Ararar Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 These games have gotten worse as the years have gone by. if Texas and California could ever join in it could be something special with Florida,GA and MD/DC. what kind of packed house would a double header of MD-Westlake Duncanville-STA bring in Texas? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 10 hours ago, old_e said: What happened to SFA? They would have been a good matchup with CH. Why does SFA get any run? They played 9 games and lost to the one of the only two truly good teams on their schedule in STA. SFA should not be ranked nearly as high as they are. And the Geico games are trash. Chaminade Madonna is not a very good team offensively. If that team from AZ has a sophisticated passing game, they can stay in the game or win. CM's defense is sick, but their offense is average. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTerrapin Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Tom Collins Hill vs Gram-Kungpowshrimp I like the match-up , hell I might even watch it. Two actual homegrown state champions that's what I am talking about. yeah I know about the WPB kid but he is a legit move in so it's cool. I would be more skeptical if he went from WPB to Grayson that's for sure. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, OldTerrapin said: Tom Collins Hill vs Gram-Kungpowshrimp I like the match-up , hell I might even watch it. Two actual homegrown state champions that's what I am talking about. yeah I know about the WPB kid but he is a legit move in so it's cool. I would be more skeptical if he went from WPB to Grayson that's for sure. I love the matchup but it’s supposed to set up games that can decide a national championship. I don’t think anyone believes that these teams are the best in the country. Although Collins Hill looks pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTerrapin Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, 181pl said: I love the matchup but it’s supposed to set up games that can decide a national championship. Who ever said that? GEICO hasn't.. just supposed to be a showcase of state champions vs each other. Besides there is no such thing as a High School National Champion. It's some made up shit websites and bloggers came up with to sell clicks and adds. You know to make money off these kids and whacky fan boys. They are just Bowl games nothing more The State Champions Bowl Series allows high school football champions from different states to play against each other in post-season bowl games televised on ESPNU POSITION STATEMENT ON NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS The NFHS does not support, nor sanction, national school team competition that leads to a champion that may be perceived by the media and others to be a national champion in an athletic event. The NFHS recognizes that entrepreneurs, for-profit corporations, and others may choose to invite schools and/ or individual athletes to participate in competition which may include representatives from a number of different states. Whether or not the NFHS sanctioning policy may apply to such events, the NFHS suggests that invited schools and athletes exercise due diligence before choosing to participate. The NFHS endorses and supports tournaments promulgated by member state associations which provide a culminating activity for student-athletes in sports sponsored by individual state high school athletic and activity associations 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 These teams are playing for national recognition. Does the Georgia state champion gain anything by beating a Washington state champion? It’s cool for the kids because they get to travel. But these games should mean something more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 I personally would rather see these games be played in the regular season and have the top teams go at it. The state associations each get $50,000 plus the money it cost to get all these teams to Vegas. That’s a shit ton of money. They can make some marquee matchups that everyone wants to see. Powerhouse teams who don’t win state are sometimes better teams and much better draws for TV than champs from Washington, Utah or Arizona. I would rather see Collins Hill vs Westlake TX on week 1 than Collins Hill vs Kapowow Washington on week 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTerrapin Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 More from this guy.. 🤡 lol I know one thing we better see Mater Dei on Tom Collins Hill schedule next year.. Mater Dei always needs some games.. Dude has the top player in the country fall in his lap now he wants to talk shit.. classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 hours ago, OldTerrapin said: Tom Collins Hill vs Gram-Kungpowshrimp I like the match-up , hell I might even watch it. Two actual homegrown state champions that's what I am talking about. yeah I know about the WPB kid but he is a legit move in so it's cool. I would be more skeptical if he went from WPB to Grayson that's for sure. Haha, I'm not exactly sure about the two teams you mention here. But, I actually am cautiously optimistic about this being a good matchup. I'm sometimes a sucker for teams that blow through their competition. These two teams have both done that and so seeing them clash will be of interest. If those more familiar with (not Tom) Collins Hill are correct and they are overrated, then I think the school from Washington may win the game. Let's face it, teams from western states not named California have won many-far more than expected, anyway- impressive OOS games vs. teams from power states. Examples: - STA winning competitive games vs. Bingham (it really was competitive if you consider the full game objectively) and St. Louis while getting shut out by a team from Peoria, AZ. - Bishop Gorman's many wins and good showings - Miami Northwestern getting blown out by Chandler - Bellevue blowing out DLS to end the streak - Bingham traveling to south Florida and playing unbeaten state champ Miami BTW close There could be more I'm forgetting. It seems likely teams from those states tend to be undersold and underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, OldTerrapin said: More from this guy.. 🤡 lol I know one thing we better see Mater Dei on Tom Collins Hill schedule next year.. Mater Dei always needs some games.. Dude has the top player in the country fall in his lap now he wants to talk shit.. classic Just think this team wouldn’t even of made the playoffs if there was shit to do in West Palm Beach. 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTerrapin Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Just think this team wouldn’t even of made the playoffs if there was shit to do in West Palm Beach. 😂 right just think if Ole Granny gave him a surfboard for his 8th birthday. 🏄♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, badrouter said: - STA winning competitive games vs. Bingham (it really was competitive if you consider the full game objectively) and St. Louis while getting shut out by a team from Peoria, AZ. Man, your ability to be as misleading as humanly possible is really something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan in daytona Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, 181pl said: Why does SFA get any run? They played 9 games and lost to the one of the only two truly good teams on their schedule in STA. SFA should not be ranked nearly as high as they are. And the Geico games are trash. Chaminade Madonna is not a very good team offensively. If that team from AZ has a sophisticated passing game, they can stay in the game or win. CM's defense is sick, but their offense is average. I too wasn't impressed with CM's offense in the 3A title matchup (21-0 0ver Berkeley Prep-Tampa). The soph QB looks athletic, but needs aging. Their "D" is loaded with D-1's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Man, your ability to be as misleading as humanly possible is really something. The Bingham game offered the illusion of a blowout because the score was lopsided for most of the game. But, at 13-0, Bingham was at the STA 1 yard-line and there was the fumble which was scooped up and taken 99 yards for a TD the other way. 14 point play. STA won by 8 points. Bingham had more yards in the second half than STA had all game. Bottom line is, that was a competitive game when most of us assumed it would be a laugher. St. Louis was competitive as well. Solid margin for STA, but not a laugher of a game, either. A shutout is when you score zero points. That's the total for STA vs. Centennial. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, badrouter said: The Bingham game offered the illusion of a blowout because the score was lopsided for most of the game. But, at 13-0, Bingham was at the STA 1 yard-line and there was the fumble which was scooped up and taken 99 yards for a TD the other way. 14 point play. STA won by 8 points. Bingham had more yards in the second half than STA had all game. Bottom line is, that was a competitive game when most of us assumed it would be a laugher. It was 30-0 one play into the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, badrouter said: St. Louis was competitive as well. Solid margin for STA, but not a laugher of a game, either. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, badrouter said: A shutout is when you score zero points. That's the total for STA vs. Centennial. Your dishonesty is in claiming that certain schools were seeming underdogs who were against it and played close games. The Bingham game was not close but regardless they were an undefeated (14-0) state champion who had competed in national games before. St. Louis was also an undefeated (12-0) state champion who had competed in national games before. Bishop Gorman is a national program and doesn't qualify. Bellevue beat a bad DLS team that had 3 losses to 2 ties. Chandler was playing in their home state and was favored by double digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Highland is going to make those other western teams look like the 1967 Green Bay Packers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 The fact that so few states care about this event is pretty telling.....this might be the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTerrapin Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Highland is going to make those other western teams look like the 1967 Green Bay Packers. What chu talkin bout fool.. looks like some ballers to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, OldTerrapin said: What chu talkin bout fool.. looks like some ballers to me Deerfield Beach looked good getting off the bus against St Joes Regional, then reality kicked in. Same when Bergen came down to play Grayson. Grayson looked like national champs in shirts and shorts. Don’t count Highland out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTerrapin Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, RedZone said: The fact that so few states care about this event is pretty telling.....this might be the last year. It's in their (State Athletic Association) by laws and rules with spelled out sports seasons and dates. Being most of them are state funded it would take two years to even do the research, prove it would be a benefit to all students some how, get enough people on board to even present the change and get it voted in. Simply not happening in most states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, RedZone said: The fact that so few states care about this event is pretty telling.....this might be the last year. It's not going anywhere. You routinely misread things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 40 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Deerfield Beach looked good getting off the bus against St Joes Regional, then reality kicked in. Same when Bergen came down to play Grayson. Grayson looked like national champs in shirts and shorts. Don’t count Highland out yet. Comparing any of those 4 schools to Highland is comical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: It's not going anywhere. You routinely misread things. It's not getting any larger and not taking off like they thought it would. You routinely disregard the inevitable. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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