Classless per usual. servite community

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

2 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said:

How can you kid when that is the main topic of the conversation and descriptive of the behavior of thise being discussed?

I know. You have no real idea as to what living in oppressive conditions as a people in a country that proclaims all men are created equal, yet that same country considered you 5/8 of a man. How can you decide if what someone said is not offensive to some not thinking like you? You are naive.

Go easy, that perspective has not been lived by all.

☺️

bgw

[Testadura]

4 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said:

I am taking this one topic at a time. I am 62 next month. Yes we did have different childhoods. That should have factored into your comment and I assume it did, given we are products of our surroundings and are heavily influenced by our upbringing. It helped to shape who we are today.

Your thought on the cure is blurred. You can't cure anything until you know the problem and you can't know the problem unless you study and find the cause. Addressing the cause strikes fear, disdain, hatred, denial and bloodshed.

The cause is as common as the common cold. Yet when brought up, the world stops spinning for some. Dr. King said " Violence is the voice of the unheard ". Using this as a guide, learn to pay attention to your ill's. Take care of the needy. We don't live in a country where the village raises the children anymore. Greed rules the day and the game if full of players including............you.

 

there is racism.  there has been racism.  i think we all know that.  that's not news.  Servite's been Servite for a while.  Despite that, Pres. Obama said repeatedly that America is the place to be.  I don't think you're taking the position that Pres. Obama was unaware of our past and present.

Even Bill Maher has hit a point at which he can't even truck with you.

I give over $30k to charity a year.  you have no idea what kind of "player" i am.  I pay unrelated people's college tuition.  I helped raise, with my firm, over $30k for a family whose daughter drowned this Labor Day weekend.  My wedding had more blacks, gays, and Hispanics that any other wedding except for ones directly involving the marriage of blacks, gays, and Hispanics.  And that is why I don't cower.

N.B.  Reverend King preached equality via a spiritual Democratic Capitalism, not equity.  That's a Socialist concept.  Under that intellectually-constructed monstrosity, very smart people at the top figure things out for us, and then, they prescribe anti-Democratic (and previously-failed) solutions, ones eventually that won't sit well with even you.

 

 

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

So, Cliff Notes version... Servite is classless and racist.

Oh, and Servite is competitive this year.

Oh, Sammy fellates Servite.

Oh, and lastly... Sammy matriculated at "Something Something HS".

bgw

#didntforgetSammy'sTiersthosedon'trateamention

[Testadura]

7 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

Big difference between the subject matter and an actual throwdown.... interesting we share some rough upbringing mine in the projects of El Paso.

Knives, and guns before I was 18 years of age, keep in mind I didn't wait around when  the disadvantage was apparent.

bgw

we fought all the time.  it was nothing.  and everyone knew how to get down.  you either fought and won or lost, or often got worse at home.  if you didn't stand up for yourself you stayed home.  my brother and i were always out and about.  not like today at all

it's a family board

[Wildcat Will]

1 minute ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

Big difference between the subject matter and an actual throwdown.... interesting we share some rough upbringing mine in the projects of El Paso.

Knives, and guns before I was 18 years of age, keep in mind I didn't wait around when  the disadvantage was apparent.

bgw

Exactly. How you deal with it speaks volumes. Growing up a few miles from the home of the Imperial Grand Wizard was just one issue for me. That was separate from the hood issues themselves. Armed at 11 yet holding to moms locked door rule at 9. 

[Testadura]

2 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

So, Cliff Notes version... Servite is classless and racist.

Oh, and Servite is competitive this year.

Oh, Sammy fellates Servite.

Oh, and lastly... Sammy matriculated at "Something Something HS".

bgw

#didntforgetSammy'sTiersthosedon'trateamention

exactly.  and after we fix servite, we'll work on Snyder HS in Jersey City, and so on and so forth.  and Sammy is not the Lamb of God.

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

1 minute ago, Wildcat Will said:

Exactly. How you deal with it speaks volumes. Growing up a few miles from the home of the Imperial Grand Wizard was just one issue for me. That was separate from the hood issues themselves. Armed at 11 yet holding to moms locked door rule at 9. 

Wow....that's intense.

bgw

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

Just now, Testadura said:

exactly.  and after we fix servite, we'll work on Snyder HS in Jersey City, and so on and so forth.  and Sammy is not the Lamb of God.

Wasn't the point... carry on.

bgw

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

4 minutes ago, Testadura said:

exactly.  and after we fix servite, we'll work on Snyder HS in Jersey City, and so on and so forth.  and Sammy is not the Lamb of God.

On second thought... The Comish and Consuela disagree.

bgw

[Wildcat Will]

13 minutes ago, Testadura said:

we fought all the time.  it was nothing.  and everyone knew how to get down.  you either fought and won or lost, or often got worse at home.  if you didn't stand up for yourself you stayed home.  my brother and i were always out and about.  not like today at all

it's a family board

I grew up in a village as far as being raised the right way. Not a lot of fighting but you needed some heat. There was no telling when you are going to need it. Fighting was mainly to settle at the moment differences. Fight today, smoke together next week. Don' like them, make their family wear black.

[maxchoboian]

Embarrassing for any school. The school sent out an apology. To say a coach or a school or other posters condone the behavior of the students is childish and ridiculous.

[Wildcat Will]

22 minutes ago, Testadura said:

there is racism.  there has been racism.  i think we all know that.  that's not news.  Servite's been Servite for a while.  Despite that, Pres. Obama said repeatedly that America is the place to be.  I don't think you're taking the position that Pres. Obama was unaware of our past and present.

Even Bill Maher has hit a point at which he can't even truck with you.

I give over $30k to charity a year.  you have no idea what kind of "player" i am.  I pay unrelated people's college tuition.  I helped raise, with my firm, over $30k for a family whose daughter drowned this Labor Day weekend.  My wedding had more blacks, gays, and Hispanics that any other wedding except for ones directly involving the marriage of blacks, gays, and Hispanics.  And that is why I don't cower.

N.B.  Reverend King preached equality via a spiritual Democratic Capitalism, not equity.  That's a Socialist concept.  Under that intellectually-constructed monstrosity, very smart people at the top figure things out for us, and then, they prescribe anti-Democratic (and previously-failed) solutions, ones eventually that won't sit well with even you.

 

 

Your actions are applauded but that has nothing to do with the facts here.

You have your interpretation of what Dr. King spoke and it shall remain yours. We all have our opinion of what we perceive as to what was the true intention of the original speaker. 

There is a difference between being smart and being wise

Knowledge without application will never become wisdom.

[HawgGoneIt]

16 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

Wasn't the point... carry on.

bgw

Birds of a feather and all. If you catch my drift. 

[Testadura]

5 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said:

Your action are applauded but that has nothing to do with the facts here.

You have your interpretation of what Dr. King spoke and it shall remain yours. We all have our opinion of what we perceive as to what was the true intention of the original speaker. 

There is a difference between being smart and being wise

Knowledge without application will never become wisdom.

you:  "Take care of the needy. We don't live in a country where the village raises the children anymore.  [I've been around families that primarily raise their kids, with moral and cultural institutions helping out.]  Greed rules the day and the game i[s] full of players including............you."  Hence, my response to your insulting assumption.  I couldn't say anything truthful that was more on point.

I don't think we disagree on what Rev. King said, or his intentions--what he said and meant aren't too disputed in the main.  He was a "civil-rights" activist and a Christian Minister whose religious beliefs heavily informed his political stances.  Civil rights have to do with equality, not equity.  That's not debatable.  Equity is an arguable rejection of much of what Rev. King stood for--equality of opportunity.  

Smart and wise.  Agree.  I take it you think you're wise.  Wisdom, I agree, focuses more on practicality and experimentation, and not theory.  I'm not as wise as you believe you are.  Hubris, my friend.  Take a stroll thru the Ancients to give yourself a checkup.  You are wise?  OK.  it's good to be you.  Tell me how well your wisdom is doing in serving "the needy."

[HawgGoneIt]

Are there any black teachers at Servite? 

[Testadura]

14 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

Are there any black teachers at Servite? 

i'm checking.

according to private-school review, 39% are people of color.  20% get financial aid.  The 4 public HSs in Pasadena look pretty bad.  I don't see them as an option.  Servite is ranked 3, with MD at 2, for Orange Cty privates or Catholics.

your board didn't exist at this time.  several yrs ago when PC was good, they claimed that BC was slurring them during a game.  State investigation.  Refs heard nothing.  No coach, but for 1, heard anything.  PC's principal said he heard nothing.  No real findings, as I recall, but new conduct code for all schools instituted.

I wondered whether BC had any black kids.  They did.  I saw black kids in the stands.  I saw black parents.  I saw black kids on the field supposedly when the slurs were made.  In fact, a PC transfer to BC, who was black, said it was all bullsh!t, and that if anyone had been going to slur it would have been his former friends at PC. 

So, your questions are well-placed, but the answers might be yes as to students and teachers.  Except here, Servite admitted an apologized.

[Wildcat Will]

2 minutes ago, Testadura said:

you:  "Take care of the needy. We don't live in a country where the village raises the children anymore.  [I've been around families that primarily raise their kids, with moral and cultural institutions helping out.]  Greed rules the day and the game i[s] full of players including............you."  Hence, my response to your insulting assumption.  I couldn't say anything truthful that was more on point.

I don't think we disagree on what Rev. King said, or his intentions--what he said and meant aren't too disputed in the main.  He was a "civil-rights" activist and a Christian Minister whose religious beliefs heavily informed his political stances.  Civil rights have to do with equality, not equity.  That's not debatable.  Equity is an arguable rejection of much of what Rev. King stood for--equality of opportunity.  

Smart and wise.  Agree.  I take it you think you're wise.  Wisdom, I agree, focuses more on practicality and experimentation, and not theory.  I'm not as wise as you believe you are.  Hubris, my friend.  Take a stroll thru the Ancients to give yourself a checkup.  You are wise?  OK.  it's good to be you.  Tell me how well your wisdom is doing in serving "the needy."

The definition of the two words are intertwined. Equality means each individual or group is given the same resources or opportunity. Equity means to recognize that each person or group has different circumstances and for those resources and opportunities needed to reach an equal outcome. I think Dr. King knew this and was working towards it. This is the wise position to take in regards to examining the situation being discussed.

As far as me thinking I am wise, you would be correct. I think I am. I take in and formulate. Being wise means not discarding any info. Theory is included due to the fact that it brings info. By no means though do I know it all or, in my opinion ...enough. I stay grounded by the grace of GOD. Simply using what he gave me.

I serve by doing. Always have. Started at 10 with my first walk for March of Dimes. Giving of one's self if the most a person can do and so often means more than any monetary gift ever could. Being the person that I am allows me to be a positive amongst those in my social circles, including the schools in my county.

State of mind or disposition if you will, is a key to being wise. 

 

[Testadura]

48 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

Wasn't the point... carry on.

bgw

i get your point.  The whole thread is absurd.  Max nailed it--Sammy owes nothing to no one--that's the point. 

Under the Sammy logic, white southerners would be dragging plows for the next century, and picking cotton with their delicate-little Sally Fields fingers.  No friggin' Grand Wizard lived near me--the parents and grandparents of the Southern hicks on this Board should have had the stones to have done something about it--racist cowards, even Mark Twain described them so.  My dad and the other Hudson Cty men and New Yorkers would bring blacks from Ft. Benning Ga (Korean War) with them to segregated bars while on leave from basic training just to excite the red necks and beat them down.  The hicks weren't the best fighters, from what I understand.

As to Star & Bars, my Dad's comment, "I didn't fight for that flag," told me all I needed to know,  Now, the South has risen again to give lectures on racism and debts owed.  F___ off.  Is this really occurring?  I think we can handle it from here without redneck wisdom experientially derived from that peculiar institution.

[maxchoboian]

14 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

Are there any black teachers at Servite? 

Two catholic schools, Servite and Mater Dei, formed to provide an education for young people whose parents like the idea of the religious element they include on top of the standard courses of study.

My guess is that if you look at the faculties and student bodies at each, minus the athletes, you will see similar makeups at both schools. Not to say all the athletes at these schools are there primarily for sports, but the high profile sports now have significantly more diverse, non-catholic rosters than what makes up the non-athlete student bodies. And when the athletes are not considered, the schools will look like they did 30 years ago for the most part. 

[Wildcat Will]

24 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

Are there any black teachers at Servite? 

Watching highlights now of Servite and it appears they have a few black players, very few but the majority are hispanic.

Can't believe that guy with the tiers has them tier 2.

[Wildcat Will]

2 minutes ago, Testadura said:

i get your point.  The whole thread is absurd.  Max nailed it--Sammy owes nothing to no one--that's the point. 

Under the Sammy logic, white southerners would be dragging plows for the next century, and picking cotton with their delicate-little Sally Fields fingers.  No friggin' Grand Wizard lived near me--the parents and grandparents of the Southern hicks on this Board should have had the stones to have done something about it--racist cowards, even Mark Twain described them so.  My dad and the other Hudson Cty men and New Yorkers would bring blacks from Ft. Benning Ga (Korean War) with them to segregated bars while on leave from basic training just to excite the red necks and beat them down.  The hicks weren't the best fighters, from what I understand.

As to Star & Bars, my Dad's comment, "I didn't fight for that flag," told me all I needed to know,  Now, the South has risen again to give lectures on racism and debts owed.  F___ off.  Is this really occurring?  I think we can handle it from here without redneck wisdom experientially derived from that peculiar institution.

Different childhoods.

Remember?

You are naive if you think this stuff is not still alive and kicking.

 

[Testadura]

4 minutes ago, maxchoboian said:

Two catholic schools, Servite and Mater Dei, formed to provide an education for young people whose parents like the idea of the religious element they include on top of the standard courses of study.

My guess is that if you look at the faculties and student bodies at each, minus the athletes, you will see similar makeups at both schools. Not to say all the athletes at these schools are there primarily for sports, but the high profile sports now have significantly more diverse, non-catholic rosters than what makes up the non-athlete student bodies. And when the athletes are not considered, the schools will look like they did 30 years ago for the most part. 

sounds good.  39% of Servite supposedly is black, Hispanic, and Asian.  i have to imagine that some of that 39% was in the cheering section.  at a football game when the team's good???  yes

[frankyjames]

1 hour ago, HawgGoneIt said:

more about the recent incident and obvious culture issue they have in their current student body. 

Bingo. 

[Testadura]

5 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said:

Watching highlights now of Servite and it appears they have a few black players, very few but the majority are hispanic.

Can't believe that guy with the tiers has them tier 2.

thx.  i was starting to say what you just said, but didn't have your player info.  i should have looked at the roster.  of course Servite is diverse.

but unlike BC-PC, there's an admission & apology.  so, we know something racist happened.  

[Ga96]

4 hours ago, Testadura said:

he owes you no explanation

I'm calling St Peter's Prep today.  while my 15-yr-old daughter was cheering this Friday, 2 black JV players on SPP's sidelines called my daughter and her friend n!ggas.  my daughter and her friend are white.  The cheer team has 3 blacks on it, and they weren't in the vicinity.  My wife brought 3 black friends to the game to see my daughter.  My daughter's best friend is black.  Her Godparents are black.

I demand an explanation.  I want a public apology.  how could this happen in post-racial America?  were they supremacists in disguise?  Probably unvaccinated.  

little fragile ... people.  those JV players are kids.  they'll learn--hopefully.  it's not the first time, but SPP is a great school.  move on with our meaningful lives

You are going to be highly disappointed if you think you are getting anything. You should educate yourself more especially before throwing out words just because another race used it.