Troll Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, DBP66 said: sorry that you came late to the party and you haven't earned your trophy yet....but you're on my radar!...6 more posts and you'll pass Ironman for 3rd place here!....keep up the good work!...your goofyness was missed....🤡 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Troll said: 5 more posts!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 Just now, DBP66 said: 5 more posts!! Still going.....LOLOL carry on then... PS: BTW: have you recovered from all those gotcha faceplants yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Troll said: Still going.....LOLOL carry on then... PS: BTW: have you recovered from all those gotcha faceplants yet? I see that your love of the crazy man seems to have grown with the more trouble he gets into?...so how many contributions have you made to help your hero out with his legal defense fund?...you know he's innocent of all charges...because he said so!...🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 minute ago, DBP66 said: I see that your love of the crazy man seems to have grown with the more trouble he gets into?...so how many contributions have you made to help your hero out with his legal defense fund?...you know he's innocent of all charges...because he said so!...🤡 Getting a little carried away with your painting...no ? Hero ? LOL Quick question....what "super duper top secret info" is NOT supposed to be available, to the POTUS ? just curious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Troll said: Getting a little carried away with your painting...no ? Hero ? LOL Quick question....what "super duper top secret info" is NOT supposed to be available, to the POTUS ? just curious... fyi...he's not the Pres. anymore...."available"?!?...LOL..why?...it's not his...despite him being quoted as saying "it's mine"...why did his lawyer say in a written statement to the D.O.J. in June that all info. was returned when it wasn't??...why did Trump lie in June??...why did he steal info. about the Pres. of France? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, DBP66 said: fyi...he's not the Pres. anymore...."available"?!?...LOL..why?...it's not his...despite him being quoted as saying "it's mine"...why did his lawyer say in a written statement to the D.O.J. in June saying all info. was returned when it wasn't...why did Trump lie in June??...why did he steal info. about the Pres. of France? not sure what kind of jibberish you are trying to speak, but the question is/was WHAT (KIND OF to be clearer) info is a POTUS NOT supposed to have ? Not who is POTUS, or how does a POTUS "STEAL" info that he already is privy to... Sooooo,,,,,,,President of France huh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 he's a private citizen so the answer is classified info...why did he lie about files he stole? Why info. on the Pres. of France is the question Spock....blackmail seems logical...😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, DBP66 said: he's a private citizen so the answer is classified info... Classified ? What info is classified from the president ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Troll said: Classified ? What info is classified from the president ? he's NOT the Pres....as much as that hurts you....🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 37 minutes ago, DBP66 said: he's NOT the Pres....as much as that hurts you....🤡 That's NOT the "question".... . ...and when you have no answer, then you have no answer LOL PS: You could always try mumbling something about a rabbit hole... ...and running 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Troll said: That's not the "question".... . ...and when you have no answer, then you have no answer LOL PS: You could always try mumbling something about a rabbit hole... ...and running it's the "answer"...and have a good time in your rabbit hole....you seem very confused once again..too much Trump Kool-Aid tonight?...fyi,,,he's a private citizen...NOT the Pres. so he can't have access to the files that he had in his possession...and lied to the DOJ about having them.....hope this helps you Spock...you need it!! maybe you could think of why he lied in June about having them while in your rabbit hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 4 hours ago, DBP66 said: it's the "answer"...and have a good time in your rabbit hole.... 4 hours ago, DBP66 said: why he lied ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 4 hours ago, DBP66 said: maybe you could think of why he lied in June about having them while in your rabbit hole? here's a late night rabbit hole for you...LOL You read the WSJ... and they don't traffic in conspiracy. Plandemic confirmed ? https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-white-house-prepared-for-a-pandemic-11597792593?mod=opinion_lead_pos5 PS: "On Sept. 19, a few days after the CEA issued its report, the president signed Executive Order 13887"..... ... BTW: Who rules by executive order ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 Trump appears to concede he illegally retained official documents in filing Hugo Lowell in Washington DC Wed, August 24, 2022 at 2:00 AM Photograph: Carlos Barría/Reuters Donald Trump appeared to concede in his court filing surrounding the seizure of materials from his Florida resort that he unlawfully retained official government documents, as the former president argued that some of the documents collected by the FBI could be subject to executive privilege. Related: FBI searched Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home for classified nuclear weapons documents – report The motion submitted on Monday by the former president’s lawyers argued that a court should appoint a so-called special master to separate out and determine what materials the justice department can review as evidence due to privilege issues. But the argument from Trump that some of the documents are subject to executive privilege protections indicates that those documents are official records that he is not authorized to keep and should have turned over to the National Archives at the end of the administration. The motion, in that regard, appeared to concede that Trump violated one of the criminal statutes listed on the warrant used by the FBI to search the former president’s Mar-a-Lago resort – 18 USC 2071 – concerning the unlawful removal of government records. “If he’s acknowledging that he’s in possession of documents that would have any colorable claim of executive privilege, those are by definition presidential records and belong at the National Archives,” said Asha Rangappa, a former FBI agent and former associate dean at Yale Law School. “And so it’s not clear that executive privilege would even be relevant to the particular crime he’s being investigated for and yet in this filing, he basically admits that he is in possession of them, which is what the government is trying to establish,” Rangappa said. Trump remains able to make the case that a special master should be appointed to review the seized documents, seek a more detailed receipt for what the FBI retrieved from Mar-a-Lago and restrain the justice department from further reviewing the materials until the process is complete. The reasoning, former US attorneys say, is that there could be communications seized by the FBI that are privileged, but not used in furtherance of a crime, and even if the justice department wanted to use them in its investigation, it should be precluded from doing so. A person directly involved in Trump’s legal defense noted – repeating parts in the filing – that the Presidential Records Act had no enforcement mechanism, even as they conceded that the justice department might pursue the privilege argument as a tacit admission. Potential obstruction But Trump’s motion could throw up additional challenges for the former president, with additional passages in the filing laying out a months-long battle by the justice department to recover certain records in a pattern of interactions that could be construed as obstruction of justice. The search warrant for Mar-a-Lago listed obstruction for the statutes potentially violated, though it was not clear whether that was obstruction of the investigation into the very retrieval of government documents from Mar-a-Lago or for another, separate investigation. Yet the section in Trump’s motion titled “President Donald J Trump’s Voluntary Assistance” detailed the multiple steps the justice department took to initially retrieve 15 boxes in January, additional materials in June, and then 26 boxes when the FBI conducted its search. The filing discussed how Trump returned the 15 boxes to the National Archives, and then – one day after the National Archives told Trump’s lawyers that those boxes contained classified documents – “accepted service of a grand jury subpoena” for additional documents with classification markings. But despite taking custody of documents responsive to the subpoena, the justice department learned there may have been additional documents marked as classified, and issued a subpoena on 22 June demanding security camera footage of the hallway outside where the materials were being stored. That subpoena for security tapes, as well as a subsequent subpoena for CCTV footage of that area from just before the FBI search on 8 August, suggests the justice department did not think Trump was being entirely truthful or forthcoming in his interactions with the investigation. Those suspicions were well-founded: when the government retrieved materials from Mar-a-Lago on that second collection in June, Trump’s custodian of records attested they had given back documents responsive to the subpoena – only for the FBI to retrieve more boxes of classified materials. Separately, apart from late filing of the motion two weeks after the FBI search took place, the brief itself appears to be procedurally problematic. The motion was not filed in West Palm Beach, Florida, where the warrant was approved. Instead, it was filed in Ft Pierce, where the judge has no knowledge of the underlying affidavit – and could rule in such a way to reveal to Trump if he or his lawyers are suspects for obstruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 hours ago, DBP66 said: Trump appears to concede sinced he conceded, you can go home now... LOL Everything is as it appears. PS: did you read that plandemic executive order? Planned no? BTW : How you making out with all that collusion stuff.... and how about all those bank records you like to brag about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Troll said: sinced he conceded, you can go home now... LOL Everything is as it appears. PS: did you read that plandemic executive order? Planned no? BTW : How you making out with all that collusion stuff.... and how about all those bank records you like to brag about? not going down the pandemic rabbit hole today....sorry...too busy keeping up with Trump's lies at the moment....😉 I see you passed Ironman for # 3 on this topic!...Congrats! and thanks for your participation!....🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 I needed a break from scrolling down your page long cut and past articles from such trustworthy sources 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: I needed a break from scrolling down your page long cut and past articles from such trustworthy sources 😂 so it looks like "it's on" now for third place in this thread!....good luck!...I'll try and find some Fox news B.S. to keep you happy...😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 53 minutes ago, DBP66 said: so it looks like "it's on" now for third place in this thread!....good luck!...I'll try and find some Fox news B.S. to keep you happy...😉 Thanks miss ya buddy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 hours ago, DBP66 said: I see you passed Ironman for # 3 on this topic!...Congrats! and thanks for your participation!....🤡 PS: No competition... you got this one in the bag. LOL BTW: thoughts ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 5:08 PM, DBP66 said: LOL...I'm obsessed and you clowns deny reality....Trump did no wrong once again....it's the media's fault!...🤡 What part of "the POTUS can declassify anything he wants" don't you understand? The POTUS has the final say about classifying documents. And, since he left the White House a couple of days before his term was over (first term, mind you), then he could have declassified anything he wanted to. And, yes there is a procedure for that, but, according to the lawyers I've listened to, those procedures are for anyone who is NOT the POTUS. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Slotback Right said: What part of "the POTUS can declassify anything he wants" don't you understand? The POTUS has the final say about classifying documents. And, since he left the White House a couple of days before his term was over (first term, mind you), then he could have declassified anything he wanted to. And, yes there is a procedure for that, but, according to the lawyers I've listened to, those procedures are for anyone who is NOT the POTUS. you (and Ironman) need to do some more homework...the Pres. can't do whatever he wants...despite what Trump tells you...stop believing a certified liar...he stole classified/top secret info. and when asked to give it back he didn't...in fact he LIED again and said he did return it all in June...wonk...wonk...then they find 16 more boxes in August?!?,,,why did he lie??...Trump is a f*in thief, and he stole info. that belongs to the American people...open and closed case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 Here you go Ironman.... Former Fox News editor claims viewers have been 'deceived' and 'coddled' over the years Stephen Proctor Thu, August 25, 2022 at 3:58 AM Former Fox News politics editor, Chris Stirewalt, joined CNN Tonight on Wednesday, where he spoke about being let go from Fox in January 2021 following outrage from viewers after he called the state of Arizona for President Joe Biden in the 2020 election. While Stirewalt didn’t blame Fox for letting him go, he did say that the network has not served its viewers well. “I observed in these viewers and these folks, that they had been so deceived, and they had been so flattered, and they had been so coddled over the years,” Stirewalt said, “that when the ice cream dish was taken away, and me, Mr. green beans is put in front of them, and I said, ‘Well, too bad, Donald Trump is not gonna get reelected,’ they were not ready for that.” Stirewalt, who spent 10 years at Fox, said he believes journalists have an obligation to the people of the United States. “As American journalists, we have an obligation to our country… If we love our country, and we love our fellow countrymen and countrywomen,” Stirewalt said, “what we have to do is make sure that the work that we’re doing is in service of, and not destructive to, those ambitions.” Stirewalt has recently been outspoken about the narratives pushed by his former employer, and believes it’s a disservice to those who have given their lives for this country. “When we use fear, and when we use hate, and when we use anger, and when we use paranoia to keep ratings high and keep people attached,” Stirewalt said, “then we are not living up to — I mean, I think about this all the time. A million American men and women died to preserve, protect and defend this country and our Constitution.” But Stirewalt claimed the network, along with others, are just giving viewers what they want. “And then as news consumers, let’s not kid ourselves,” Stirewalt said, “this isn’t a supply side problem, this is a demand side, right?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, DBP66 said: do some more homework...the Pres. can't do whatever he wants...despite what Trump tells you... ...open and closed case. 1 hour ago, Slotback Right said: What part of "the POTUS can declassify anything he wants" don't you understand? I think he has no clue of the difference between person and position... LOL PS: or the difference between precedent... ...and president Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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