PlayTheGame Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, On2whls said: Or, it could turn out to be a big fat nothing burger. People will remember the championships while the scandal wilts away. The Orange County District Attorney’s Office does not intend to file charges in the case and views the altercation as mutual combat. Teach your kids to just say no and you don't consent. Refusing to Play some dumb pain tolerance game doesn't make you weak. Imo, being peer pressured and bullied to do something you don't want to do makes you look weak. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, HurricaneNick said: My problem is with the claim that the trainer was told to not to contact the parents/paramedic. *IF* true, that administrator needs to be gone tomorrow. It's alleged that not only was there an issue with contacting paramedics and parents, but the cut and bleeding kid was not treated by the trainer until after other player's ankles were taped. If that's true, it's too bad -- and indicative of the football team culture --, and changes need to be made immediately. But allegations aren't automatically proof that certain things happened. We'll see. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: It's alleged that not only was there an issue with contacting paramedics and parents, but the cut and bleeding kid was not treated by the trainer until after other player's ankles were taped. If that's true, it's too bad -- and indicative of the football team culture --, and changes need to be made immediately. But allegations aren't automatically proof that certain things happened. We'll see. Exactly how I feel. Grown adults ignored a kids bloody face to tape ankles? Not buying it, but IF true, fire everybody. Atrocious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecupatsfan12 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 WOW This is bad. If this is legitimate the whole staff is going to be released. I doubt Roll had any clue what happened until later but there’s no way he survives this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Ga96 said: From Catholic to illuminati and you covering it up like the pope and his priest. Yall are some twisted people at mater dump. I feel sorry for the kids that transferred into this situation. Not knowing they were putting themselves in harms way. Let me help you out with what you should say. "This is unfortunate to even hear about and I hope it isn't true, but looking at the article and the seriousness of the situation if true all those responsible should be held to the full extent of the law" Lol I know u ain’t talking about covering shit up, ur school literally deleted security footage of a murder in ur Gym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 Has mater dei released an official statement at any point during this monstrous scandal/cover-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 LOL. Now they'll close ranks, focus, and blow out Servite by 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 hours ago, maxchoboian said: But allegations aren't automatically proof that certain things happened. It's hard to fake brain damage......it came from somewhere. The extent of the brain damage is something we don't know yet, but will eventually find out when mater dei goes to court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 I remember a story about racism at Servite dropping before one of their games and now all of a sudden a story about Mater Dei drops before their game. Turn about is fair play I reckon. We can all feel the Trinity League love. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 minute ago, HawgGoneIt said: I remember a story about racism at Servite dropping before one of their games and now all of a sudden a story about Mater Dei drops before their game. Turn about is fair play I reckon. We can all feel the Trinity League love. Grayson accused Bergen catholic of being Racists that story lasted about 4 hours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Grayson accused Bergen catholic of being Racists that story lasted about 4 hours Yeah. Some stories have legs though. Apparently this one has been around for several months but just gets broken nationally right before the big game. Some big accusations in this one. Not some kids chanting racial slurs or a player from one team calling a player from another team a slur. This one is about a culture of violence and cover-up simmering for months already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: I remember a story about racism at Servite dropping before one of their games and now all of a sudden a story about Mater Dei drops before their game. Turn about is fair play I reckon. We can all feel the Trinity League love. Trash humans hiding behind the guise of a religion. Its even worse when you can search mater dei or trinity league sued and you see a whole list of lawsuits and all mention the schools of covering up stuff and having to reach settlements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 22 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Grayson accused Bergen catholic of being Racists that story lasted about 4 hours Well if they are like you then they were right in their accusations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ga96 said: Trash humans hiding behind the guise of a religion. Its even worse when you can search mater dei or trinity league sued and you see a whole list of lawsuits and all mention the schools of covering up stuff and having to reach settlements. How many homicide lawsuits Lowndass administration has against them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Yeah. Some stories have legs though. This scandal may be larger than the bishop sycamore scandal...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Extremely Humble said: Really wish the article would have said concussion if that’s the case. “Brain injury” is not something to play around with. This was in the opening post of the news report: Player 1’s father took him to an urgent care facility later that night and to a pediatrician the following day. In addition to the three cuts around the eyes, Player 1 suffered a concussion, eyes swollen, slurred speech and a fracture left nasal passage – a broken nose, according to the pediatrician’s report on the exam.He underwent surgery at Children’s Hospital of Orange County on Feb. 10. According to the operation report, “patient is a 16-year-old boy male with a history of assault by a fellow football teammate six days prior in which he sustained multiple bodily injuries including a displaced comminuted nasal fracture as well as multiple soft tissue issue.”Doctors “confirmed a displaced nasal fracture with evidence of comminuted fracture of the nasal bones on CT scan performed on 2/5/2021.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 8 hours ago, RedZone said: What about the kid with the brain damage?....how's he doing? Right, you don't give a shit! Thanks for asking RedZone. The injured student, identified in this report as Player 1, eventually withdrew from Mater Dei and continues to have issues related to his brain injury, according to records and interviews. The injured player was actually suspended by Mater Dei according to the report. Talk about adding insult to injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecupatsfan12 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 Yikes. Rollo is done SJB is shaking in their boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 The football staff (and the school administrators) should be fired for covering this up, and especially disturbing to me, is the fact that the trainers at first wouldn't treat him, and botched it when they finally did. The Santa Ana police have the video, and they recommended filing charges against player 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, Slotback Right said: The injured player was actually suspended by Mater Dei according to the report. Talk about adding insult to injury. Good grief...for what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 minute ago, RedZone said: Good grief...for what? For getting knocked out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, RedZone said: It's hard to fake brain damage......it came from somewhere. The extent of the brain damage is something we don't know yet, but will eventually find out when mater dei goes to court. I'm not questioning whether or not someone was injured...it seems they have video proof of the hazing/altercation. I'm curious if the report of how it was handled is accurate (did the trainer really ignore treating a cut and bloodied kid until after other players had their daily ankle wraps completed, and then nonchalantly delay contacting paramedics and parents?). If accurate, there appears to be a culture of hazing that is commonplace, and pressure to not "snitch" about it. Fuck both those things. Hazing is ridiculous, and keeping quiet based on fear of retaliation for snitching is just as fucked up of a situation. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: I'm curious if the report of how it was handled is accurate Well, we have evidence the mater dei HC has lied at least once.....and, he's really not addressed any of it that I have seen/read, nor has the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTerrapin Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 This all just gives fuel for the anti football crowd and how football creates a bad culture in the schools for antisocial and unacceptable behavior. Not to mention schools that have mercenary students who's only existence in the school is to play football or otherwise they would not be there. These students tend to think they are above the rules and are doing the school a favor for being there. It's quite the interesting dynamic for High School. It became acceptable in the Universities due to the big money involved not sure what the high schools gain for breaking/bending rules or traditions for gridiron glory. Typically when the football programs starts to overpower the school it implodes and then the schools cut back and make changes to scale back the program. We will see what happens in the Trinity League over time. Will it do like MIAA and others or continue on this path of an arms race ending in self destruction in the name of some fake national glory or will they go back to their stated mission as a school and league? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 33 minutes ago, OldTerrapin said: This all just gives fuel for the anti football crowd and how football creates a bad culture in the schools for antisocial and unacceptable behavior. Not to mention schools that have mercenary students who's only existence in the school is to play football or otherwise they would not be there. These students tend to think they are above the rules and are doing the school a favor for being there. It's quite the interesting dynamic for High School. It became acceptable in the Universities due to the big money involved not sure what the high schools gain for breaking/bending rules or traditions for gridiron glory. Typically when the football programs starts to overpower the school it implodes and then the schools cut back and make changes to scale back the program. We will see what happens in the Trinity League over time. Will it do like MIAA and others or continue on this path of an arms race ending in self destruction in the name of some fake national glory or will they go back to their stated mission as a school and league? This is exactly what brought down the most dominant program in Colorado history. A catholic school able to attract kids from the entire Denver metropolitan area, with an extremely well-connected coach who parents wanted their athlete children to be associated with, until stories of bullying and preferential treatment by and toward football players began to consistently arise. Then parents began to realize the football team was not comprised of anywhere close to the percentage of catholic kids as compared to the rest of the student body. The kids were there to play football. Catholic school, not constrained by student geographical boundaries public schools had to abide by, became synonomous with football dominance rather than academic college-prep and adolescent development, enjoyed a good run of unparalleled success on the field. Then the rest of the parents and the administration came forward and said there were many more important principles they wanted to be known for than the success of a football team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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