Georgia region 1-7A used to be known for defense

[67packer]

Now it's known for the lack of. You need a computer to add up all the points scored in the playoff games region 1 got bounced in.

I guess the good side of my football season is I haven't had to turn down any hunting opportunities to watch HS football.

As an aside; I'm not really enjoying basketball season either.

 

[HawgGoneIt]

It was definitely a down year for defenses in region 1. Kind of funny how Colquitt looked so good defensively against all those roody poohs and then got hurt against everyone with a pulse. 

[Rufus69]

14 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

It was definitely a down year for defenses in region 1. Kind of funny how Colquitt looked so good defensively against all those roody poohs and then got hurt against everyone with a pulse. 

Well now...I know what you're saying...BUT....

Colquitt played 8 non-region games this year.  And 6 of those were...playoff teams.  And 2 outa those 6 are still playing in the Semi-Finals.

I do agree about the Packer defense.

I just don't know about the "roody poohs".

 

 

Rufus>>

[HawgGoneIt]

20 minutes ago, Rufus69 said:

Well now...I know what you're saying...BUT....

Colquitt played 8 non-region games this year.  And 6 of those were...playoff teams.  And 2 outa those 6 are still playing in the Semi-Finals.

I do agree about the Packer defense.

I just don't know about the "roody poohs".

 

 

Rufus>>

They're roody poohs and did little to make us better vs. Lowndes, Camden and Walton defensively. 

 

 

 

[Rufus69]

8 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

They're roody poohs and did little to make us better vs. Lowndes, Camden and Walton defensively. 

 

 

 

Hey...we can disagree.

I'll just remove you from the will......

 

 

Rufus>>

[HawgGoneIt]

1 hour ago, Rufus69 said:

Hey...we can disagree.

I'll just remove you from the will......

 

 

Rufus>>

Those teams may be good in their respective classes, but, in the grand scheme of where we've been over the past 15 years, playing so many of those type games simply isn't preparing us for who we play when it matters. 

[Rufus69]

1 hour ago, HawgGoneIt said:

Those teams may be good in their respective classes, but, in the grand scheme of where we've been over the past 15 years, playing so many of those type games simply isn't preparing us for who we play when it matters. 

Amigo...I'll just tell you how I feel...

You can replace...Marietta, Westlake, Cedar Grove, Alcovy and Northside with ANY 5 teams you want for this year...and under our current S&C and our current flag football practices...it wouldn't have helped us in any way shape or form playing against Lowndes, Camden or Walton.

It wasn't the schedule.

Now THERE'S you some Gospel...

 

 

Rufus>>

[HawgGoneIt]

3 hours ago, Rufus69 said:

Amigo...I'll just tell you how I feel...

You can replace...Marietta, Westlake, Cedar Grove, Alcovy and Northside with ANY 5 teams you want for this year...and under our current S&C and our current flag football practices...it wouldn't have helped us in any way shape or form playing against Lowndes, Camden or Walton.

It wasn't the schedule.

Now THERE'S you some Gospel...

 

 

Rufus>>

I agree with the flag football practices, but, I count the preregion games as practices too. We really weren't able to see how bad we were defensively at tackling and on special teams until we were in the fire. Had we seen the fire all season maybe we (the coaches) get an understanding more of where we needed work instead of dancing around like clowns during our routs of those smaller class teams. 

But yeah, I totally agree our strength and conditioning is way down, and before Justin got here I had never really seen a practice like these we have now. 

[Ga96]

Lowndes worst loss since 1981. Idk about yall nut that's a 🔥 offense.

Already contacted Dubose yesterday. Told him to get rid of the entire defensive staff except for the d line coach. Also needed to get rid of the offensive line coach. 

Ive been seeing these holes at Lowndes its been 5+ years its just come to a head now.

[Sammyswordsman]

3 hours ago, 67packer said:

Now it's known for the lack of. You need a computer to add up all the points scored in the playoff games region 1 got bounced in.

I guess the good side of my football season is I haven't had to turn down any hunting opportunities to watch HS football.

As an aside; I'm not really enjoying basketball season either.

 

Possibly the Ga offenses have come out of the Stone Age and are taking advantage of the rule changes that favor more of a west coast offense 

[Ga96]

18 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said:

I agree with the flag foorball practices, but, I count the preregion games as practices too. We really weren't able to see how bad we were defensively at tackling and on special teams until we were in the fire. Had we seen the fire all season maybe we (the coaches) get an understanding more of where we needed work instead of dancing around like clowns during our routs of those smaller class teams. 

But yeah, I totally agree our strength and conditioning is way down, and before Justin got here I had never really seen a practice like these we have now. 

Maybe we can pull the metro scheme and send all the D1 players to 1 school every year.

[Rufus69]

45 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

Possibly the Ga offenses have come out of the Stone Age and are taking advantage of the rule changes that favor more of a west coast offense 

And West Coast National Championships.

As Clemson and Alabama will tell you....you damn well better play defense.

 

 

Rufus>>

[Ga96]

1 hour ago, Rufus69 said:

And West Coast National Championships.

As Clemson and Alabama will tell you....you damn well better play defense.

 

 

Rufus>>

How you left your dawgs out of this statement?

[67packer]

17 hours ago, Rufus69 said:

Amigo...I'll just tell you how I feel...

You can replace...Marietta, Westlake, Cedar Grove, Alcovy and Northside with ANY 5 teams you want for this year...and under our current S&C and our current flag football practices...it wouldn't have helped us in any way shape or form playing against Lowndes, Camden or Walton.

It wasn't the schedule.

Now THERE'S you some Gospel...

 

 

Rufus>>

In addition to the practices and S&C you mentioned you could add in basic football knowledge, sideline management and player evaluations. We had guys standing on the sideline that could have helped us. We had guys playing out of position. Carolina was more valuable protecting the edge on defense as DE or OLB than he was catching the ball but we had him on offense as a WR and running in the Wild Hawg. There were 3 other receivers standing on the sideline that could have covered his offensive play. He's just 1 example of player management gone astray.

The thing I hate as much as getting our ass kicked in games that matter is scheduling inferior competition makes the coaching staff look better than they really are. They're fucking terrible as a group and haven't shown they can improve the program from day 1. In fact the further they get away from the kids that were developed in the previous program the further they get away from player development and sound football skills. For me it's fine to have a kickback homecoming opponent but other than that schedule the best you can find. That's another area we've slid on.

Most all my close Packer friends have watched and supported Packer football for decades. In mine and your case 6 plus decades. We've seen bad, good, and excellent. With that much time playing and watching I believe any of us are capable of being expert witnesses on what we saw this year. It breaks my heart to put the program in the bad category right now. There's just too many bad things going on that good coaches avoid.

[Ga96]

6 hours ago, 67packer said:

In addition to the practices and S&C you mentioned you could add in basic football knowledge, sideline management and player evaluations. We had guys standing on the sideline that could have helped us. We had guys playing out of position. Carolina was more valuable protecting the edge on defense as DE or OLB than he was catching the ball but we had him on offense as a WR and running in the Wild Hawg. There were 3 other receivers standing on the sideline that could have covered his offensive play. He's just 1 example of player management gone astray.

The thing I hate as much as getting our ass kicked in games that matter is scheduling inferior competition makes the coaching staff look better than they really are. They're fucking terrible as a group and haven't shown they can improve the program from day 1. In fact the further they get away from the kids that were developed in the previous program the further they get away from player development and sound football skills. For me it's fine to have a kickback homecoming opponent but other than that schedule the best you can find. That's another area we've slid on.

Most all my close Packer friends have watched and supported Packer football for decades. In mine and your case 6 plus decades. We've seen bad, good, and excellent. With that much time playing and watching I believe any of us are capable of being expert witnesses on what we saw this year. It breaks my heart to put the program in the bad category right now. There's just too many bad things going on that good coaches avoid.

Simple things like having a 5 star TE and him not having at least 1k yards receiving and seeing some time at DE. 

I can't for the life of me figure out why moultrie didn't go with 2 TE sets. You get a 5 star and they other TE in seen has the size. Would've took a lot of pressure of a young QB and gave more space for pace. So many options with the players yall had. Nobody in the state game plans to cover the TE.

But you have those idiot ass kisser fans that claim since you aren't on the sideline you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

I have yet to see a coaching degree. 

[Rufus69]

6 hours ago, 67packer said:

In addition to the practices and S&C you mentioned you could add in basic football knowledge, sideline management and player evaluations. We had guys standing on the sideline that could have helped us. We had guys playing out of position. Carolina was more valuable protecting the edge on defense as DE or OLB than he was catching the ball but we had him on offense as a WR and running in the Wild Hawg. There were 3 other receivers standing on the sideline that could have covered his offensive play. He's just 1 example of player management gone astray.

The thing I hate as much as getting our ass kicked in games that matter is scheduling inferior competition makes the coaching staff look better than they really are. They're fucking terrible as a group and haven't shown they can improve the program from day 1. In fact the further they get away from the kids that were developed in the previous program the further they get away from player development and sound football skills. For me it's fine to have a kickback homecoming opponent but other than that schedule the best you can find. That's another area we've slid on.

Most all my close Packer friends have watched and supported Packer football for decades. In mine and your case 6 plus decades. We've seen bad, good, and excellent. With that much time playing and watching I believe any of us are capable of being expert witnesses on what we saw this year. It breaks my heart to put the program in the bad category right now. There's just too many bad things going on that good coaches avoid.

67....I agree with a lot of what you posted.  But I don't agree with you on the scheduling.  I did not have a problem with Colquitt's non-region schedule for 2021.  I'll give you Heritage and to some point Alcovy...but frankly...Marietta, Westlake, Cedar Grove, Valdosta and Northside were not "roody poohs".  Add to that...if I learned anything about schedules...I learned it back in 2003-2009 when Camden was in the old Region 3 with the Savannah schools.  They beat everybody by 30+ points but all the gurus said...THEY DON'T PLAY ANYBODY.  But if you remember...it didn't matter.  They were GOOD.  They won (3) State Championships during that period that they didn't play anybody.

One of the problems as I see it....we hafta schedule SEVEN non-region games.  We hafta schedule those games and still have some reasonable control over travel costs.  I would rather play decent teams...no matter the classification...than to travel every other week to play AAAAAAA competition.  Of course...that's just me trying to work the budget.  Others probably think we have the same amount of pesos we have always had.  And that is simply not so.

The truth is...we weren't that good this year.  Add to that...we weren't coached up that well this year.  Some might say...not at all.  And one last thing that I think also hit us hard in 2021....we lost more than a couple BIG REVENUE guys...for whatever reason one wants to believe.  Successful programs run on MONEY.  Lots and Lots of money.  I agree that the product we put on the field wasn't Packer Football.  Honestly, it wasn't close.  I also think there was a myriad of reasons why it wasn't.  But I wanna be very clear with my next comment....I do not blame the Packer Touchdown Club President.  I'm not asking for a recall.  I think we should renew his contract for the foreseeable future.   I have made the statement...and maybe I shouldn't repeat it...but I'm afraid 2022 Packer football might be as bad as 2007 Packer football.  No matter WHO is the HC.  Buddha...I hope I'm wrong.

 

 

Rufus>>

[HawgGoneIt]

Marietta, Westlake, Valdosta and our region schedule were the only teams that belonged on the field  with us as bad as we were. Lol 

Cedar Grove is a talented squad without enough depth or roster thus didnt belong.

Northside, Alcovy, Heritage, we could have picked one of any of them for homecoming and the other two are travel games anyway. Say we took Northside for homecoming and had a home and home deal with any other two Atlanta schools in 7A 

Now we're cooking some.

If we want to generate hype that keeps talented kids interested in playing here, which clearly this staff fucking needs more talent than they have or had so far, then you better get some Cardinal Gibbons, Hoover or some marquee something on there. This creates the hype that gets the asses in the seats and keeps your talent you have home, and the talent in your hallways wanting to be on the team. Thomasville has 109 kids on their sideline. We are 3 times the size they are and had 70.

We've been shown the way and are too fucking stupid to maintain it. Kids are leaving. Asses are not in the stands. More kids are talking about leaving. Etc. Its a snowball the wrong direction when it could be a snowball the right direction. 

The entire athletic dept. is going to suffer due to stupidity of the staff and administration. 

 

[67packer]

3 hours ago, Rufus69 said:

67....I agree with a lot of what you posted.  But I don't agree with you on the scheduling.  I did not have a problem with Colquitt's non-region schedule for 2021.  I'll give you Heritage and to some point Alcovy...but frankly...Marietta, Westlake, Cedar Grove, Valdosta and Northside were not "roody poohs".  Add to that...if I learned anything about schedules...I learned it back in 2003-2009 when Camden was in the old Region 3 with the Savannah schools.  They beat everybody by 30+ points but all the gurus said...THEY DON'T PLAY ANYBODY.  But if you remember...it didn't matter.  They were GOOD.  They won (3) State Championships during that period that they didn't play anybody.

One of the problems as I see it....we hafta schedule SEVEN non-region games.  We hafta schedule those games and still have some reasonable control over travel costs.  I would rather play decent teams...no matter the classification...than to travel every other week to play AAAAAAA competition.  Of course...that's just me trying to work the budget.  Others probably think we have the same amount of pesos we have always had.  And that is simply not so.

The truth is...we weren't that good this year.  Add to that...we weren't coached up that well this year.  Some might say...not at all.  And one last thing that I think also hit us hard in 2021....we lost more than a couple BIG REVENUE guys...for whatever reason one wants to believe.  Successful programs run on MONEY.  Lots and Lots of money.  I agree that the product we put on the field wasn't Packer Football.  Honestly, it wasn't close.  I also think there was a myriad of reasons why it wasn't.  But I wanna be very clear with my next comment....I do not blame the Packer Touchdown Club President.  I'm not asking for a recall.  I think we should renew his contract for the foreseeable future.   I have made the statement...and maybe I shouldn't repeat it...but I'm afraid 2022 Packer football might be as bad as 2007 Packer football.  No matter WHO is the HC.  Buddha...I hope I'm wrong.

 

 

Rufus>>

You can't argue with the Gospel.

[67packer]

1 hour ago, HawgGoneIt said:

Marietta, Westlake, Valdosta and our region schedule were the only teams that belonged on the field  with us as bad as we were. Lol 

Cedar Grove is a talented squad without enough depth or roster thus didnt belong.

Northside, Alcovy, Heritage, we could have picked one of any of them for homecoming and the other two are travel games anyway. Say we took Northside for homecoming and had a home and home deal with any other two Atlanta schools in 7A 

Now we're cooking some.

If we want to generate hype that keeps talented kids interested in playing here, which clearly this staff fucking needs more talent than they have or had so far, then you better get some Cardinal Gibbons, Hoover or some marquee something on there. This creates the hype that gets the asses in the seats and keeps your talent you have home, and the talent in your hallways wanting to be on the team. Thomasville has 109 kids on their sideline. We are 3 times the size they are and had 70.

We've been shown the way and are too fucking stupid to maintain it. Kids are leaving. Asses are not in the stands. More kids are talking about leaving. Etc. Its a snowball the wrong direction when it could ve a snowball the right direction. 

The entire athletic dept. is going to suffer due to stupidity of the staff and administration. 

 

You got permission to spread the Gospel?

[67packer]

3 hours ago, Ga96 said:

Simple things like having a 5 star TE and him not having at least 1k yards receiving and seeing some time at DE. 

I can't for the life of me figure out why moultrie didn't go with 2 TE sets. You get a 5 star and they other TE in seen has the size. Would've took a lot of pressure of a young QB and gave more space for pace. So many options with the players yall had. Nobody in the state game plans to cover the TE.

But you have those idiot ass kisser fans that claim since you aren't on the sideline you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

I have yet to see a coaching degree. 

We sure didn't use that big TE a lot. We've also got to find a way to get our jr backup QB this past year more involved. He's too good of athlete to just be an observer watching from the sideline his Jr and Sr year. In fact, I don't think he'll hang around and spend his Sr year on the sideline and he's just 1 of many on the sideline mostly watching this year that could have really helped us.

Someone also needs to be walking those halls at Jr High and Sr High trying to convince some of those big heavies why they should be playing football. 

[HawgGoneIt]

10 minutes ago, 67packer said:

We sure didn't use that big TE a lot. We've also got to find a way to get our jr backup QB this past year more involved. He's too good of athlete to just be an observer watching from the sideline his Jr and Sr year. In fact, I don't think he'll hang around and spend his Sr year on the sideline and he's just 1 of many on the sideline mostly watching this year that could have really helped us.

Someone also needs to be walking those halls at Jr High and Sr High trying to convince some of those big heavies why they should be playing football. 

The kids wont play. Its a lot of risk for to help a coach make 100k and they might get a half assed offer from a NAIA or whatever that isnt worth a shit to their family's pocket book. 

Gotta get some hype and some serious looks from some recruiters if we want the big kids and talented kids to give up a big chunk of their social lives and health. It's not even clear that this staff calls any colleges at all and talks up their kids. They tweet or retweet the occasional tweet though. When asked about why they arent tweeting about every kid that starts a parent was told that the recruiters arent looking for 2 bedroom houses they're after the mansions but, they have to see the 2 bedroom houses when they're here to look at the mansions. Hahaha. 

Justin, the admin or both, wanted to reduce the "show" and play instate "powers" and now he reaps what he/they sowed. 

 

 

 

[HawgGoneIt]

Legit these people were so enamored with ripping any and everything Rush out of the program that they totally forgot what worked if they ever realized what worked, that's not really clear either. 

/EndRant

[Ga96]

6 hours ago, Rufus69 said:

67....I agree with a lot of what you posted.  But I don't agree with you on the scheduling.  I did not have a problem with Colquitt's non-region schedule for 2021.  I'll give you Heritage and to some point Alcovy...but frankly...Marietta, Westlake, Cedar Grove, Valdosta and Northside were not "roody poohs".  Add to that...if I learned anything about schedules...I learned it back in 2003-2009 when Camden was in the old Region 3 with the Savannah schools.  They beat everybody by 30+ points but all the gurus said...THEY DON'T PLAY ANYBODY.  But if you remember...it didn't matter.  They were GOOD.  They won (3) State Championships during that period that they didn't play anybody.

One of the problems as I see it....we hafta schedule SEVEN non-region games.  We hafta schedule those games and still have some reasonable control over travel costs.  I would rather play decent teams...no matter the classification...than to travel every other week to play AAAAAAA competition.  Of course...that's just me trying to work the budget.  Others probably think we have the same amount of pesos we have always had.  And that is simply not so.

The truth is...we weren't that good this year.  Add to that...we weren't coached up that well this year.  Some might say...not at all.  And one last thing that I think also hit us hard in 2021....we lost more than a couple BIG REVENUE guys...for whatever reason one wants to believe.  Successful programs run on MONEY.  Lots and Lots of money.  I agree that the product we put on the field wasn't Packer Football.  Honestly, it wasn't close.  I also think there was a myriad of reasons why it wasn't.  But I wanna be very clear with my next comment....I do not blame the Packer Touchdown Club President.  I'm not asking for a recall.  I think we should renew his contract for the foreseeable future.   I have made the statement...and maybe I shouldn't repeat it...but I'm afraid 2022 Packer football might be as bad as 2007 Packer football.  No matter WHO is the HC.  Buddha...I hope I'm wrong.

 

 

Rufus>>

Have to disagree with northside. They got blew out by every team with a pulse on offense.

[Ga96]

2 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said:

The kids wont play. Its a lot of risk for to help a coach make 100k and they might get a half assed offer from a NAIA or whatever that isnt worth a shit to their family's pocket book. 

Gotta get some hype and some serious looks from some recruiters if we want the big kids and talented kids to give up a big chunk of their social lives and health. It's not even clear that this staff calls any colleges at all and talks up their kids. They tweet or retweet the occasional tweet though. When asked about why they arent tweeting about every kid that starts a parent was told that the recruiters arent looking for 2 bedroom houses they're after the mansions but, they have to see the 2 bedroom houses when they're here to look at the mansions. Hahaha. 

Justin, the admin or both, wanted to reduce the "show" and play instate "powers" and now he reaps what he/they sowed. 

 

 

 

have to admit the lowndes coaches promote all the kids even those who have no chance at the next level. They're still talking up our back up QB from this year and his ceiling is that of a 9th grade QB.

He is a great baseball player though.

[Ga96]

2 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said:

Legit these people were so enamored with ripping any and everything Rush out of the program that they totally forgot what worked if they ever realized what worked, that's bot really clear either. 

/EndRant

adults with the maturity of kids that's why. They are in every program but its worse when they are the one making decisions or a booster.