BOMBSHELL: Mater Dei Hazing Scandal

[res ipsa loquitur]

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[res ipsa loquitur]

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[RedZone]

1 hour ago, Bodysurf said:

I have always said from Day 1 that it was unacceptable and whoever gave instruction to withhold immediate medical attention needs to be fired. 

The only person that has been fired was the AD.......Do you really see additional firings happening?...if so, when exactly?

[Bodysurf]

19 minutes ago, RedZone said:

The only person that has been fired was the AD.......Do you really see additional firings happening?...if so, when exactly?

Amanda Waters was not officially fired. I think she realized she had become persona non grata and resigned. I can’t say whether anybody will get fired and I won’t speculate. I prefer to let the legal proceedings run their course, gather the facts, and then pass judgement and dish out appropriate punishment if it indeed comes to that. If somebody at MD deserves to be fired, so be it. 

[Cossacks]

Shit happens everyday with kids. And hazing happens at many schools. I wouldn’t expect every coach or adult to be able to prevent everything. It’s not that an event happened is what is necessarily an issue for me. It’s what happened after and how was it handled (especially initially). Or if there is a pattern (has to be somewhat recent, not some shit from 1991 or way back). 

The fact that no charges were not filed is not shocking and doesn’t necessarily mean to much to me one way or the other. I have not seen the video. Obviously the DA felt they could not PBRD and if I recall the CALCRIM for 243.2 PC-Battery on school ground leaves a lot of leeway for self defense and a school yard fight (mural combat) is a hard case to get a conviction on when you are going to have to show that both didn’t willingly participate. 

I have zero fight in this. Two sides to every story and somewhere in the middle is the truth. It would just be disappointing to hear that this played out fully as portrayed by some on the internet.
 

 

[RedZone]

17 minutes ago, Cossacks said:

Shit happens everyday with kids. And hazing happens at many schools. I wouldn’t expect every coach or adult to be able to prevent everything. It’s not that an event happened is what is necessarily an issue for me. It’s what happened after and how was it handled (especially initially). Or if there is a pattern (has to be somewhat recent, not some shit from 1991 or way back). 

The fact that no charges were not filed is not shocking and doesn’t necessarily mean to much to me one way or the other. I have not seen the video. Obviously the DA felt they could not PBRD and if I recall the CALCRIM for 243.2 PC-Battery on school ground leaves a lot of leeway for self defense and a school yard fight (mural combat) is a hard case to get a conviction on when you are going to have to show that both didn’t willingly participate. 

I have zero fight in this. Two sides to every story and somewhere in the middle is the truth. It would just be disappointing to hear that this played out fully as portrayed by some on the internet.
 

 

mater dei's long history with cover ups and not admitting the truth led people to where they wanted to go. After them!

If this happened at a different school with a much better track record and reputation it's probably handled totally different.

There's no doubt in my mind though a kid was abused in some fashion. They can call it whatever they want to call it. Mistakes were made and I'm almost certain nothing will ever become of it.

Maybe the complete truth comes out in 10 to 15 years and is made into a movie 

 

 

[RedZone]

13 minutes ago, RedZone said:

mater dei's long history with cover ups and not admitting the truth led people to where they wanted to go. After them!

If this happened at a different school with a much better track record and reputation it's probably handled totally different.

There's no doubt in my mind though a kid was abused in some fashion. They can call it whatever they want to call it. Mistakes were made and I'm almost certain nothing will ever become of it.

Maybe the complete truth comes out in 10 to 15 years and is made into a movie 

 

 

And the ONE guy they really needed to full court press on they didn't even talk to him to my understanding..... And most likely will never talk to him. 

I just don't know how that is possible.

Oh well, is what it is.

 

[The Colonel]

4 hours ago, res ipsa loquitur said:

I do not know what the security footage shows re security personnel. But, why would anyone escort someone less than 100 ft if they come out of a locker with injuries that are not nearly as significant as originally described (again plaintiff has not seen a Dr for his initiates since 14 days after they happen) and not noticeable unless one looked right at him? As he was jogging up to the trainer, someone should have jumped out and grabbed him to escort him?

That scenario only makes sense if he was actually stumbling and super injured—as originally claimed. The video and medical records show that’s not true.

 

 

 

Bleeding face and broken nose which required surgery, but the security team hired to watch over a handful of football players is nowhere to be seen?  That is the scenario that doesn’t make sense to me. 

[SoCalFball]

Looks like we have some new allegations of a different crime that took place on campus once again. Lack of institutional control going on in Santa Ana. When is someone gonna step up. 

Mater Dei football players allegedly sexually assaulted

[Slotback Right]

1 hour ago, RedZone said:

mater dei's long history with cover ups and not admitting the truth led people to where they wanted to go. After them!

If this happened at a different school with a much better track record and reputation it's probably handled totally different.

There's no doubt in my mind though a kid was abused in some fashion. They can call it whatever they want to call it. Mistakes were made and I'm almost certain nothing will ever become of it.

Maybe the complete truth comes out in 10 to 15 years and is made into a movie 

 

 

Well...there's another story breaking today. Should we start another thread?

Mater Dei football players allegedly sexually assaulted teammate, police record says

In a locker room at Mater Dei High School in Santa Ana, several football players forced a teammate to the floor and exposed their genitals. Then they held him down, as one player “began humping” him from behind, through his pants.

The incident happened in late August, according to a Santa Ana Police Department document, two weeks after the student started school at Mater Dei, home to one of the country’s most celebrated high school football programs. He wasn’t physically hurt, but the episode left him suffering from anxiety, police said in the document. He left Mater Dei shortly afterward.

The document, which The Times obtained through a public records request, is a single-page, eight-sentence description of the alleged assault that the Police Department entered into its computer system Sept. 16. The document does not address whether the Aug. 31 claim of sexual assault was investigated, or whether students, school officials or family members contacted police.

The document said the incident was reported to the student’s coach, who informed “school officials,” but did not specify when. The police received secondhand information about the incident from social services, the document said.

The allegation of sexual assault, which has not been previously reported, raises questions about Mater Dei’s stated commitment to student safety and transparency in its storied athletics program. It also highlights concerns about the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange’s standards of behavior and sportsmanship for its athletes, many of whom are closely watched by college scouts.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-09/mater-dei-football-alleged-sexual-assault-police-record

[RedZone]

26 minutes ago, Slotback Right said:

Well...there's another story breaking today. Should we start another thread?

Mater Dei football players allegedly sexually assaulted teammate, police record says

In a locker room at Mater Dei High School in Santa Ana, several football players forced a teammate to the floor and exposed their genitals. Then they held him down, as one player “began humping” him from behind, through his pants.

The incident happened in late August, according to a Santa Ana Police Department document, two weeks after the student started school at Mater Dei, home to one of the country’s most celebrated high school football programs. He wasn’t physically hurt, but the episode left him suffering from anxiety, police said in the document. He left Mater Dei shortly afterward.

The document, which The Times obtained through a public records request, is a single-page, eight-sentence description of the alleged assault that the Police Department entered into its computer system Sept. 16. The document does not address whether the Aug. 31 claim of sexual assault was investigated, or whether students, school officials or family members contacted police.

The document said the incident was reported to the student’s coach, who informed “school officials,” but did not specify when. The police received secondhand information about the incident from social services, the document said.

The allegation of sexual assault, which has not been previously reported, raises questions about Mater Dei’s stated commitment to student safety and transparency in its storied athletics program. It also highlights concerns about the Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange’s standards of behavior and sportsmanship for its athletes, many of whom are closely watched by college scouts.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-09/mater-dei-football-alleged-sexual-assault-police-record

What is someone 2000 miles away (me) suppose to think?..... This all just reinforces what I've always read.

Social Services?....not good.

That place is going to explode soon.

 

 

[maxchoboian]

Seems like the private security they felt they needed should start looking beyond potential vandalization of the sinks in the locker room. Maybe someone might suggest they also look at the kids humping the other kid on the floor.

Is the "security" they've hired in any way related to others at MD, or just inept?

  

[OldTerrapin]

Mater Gei High

 

Mater Dei Dryhumpers

 

[RedZone]

5 hours ago, OldTerrapin said:

Mater Gei High

 

Mater Dei Dryhumpers

 

If there was ever a day for a "dumb fight" at mater dei that would have been the day.

I'm not trying to play Mr. Tough Guy, but I'm swinging at somebody and often win or lose. I don't think I would like that too much and they would know it too.

Some of this stuff is just hard on the eyes.

 

[HawgGoneIt]

So this likely also falls into the "hazing" category too I'd guess. Silly stuff, but, kids do silly stuff. 

If it's not "bodies" it's the good ol' dry hump while the rest of the "gang" whips their dicks out and laughs or whatever they do. 

No culture of hazing there though. That complaint is effectively dead in legal terms apparently. 

Again, kids do shit like that if you let them. They'll do shit like that behind your back after you tell them not to also. It does seem like there is definitely some hazing going on there. Maybe even a "culture" of it, with different groups of kids hazing others in different ways. 

 

[RedZone]

18 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

So this likely also falls into the "hazing" category too I'd guess. Silly stuff, but, kids do silly stuff. 

If it's not "bodies" it's the good ol' dry hump while the rest of the "gang" whips their dicks out and laughs or whatever they do. 

No culture of hazing there though. That complaint is effectively dead in legal terms apparently. 

Again, kids do shit like that if you let them. They'll do shit like that behind your back after you tell them not to also. It does seem like there is definitely some hazing going on there. Maybe even a "culture" of it, with different groups of kids hazing others in different ways. 

 

mater dei better start doing some background checks on all these transfers and their families that they bring in and have brought in from everywhere. 

A 4* or 5* 247sports rating is not a background check. 

My best opinion is they are not controlling the situation very well at all.

 

 

 

[RedZone]

15 minutes ago, RedZone said:

mater dei better start doing some background checks on all these transfers and their families that they bring in and have brought in from everywhere. 

A 4* or 5* 247sports rating is not a background check. 

My best opinion is they are not controlling the situation very well at all.

 

 

 

My vision of the admissions process star mater dei transfer football players go through

 There really is an admissions process!

I'm sure this probably happens a lot of places, but mater dei better get a grip on it and soon. They are not handling it very well at all.

[HawgGoneIt]

1 hour ago, RedZone said:

mater dei better start doing some background checks on all these transfers and their families that they bring in and have brought in from everywhere. 

A 4* or 5* 247sports rating is not a background check. 

My best opinion is they are not controlling the situation very well at all.

 

 

 

It happens. One bad seed kind of thing can start it. Colquitt had the Grump Jones thing where several past players had a little "gang" and they eventually shot a guy and he died. 

Grump wasn't a transfer though. Neither were the graduated kids that were in the deal with him. 

That was a culture thing also. It was the kind of thing that festered, and, the coaches kind of know, but, don't wanna know, so they don't dig, because that's your star rb and has all these eyes on him and the program. 

I don't know of or think Colquitt has any hazing rituals at the school, but, things can go on away from the school too. As did that little gang thing. If it's going on at the school, that's a big ass problem that needs addressed straight away. 

Can't really control that away from the school stuff, but, if you "kind of know" that bullshit is going on, better start getting control of it. 

This Mater Dei stuff apparently is going on at the school. They even have security hired which seems kind of wild too. Around Colquitt, there's enough faculty and staff around the athletic dept. that no private security is necessary. It is a public school with a couple of resource officers stationed at the school though. 

[RedZone]

19 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

It happens. One bad seed kind of thing can start it. Colquitt had the Grump Jones thing where several past players had a little "gang" and they eventually shot a guy and he died. 

Grump wasn't a transfer though. Neither were the graduated kids that were in the deal with him. 

That was a culture thing also. It was the kind of thing that festered, and, the coaches kind of know, but, don't wanna know, so they don't dig, because that's your star rb and has all these eyes on him and the program. 

I don't know of or think Colquitt has any hazing rituals at the school, but, things can go on away from the school too. As did that little gang thing. If it's going on at the school, that's a big ass problem that needs addressed straight away. 

Can't really control that away from the school stuff, but, if you "kind of know" that bullshit is going on, better start getting control of it. 

This Mater Dei stuff apparently is going on at the school. They even have security hired which seems kind of wild too. Around Colquitt, there's enough faculty and staff around the athletic dept. that no private security is necessary. It is a public school with a couple of resource officers stationed at the school though. 

...mater dei head football coach riolio was quoted as saying " I don't have time to deal with this shit', and "if I had a dollar for every time a kid got humped in the locker room I'd be a millionaire".

.... Two days later he's seen breaking bread with sleazy joe from pgl.....😃

[Ga96]

Like I said happening one after another. This is the mater dump culture. Just think of what doesn't get told.

[Ga96]

 

some sick people over there.

[Ga96]

 

 

[Ga96]

 

 

[Ga96]

The penn state of high school/prep academy's

[Norcalnut]

43 minutes ago, Ga96 said:

The penn state of high school/prep academy's

If they prosecute someone from MD for molesting 100 boys then you could compare them to Penn State. Until then your just being an insensitive asshole to the young boys who had to endure such atrocities. Try to be better!!!