole country was part of The Resistance, no one collaborated with Vichy France. Here, everyone stands ever vigilant, at all times of day and night, dead certain of themselves and their causes, and ready to type away if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testadura Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ararar said: The Trinity hate is real! which seems odd considering they are religious schools….on second thought not so odd you should try to sit in at games played b/w non-religious schools. Cormac McCarthy would say we are a violent bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ararar said: The Trinity hate is real! which seems odd considering they are religious schools….on second thought not so odd You're very astute in reminding me of that fact..... the Christians fight dirty.... Hahaha bgw 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Testadura said: i'm not sure what you said. i again was kidding about post-racial--which is an expression that people who have a heavy influence on our language brought into vogue, is my guess. I understand how people feel about each other--and generally it's good per Charles Barkley, contrary to the MSM. I was brought up correctly, and so, even very bad incidents don't sway my views. I was jumped in Bed Stuy (Christmas Eve) and Jersey City coming home from a dance at NYU. Almost jumped in the bathroom watching Craig Heyward v N. Bergen in '83 at Passaic. I lived sandwiched between 3 projects in Bayonne for 18 yrs. I went through K-8 public before going to a Catholic HS. Essentially 2 gang fights in 1 afternoon in E. Orange during and after a football game. I box in a gym that's 95% black and Hispanic. My aunt, uncle, and cousin lived northeast of Fordham (Bronx), and were never let down. My other aunt taught in Jersey City public schools. It took yrs off her life, I suspect. This is a very complicated issue. The Board is tough place to air this out. Sammy owes no one anything. The U.S. nowadays feels like post-WW2 Germany. We knew there was a Holocaust, but every German we questioned liked Jews--we couldn't find any NAZI sympathizers. In France, the whole country was part of The Resistance, no one collaborated with Vichy France. Here, everyone stands ever vigilant, at all times of day and night, dead certain of themselves and their causes, and ready to type away if needed. How can you kid when that is the main topic of the conversation and descriptive of the behavior of those being discussed? I know. You have no real idea as to what living in oppressive conditions as a people in a country that proclaims all men are created equal, yet that same country considered you 5/8 of a man. How can you decide if what someone said is not offensive to some not thinking like you? You are naive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Testadura said: you should try to sit in at games played b/w non-religious schools. Cormac McCarthy would say we are a violent bunch. Big difference between the subject matter and an actual throwdown.... interesting we share some rough upbringing mine in the projects of El Paso. Knives, and guns before I was 18 years of age, keep in mind I didn't wait around when the disadvantage was apparent. bgw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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